[EllaC]

ELLA That hub of urs needs to appreciate those trout lips
And as for lotus =NBL . BTL would put gals off
Love the fish though

IT ARRIVED!! Yay.
ONLY thing is you are meant to put it on before bed and its first thing in the morning *grumbles*

You have gorgeous lips Ella! But why do you guys call her lips Trout Mouth? Is that like the same as duck mouth? I get a fish when i google it Silly hubbies you dont have fish lips and please watch out with that bee venom!

Ha ha Hannah they are just teasing its all in good fun I called myself fish lips

The bee venom is very safe and all the ingredients in the lip balm are organic.
Did you know bee venom is sort of like a natural botox. Some people are allergic to bee products in which case very bad for them

Lol I know, I only just saw Lotus picture haha. I only saw silver side viewed trouts when translated it.
Have you been stinged by aa bee before? Then you know it for sure, before you really get big lips.
But I did not knew that, sounds interesting.. Let us know how it was please when youve used it.

I'm wearing it now
Smells and tastes divine. It has Shea butter and other nice smelling natural ingredients. I consume bee pollen as a whole food supplement so I know I'm all good. Theresa a bee venom facelift cream which us great but very expensive too.

[EllaC]

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I can't view these comparison pics side by side UNTIL I put them together in this post.
But based on what I've seen its clearly not an instant boost. It's said to stimulate collagen production and circulation so that means itl be progressive.

Ingredients ; Sweet almond oil, beeswax, shea butter, vit E, capsicum, Manuka honey and bee venom.

[hannah]

I can't view these comparison pics side by side UNTIL I put them together in this post.
But based on what I've seen its clearly not an instant boost. It's said to stimulate collagen production and circulation so that means itl be progressive.

Ingredients ; Sweet almond oil, beeswax, shea butter, vit E, capsicum, Manuka honey and bee venom.

So you are wearing it in the first pic?
Hmm I'm curious whether it works..I'll might try it for my breasts if there's suitable bee venom for that area..
I'm already doing something comparable with lemon and orange juice on my breasts, those can boost collagen as well in the same kind off progressive way as the BeeVenom..
I've been doing that for a week now, First I was afraid that the lemon juice might shrivel my breasts up but its not.. And my hubby already reacted more positive on my breasts, he said hmm what a nice firm ''balls''..to my noogled breasts! Yehhh
*edit: Did you posted the last post in Stubbornsfemme's thread? Because I see : last posted ELLACRAIG and when I go the thread my post comes at last..

[EllaC]

I can't view these comparison pics side by side UNTIL I put them together in this post.
But based on what I've seen its clearly not an instant boost. It's said to stimulate collagen production and circulation so that means itl be progressive.

Ingredients ; Sweet almond oil, beeswax, shea butter, vit E, capsicum, Manuka honey and bee venom.

So you are wearing it in the first pic?
Hmm I'm curious whether it works..I'll might try it for my breasts if there's suitable bee venom for that area..
I'm already doing something comparable with lemon and orange juice on my breasts, those can boost collagen as well in the same kind off progressive way as the BeeVenom..
I've been doing that for a week now, First I was afraid that the lemon juice might shrivel my breasts up but its not.. And my hubby already reacted more positive on my breasts, he said hmm what a nice firm ''balls''..to my noogled breasts! Yehhh

Yes im wearing in the first pic but that pic is much smaller, but no it definitely hasn't done anything yet but FUNNILY enough that's was I was looking into last night.
Since bee venom plumps up I figured hey it will do it to the breasts as well BUT upon researching I found out bee venom and snake venom has been used internally to kill tumours - good thing...
And there were a few lotions online that contained bee venom but they were all Chinese and filled with other ingreidants I didn't understand.

I THINK that while it MIGHT give the boobs a boost assuming it works im not sure it would increase tissue much even though it is supposed to promote collagen production, you may be right.. Il post up a link, its only $16 but might cost a bit to send internationally, for me the whole thing was only $20

http://www.nzhealthfood.com/wild-ferns-b...-balm.html

PS off to google lemon on breasts lol

[hannah]

I couldnot open that pic, and could not respond quickly because my laptop is so slow..I'm spammed i guess. Luckily I could google and saw that I can buy bee venom in my own country! soon will buy some! But it could indeed be bad for tissue growth..well we'll see what it does. Lol, search on vitC+collagen.The lemon thing I figured on my own, I read that vitC promotes collagen and I read about lemons how they can ''enter'' the skin on a deep cell niveau and is active in even the deepest layer(which has a name I dont know in English, you know you have the upper dermis and etc.) Well it works until the deepest layer, is proved according my research;p

[EllaC]

I couldnot open that pic, and could not respond quickly because my laptop is so slow..I'm spammed i guess. Luckily I could google and saw that I can buy bee venom in my own country! soon will buy some! But it could indeed be bad for tissue growth..well we'll see what it does. Lol, search on vitC+collagen.The lemon thing I figured on my own, I read that vitC promotes collagen and I read about lemons how they can ''enter'' the skin on a deep cell niveau and is active in even the deepest layer(which has a name I dont know in English, you know you have the upper dermis and etc.) Well it works until the deepest layer, is proved according my research;p

Lemons are incredible at everything, cleaning, cleansing, detoxing, digestion. Just typing in lemons soo much useful stuff comes up, im definitely upping my lemon intake! Oh yeh alkalising too.

[hannah]

I couldnot open that pic, and could not respond quickly because my laptop is so slow..I'm spammed i guess. Luckily I could google and saw that I can buy bee venom in my own country! soon will buy some! But it could indeed be bad for tissue growth..well we'll see what it does. Lol, search on vitC+collagen.The lemon thing I figured on my own, I read that vitC promotes collagen and I read about lemons how they can ''enter'' the skin on a deep cell niveau and is active in even the deepest layer(which has a name I dont know in English, you know you have the upper dermis and etc.) Well it works until the deepest layer, is proved according my research;p

Lemons are incredible at everything, cleaning, cleansing, detoxing, digestion. Just typing in lemons soo much useful stuff comes up, im definitely upping my lemon intake! Oh yeh alkalising too.

Yeh they are indeed incredible, I always have them at home. I'm even detoxing my hubby with it lol. They are even getting recycled here,lol.. I use them in the dog house when he has done his cra* in his crib for the odour and it works to take away the smell everything smells like lemon afterwards. Its my holy fruit..ghehe.

[EllaC]

I couldnot open that pic, and could not respond quickly because my laptop is so slow..I'm spammed i guess. Luckily I could google and saw that I can buy bee venom in my own country! soon will buy some! But it could indeed be bad for tissue growth..well we'll see what it does. Lol, search on vitC+collagen.The lemon thing I figured on my own, I read that vitC promotes collagen and I read about lemons how they can ''enter'' the skin on a deep cell niveau and is active in even the deepest layer(which has a name I dont know in English, you know you have the upper dermis and etc.) Well it works until the deepest layer, is proved according my research;p

Lemons are incredible at everything, cleaning, cleansing, detoxing, digestion. Just typing in lemons soo much useful stuff comes up, im definitely upping my lemon intake! Oh yeh alkalising too.

Yeh they are indeed incredible, I always have them at home. I'm even detoxing my hubby with it lol. They are even getting recycled here,lol.. I use them in the dog house when he has done his cra* in his crib for the odour and it works to take away the smell everything smells like lemon afterwards. Its my holy fruit..ghehe.

You are good with this kind of stuff aren't you! Too bad my hubby is anti ANYTHING natural ie supplelements detoxing, good food even! He'd eat PACKET food for the rest of his life if I wasn't around!

But yeh with lemons I have lemon water after my coffees to try reduce the acidity the coffee causes although I know that's just ignorant, I should stop!

Do you use the lemon rinds? They are very good for you, just grate them finely and put in salad, I freeze mine so they are kinda crunchy when I put them in salad.

Have a look at macadamia nut oil for breast massage, looks promising

[hannah]

I couldnot open that pic, and could not respond quickly because my laptop is so slow..I'm spammed i guess. Luckily I could google and saw that I can buy bee venom in my own country! soon will buy some! But it could indeed be bad for tissue growth..well we'll see what it does. Lol, search on vitC+collagen.The lemon thing I figured on my own, I read that vitC promotes collagen and I read about lemons how they can ''enter'' the skin on a deep cell niveau and is active in even the deepest layer(which has a name I dont know in English, you know you have the upper dermis and etc.) Well it works until the deepest layer, is proved according my research;p

Lemons are incredible at everything, cleaning, cleansing, detoxing, digestion. Just typing in lemons soo much useful stuff comes up, im definitely upping my lemon intake! Oh yeh alkalising too.

Yeh they are indeed incredible, I always have them at home. I'm even detoxing my hubby with it lol. They are even getting recycled here,lol.. I use them in the dog house when he has done his cra* in his crib for the odour and it works to take away the smell everything smells like lemon afterwards. Its my holy fruit..ghehe.

You are good with this kind of stuff aren't you! Too bad my hubby is anti ANYTHING natural ie supplelements detoxing, good food even! He'd eat PACKET food for the rest of his life if I wasn't around!

But yeh with lemons I have lemon water after my coffees to try reduce the acidity the coffee causes although I know that's just ignorant, I should stop!

Do you use the lemon rinds? They are very good for you, just grate them finely and put in salad, I freeze mine so they are kinda crunchy when I put them in salad.

Have a look at macadamia nut oil for breast massage, looks promising

Ah too bad, my hubby at first didn't wanna try the lemon juice he said it would cause him sour but I kept saying how it helped me and its how its so great and I'll keep buying it forever and blabla and i also said that it would prevent the sour stomach thing(as you and I both know) And now he's completely convinced, drinking it and agreeing that it helps with stomach acicity.. Just push that hubby, say there's no packaged food around and just make him eat healthy

I'd never used the rinds because I'm not buying the biological ones they're more expensive.. But if I'll buy them I'll for sure use it the way you said,Sounds delicious. I am doing lemon juice on my salad, which hubby weird enough doesnot like.
I'm also using that technique with chilli peppers, then that unwashable chilli stuff doesnt come on your hands and you can rasp it onto your flesh/ food.

I'll look at that macadamia, I can use a new oil for massage, first was thinking about coconut but I'm afraid all my clothing will smell like coconut oil then.

[hannah]

In first intance I could not find anything when i searched on macadamia oil+breast massage, But then I found one link with a very interesting story about someone with breast cancer and feeding nutrients+calories through the the skin. I'm not completely finished with the story and dont now its helpful but so far its very interesting:
http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/i...g-the-Skin

a little ''citate''piece from the link)

''I had a skin care clientele in West Hollywood at the time and practiced natural skin care. I used all natural ingredients like yogurt, honey and vitamin C. I also used fresh pressed oils, like macadamia nut and almond. I thought some of my actress clients would get paranoid if they thought calories could be absorbed through the skin. Macadamia, (my favorite facial oil) ranked No. 1 in caloric value at 120 per tablespoon. Little did I know how important this information would end up being.''

edit: not interesting there no ingredients listed, its a waste off your time dont read it.