[loverstilly]

I've been at NBE for years now. Roughly 3 years.

I've tried PM and fenugreek and vitex and maca and milk thistle, bought noogleberry and several types of breast creams. Listened to hypnosis and ringtones. Changed my bras to a correct size - 28D. Nothing worked so far, at least not with the combinations I use them.

PM days 1-14 gave me nice period swellings. But that's what they were. Swelling, not growth.
Currently I am on PM day 7 - 21 + Vitex, and it broke me out big time, hormonal acne on jawline and cheekbones, gave me a bloated belly and I don't think I ovulated. My period was almost black, or orange (blood + discharge?). Not STDs cus I'm not sexually active ATM. No swellings whatsoever for the past 2 months. I'm gonna stop it right now.

I'm darn darn tired of screwing up my system and not getting results. If I had any results in the past 3 years it would really keep me going and trying. But I really really really want bigger breasts. I know NBE works because it has worked for so many women and men. Bonita, Jenniferlove, doll, Ceci, Tibetan, etc etc. I really want to find something that would work for me. But tonight, I'm tired.

I am so self conscious of my breasts whenever I look into the mirror. I remember a male friend of mine said he couldn't get it up when he was trying to sleep with a really flat woman. I felt so self conscious.

Tonight I'm so tired of all this s***. Perhaps tomorrow I will wake up with new motivation. But tonight I just want to give up and go to bed.

So sorry for the rant though. Just needed to let it out.

[peggy]

Girl, I have seen your photos in your picture thread and let me tell you that your breasts are beautiful. I would be thrilled if I had your size. They have a lovely shape and your breasts are definitely not small!

You have grown 1-2'' which is not bad. Don't give up! Maybe you haven't found the right program yet. Keep trying, keep smiling.

PS: That male friend is a dick!

[HeroinFox]

Sorry, you're struggling. sounds like you may be estrogen dominant. Maybe you should try progesterone cream. or you could buy all the ingredient they put in Bountiful Breasts. cost is approx. $30 a month if you buy swansons brand ingredients.

definitely let your hormones level out before/if you decide on a new program.

ps. once I took PM out of my program, I'm starting to see results.

Good luck and hope you find a better program.
sending you big boobie vibes.

[dddreams]

You poor thing.
Well, first of all, I totally agree that you should not mess with your body anymore by taking herbs that cause these side effects. The stuff you describe does not sound nice and does not sound worth it for a little bit of growth.

Secondly though, I have seen your pictures and you are NOT flat chested. You have a lovely shape. That guy sounds like a total and utter dick. Anyone who says stuff like that is deeply insecure and he probably wishes that any woman at all would give him the time of day (also he is probably not good in bed). Do not in any way listen to him or let this make you feel inadequate. The fact that he said stuff like that shows that he treats women like objects and to be honest, you want to stay as far away from people like that as possible.

I think the issue is your self-confidence. If you work on making yourself happier, you will find that you are good enough as you are already. Don't keep searching for that magical herbal solution. Some girls go on the pill and gain like 4 cup sizes. For others it has no effect whatsoever. Everyone is different.

Maybe keep up the massage though and give yourself a bit of a break. Agh, still pissed off about what that guy said! Good luck to you.

[Lunice]

Wow, just wow...
I cry almost every night because I can't even fill an A cup and you think you are flat? :'(
Now I feel even worse...
Maybe you need to restart your metabolism or something and try ove again?3 years of all that 'drug' is a lot for the body.

[dddreams]

Lunice, you shouldn't be crying every night because of how you look
You have not posted any pictures but I bet you do not look as bad as you think. You will focus on the bad but other people will focus on the good.

It's never a good idea to compare yourself to other people. On here, I think some people get into the competitiveness of the NBE experience. Yes, there are people on here who have increased their bust size a lot but they are not the norm. You could end up even more despondent if you keep judging yourself against the few success stories that there are.

At the same time, simply because you have a smaller chest than Loverstilly does not mean that she does not have a right to be upset about hers. Of course she does and the reason she does feel like that is probably assholes like the guy she mentioned and the media and society generally with their unrealistic expectations of female beauty. The thing is that you are both beautiful whether you have small boobs or not.

Please think carefully about messing with potent herbs and potentially screwing up your hormones. It is unlikely to have a significant effect on breast size but it could leave you with problems with your periods, potential infertility, depression, weight gain and possibly cancer if you are predisposed to the type of cancer that feeds off hormones. Try something like massage or suctioning instead. I don't think Loverstilly should try again. She has taken these things for 3 years, limited effect and it has by the sounds of it caused her some major issues.

[Lunice]

Yeah, I didn't mean anything bad to her, just that guy ughhh.
I know but people keep insulting me without noticing and I just pretend I didn't hear anything unti I go to bed and all that just crashes at me and I start to cry...
If I was somewhere else it wouldn't be so bad, but here I feel like a...well, like a bumless girl in Brasil, you know what I mean. xD
Thanks. :-)

[dddreams]

I do know how you feel. If you are a sensitive person, it's easy to think that hurtful remarks are directed at you. But often people just say stuff without thinking and it's not necessarily about you. You must have loads of good qualities beyond your boobs. Maybe try to think about some of those as well. If NBE works, that's great but it's good to have a back-up plan so that you will be OK even if it doesn't and so that you will not feel like you failed if it doesn't.
Also, take a look at some of the people/guys saying bad stuff about flat chested women. Do they look like Brad Pitt/Channing Tatum/Whoever? Do flocks of girls throw themselves at their feet? Probably not. In fact, they are probably as insecure about themselves as you are.
Actually men have one issue that we don't really have as girls. That is height. For a short guy, I imagine that dating is pretty tough and it still seems to be socially acceptable to base choosing a partner on their height. It would be quite rare for a guy (unless he was an utter moron) to openly say "oh, I will only date women with a C cup or above" but I often hear women turning guys down because of their height. So I think being a small-breasted woman is easier than being a short guy.

[Lunice]

Yeah,you are right...of course it's somehow in our nature to look for a guy who's taller that us, but if he's a sweet person I'll go over it.
I was never a sensitive person until last year when I changed overnight and finally started acting like a girl. o.O I am still not that sensitive but I feel that I am desperate for love, but I don't want a bf until early twenties.
I even started to read books, can't recognise my self haha.That's why I am in this crisis, imagine you find out overnight that you are an adult and you're stuck looking like a child...I missed so much acting like a child for so long.

[loverstilly]

Hi ladies, just got back from school and am feeling better already. Thank you peggy and natty tooty and dddreams! Yes I think I will give my body a rest and I might drink a tea called Female Toner by Traditional Medicinal. Supposed to balance out hormones. It has great reviews.

And Lunice, I'm sorry to hear about that! I really hope you get what you want too, and you find a miracle way to increase your breasts. Yeah I think sometimes it is a relative thing. I see girls on this forum already with super perky and nice breasts, like F cup I think? And they're still trying to increase their breast size. Sometimes I feel annoyed, since they're already so blessed. You must feel that way somehow.

Just a clarification: the guy was sleeping with some OTHER woman, whom he describes as flat chested. I look into the mirror and feel flat, and think of what he said, and feel self conscious.

Another MORE asshole guy, on the other hand, said to my face, "oh why would cute guys even like you, your boobs so small. they prefer girls with bigger boobs." Like seriously. Can't get any more ungentlemanly.

But yeah, they all sound like HUGE jerks.