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Could this popular kitchen spice enlarge breasts?
March 24 2006 at 12:06 AM
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I found this article and wanted to share:

Cumin (Cuminum cyminum). Both common cumin and black cumin (Nigella sativa) have been shown to increase the number of mammary cells in laboratory animals. The herb's effects on the human breast are unknown, but mammals tend to have similar reactions to compounds with mammary effects. You could spice up Bustea with more ground cumin. You could also make liberal use of this spice in cooking.



~I wonder what would happen if you sprinkle some into your boobie batter?~




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used as in ingredient
March 24 2006, 12:10 AM

cumin used as in ingredient in that LeFemme stuff to
heres the ingredients, notice it lists cumin seeds:


Proprietary Blend: 1940mg
Saw Palmetto, Dong Quai, Damiana,
Fenugreek Seed, Blessed Thistle, Fennel Seed,
Pueraria Mirifica, Wild Yam, Althea Root (marshmallow),
Cumin Seed, Hops



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Also used in a pill called quick curves
March 24 2006, 12:13 AM

Also used in a pill called quick curves
1 capsule - 550mg:
Proprietary blend of: Fenugreek Extract
Saw Palmetto
Fennel Seed
L-Tyrosine
Mexican Wild Yam
Kelp Powder
Damiana
Dong Quai
Mother's Wort
Black Cohosh
Avena Sativa
Blessed Thistle
Humulus Lupus (hops)
Dandelion Root
Chasteberry Root
Panax Ginseng
Soy Isoflavones
Yellowdock Root
Red Raspberry
Squawvine
Rhubarb
Red Clover
Licorice Root
Cumin Seed




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Re: Could this popular kitchen spice enlarge breasts?
March 24 2006, 12:18 AM

i read the same thing and i noticed some women were using it but not much came out of it. it is a strong phytoestrogen so maybe there is something to this. as for how it affects mice? ummmm. humans have very unique mammary glands. we are the only mammals that have inflated mammary glands through out life. mice and other mammals only develop inflated mammary glands when they are pregnant and nursing. so i really cant see how that study can be effectivly linked a simular reaction in humans. the idea that it may help grow new mammary cells scare me a bit. if cumin can grow new cells then it can also grow corupt cells too (cancer)

anyways i read some women used tumeric, curry, cumin and many other herbs for NBE. results are sorta mixed so i cant say for sure if they are effective but i think that that its possible they could work. some women who eat spicy foods find that their breasts tingle more while on NBE. so who knows. but if anyone is considering experimenting with these herbs be careful.




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Thanks SugarQ
March 24 2006, 12:28 AM

but dont some of the other more popular herbs also produce new cells? (fenugreek-wild yam-fennel..ect)
I thought that is why some skepticks think cancer could be caused by NBE. Because a cluster of new cell growth that got out of control may cause breast cancer.

Am I right or wrong to say that some of the herbs we are using now are said to promote new cell growth?

In the case that that is true, we must be carefull using ANY of these herbs, not just cumin. And please, I am not argueing, just stateing what I believe to be true.




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Re: Could this popular kitchen spice enlarge breasts?
March 24 2006, 12:58 AM

fennel is one that causes new cell growth but im not too sure about wild yam and fenugreek.

my mind goes back and forth because to understand the cancer risk, you need to know how the herbs work to cause NBE and im not 100% sure how they work.

phytoestrogens have been known to prevent cancer to maybe to some extent that protects against cancer but then how do the phytoestrogens cause growth?

1 thoery i have is that the herbs like fenugreek and fennel causes the breast to swell which causes tention on the breast tissue just like the brava. and we know what happens to tissue when its under pressure from swelling. it grows new cells to compensate for the tension which is how i believe we get perminant growth from NBE. Just like with the brava the first few months you use the herbs you get swelling which will go away if you quit too soon. but if you maintain the swelling long enough the breast will start making new cell and thats the stuff we keep once the swelling goes away.

now phytoestrogens are weaker then natural estrogens so they both compete for receptors. overall phytoestrogens lowers natural estrogens activity which lowers cancer risks.most women are already estrogen dominant so the phytoestrogen my help to rebalance their hormone levels and in doing so it helps with NBE. i dont know.

i dont think that there is a huge risk factor but there are women who report seriouse symptoms like lumps in their breast, aggrevated endometriosis, pains in the ovaries, early or delayed periods and these problems can easily be seriouse so its a warning to women who already have these conditions not to do NBE unless they get the ok from a doctor. I generally think NBE is safe but we still need to pay attention to our bodies cause herbs can be just as dangerouse as some prescription drugs so we need to respect them and use them carefully.




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I agree SugarQ
March 24 2006, 6:08 PM

we must be carefull. And thank you for your response.

its certainly true that phytoestrogens are said to protect against cancer. i've seen from many sources that phytoestrogens may prevent cancer.



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Cumin
March 24 2006, 11:29 PM

I've noticed cumin in NBE products. I think there are several products which use it.

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I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 23 2007 at 7:59 AM Davilee (Login Davi-lee)
Well,Im so excited by this....anyway....
I found a site called Gernot Katzer's Spice Pages[.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/]for you other crazy pharmacognosists out there.....
Okay..Cumin contains 3 of the same P-chems that Ive found to be consistant with other herbs that have volatile oils and have breast developing abilites.
The main ones are first then other constituents.
>Alpha Pinene
>Beta Pinene contains 21% of both per ?,im not sure what the amount is.
>Beta Phellandrene

The other constituents:
>Cumin aldehyde ;P-isopropyl-benzaldehyde, 25-35%
>Perilla aldehyde
>Cumin alcohol
>Dipentene
>P-cymene
Some of these may be important also,I just didnt find any correlation between these and the chem profiles of any other plants associated with Phytohormone effects.

Guess what cumin's chemical profile closely resembles as to its major chem's??......Any guesses??.....
>>>>>FENNEL!!<<<< So,I have finally found some proof as to what Ive read,and that was related to the research that showed that cumin given to lab animals caused them to have much growth of mammary gland cells.
I hope you find this interesting.



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 23 2007, 12:02 PM

Yeah, cumin is a known galactogogue, as is fennel. It's common in teas for nursing mothers.



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 23 2007, 12:22 PM

good info Davilee, i think i prefere cumin to fennel well worth a thaught about adding to program.
I c from your other posts you have been taking it, how r u getting on?



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 23 2007, 5:43 PM

Are cumin and fennel related? The seeds look v similar but not sure what the leaves are like.



Davilee
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Oh Darn...you knew already...
August 23 2007, 7:12 PM

Gee,Moon..and here I thought I had some new info...oh well....

Hey,GingerD,well,...its too soon to tell..I've just taken a break awhile back and then changed some things around this week..uh..not a good week to do that I realize now....
Anyway,I'll tell you one thing that I'm not sure right now is a result of the cumin or the marshmallow or the EPO...or a result of all three..
The same day I started taking those three as my main herbs...I felt like fluids were just rushing into my breasts...my lymph ducts under my arms were really sore and I had quite a feeling of fullness....they actually felt firmer and looked a bit bigger...they still are fairly much.....and Im getting a lot of aches and soreness,not continually though sort of off and on through a day.
Sometimes it feels like they are throbbing,not a bad feeling,just feels like something is going on.
But dont rush out ya'll and buy a case of cumin....it might be that its just due to the time of the month.
Thats why Im laying off of it for a bit and restart it in a week or so.
We shall see,Im going to keep it a main addition right now,just because it has intrigued me......Davilee



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 23 2007, 9:34 PM

Wow, this is really interesting. I have always drank cumin tea when I had really bad period pains. It helps get rid of cramps, but now I am wondering if it has anything to do with its Fennel similar properties too?

Davilee, how much cumin, EPO and marshmallow do you take? I am really interested in this as I am not really on anything just now, only doing massages, but eating some cumin on the side really can't do any harm.




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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 23 2007, 11:45 PM

Louise: They are related as they are in the Umbellifera family.
Like Anise,Dill,Yarrow,QueensAnnes Lace,Sweet Annie,Wormwood,Carrots
Its about the flower heads,thats where the family name comes from
Anise has another very different chemical profile than the others.
Anise shares Three chems with Cumin and...
Fennel shares Seven or Eight chems with Cumin....
Fennel is the most complex of all of them,it has the most chemicals in its composition.

Do you know what Nigella garden flower looks like?
Cumin looks like that except a bit stockier and a bit bushier habit.



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 24 2007, 7:28 AM

That would make sense as they have an aniseed flavour. Isn't nigella just onion? Plant looks like a big chive? Don't worry I can probably look up a pic.



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 24 2007, 8:39 AM

Cumin is a pepper isn't it? I don't think it's as strong as Fennel, which is why you don't find Cumin in breast enhancement formulas very often, but find Fennel in them very commonly.



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 24 2007, 8:55 AM

Lol, no matter DaviLee, every bit of info is great.



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I meant to get back here sooner to correct my Mistakes....
August 24 2007, 12:14 PM

Yeah,I had a PC problem,it didnt like to send or receive e-mails and it was waaaaay sloooooow...But nothing that 3-4 hours of diagnostic and file clearing and Hd Drive defragging couldnt solve....
Anywaaaay!....okay,I made a mistake calling yarrow and sweet annie and wormwood Umbelliferas,they arent,they are compositae,Sunflower family.
I recalled inaccurately the images in my mind of s.annie amd wormwood;got them confused with something else.

Alrighty...now... Onion's are Alliums in the lily family

Nigella is a lovely green soft and billowy plant with fine leaves like a dill,sort of,but can have either soft pink,white,soft blue flowers,there are some new cultivars with brighter colors.
After the flowers bloom,the ovary turns into a balloon like pod about 1.5"or 4cm.long and 1" or 2.5cm wide ,thats green with maroon stripes and the pod has the little lacey/fringey leaves growing off of it. Youve probably seen it around,its a popular garden flower.Its a hardy annual,reseeds itself fairly prolifically.
Nigella is sometimes refered to as black cumin mistakenly,there is a black cumin that is related to reg.cumin

Nope, Cumin isnt a pepper or anywhere close to the solanacea family,
Cumin is in the umbellifera family,like I said before.
It is Cuminum cyminum,...sounds like a title to a Dr.Seuss book.
All of their seeds look simlilar.Except dill,its not ribbed or grooved like anise and fennel and cumin. Cow Parsnip is in the Umbel. fam.;as is Poison or water hemlock.

Please,Go to that spice site I mentioned or WIKI or *.botanical.com*
They will have pics of Cumin and Nigella.



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Oops forgot Lisa.......
August 24 2007, 1:16 PM

Hiya,....well....for Cumin and Marshmallow, Im taking about 3 no.00 caps of each every 8 hrs or so. For EPO Im taking 2000mg every 8-10 hrs.
Ive only been taking the EPO since the 14th or 15th.
The other two back last week then backed off this week as I was feeling crappy,not from the herbs from the proximity of the lunar appointment.

I make my own capsules,I have a great little herb shop in my town,like an little apothecary..its a cute place..I love it ,the smell of Patchouli hits ya when ya open the door.....with all kinds of books and herb related stuff...incense...spirituality stuff....they have a little tea room place also...I really hope they do well,she just had to move the store because of poor traffic...and some jerks from another town that were trying to run her out of business by selling plants right near her area,and trying to get her customers.
Oh anyway.....I buy bags of the herbs,such as Marshmallow root..its prepowdered and finely ground....I just fill my own geletin caps...
It only costs me 2.00 for enough herb to fill almost 150 caps...its so excellent!!!!!
Ive found Hops flowers and Licorice root and Red Raspberry leaves and alfalfa and redclover seed for sprouts.

Oh by the way....(IF you can take the smell you'll produce which isnt that bad really,I like to smell like a dish of ethnic food).....Get your Fenugreek and alfalfa and redclover by eating the sprouts of those herbs....they are much more powerful..as the germinating seed produces some of the strongest chemicals.I just know from supporting info. that I read on sprouts, that each of these is very strong effects taken as sprouts.
My own personal experience is that the difference between fenugreek seed powdered in caps and fenugreek sprouts eaten fresh....the fenugreek essence I exude is a lot stronger with the sprouts...so that should mean that they are probably much stronger than the seeds.
They each have their own differing amounts of the innate chemical constituents...it was hard to tell though the difference in effects on my body....
Id need to take them separated by some time and by themselves and no other herbs,to actually get a true result of effects.

I dont know why I hadnt been making my own caps. sooner,I couldve saved a lot of money.



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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 24 2007, 2:03 PM

Thanks Davilee for all the info.
I would just like to use the organic powdered cumin I can buy as a spice in the shops. How much of a capsule fits onto a teaspoon of that, do you know, and would that be basically what you are taking too?

I am off the Fenugreek at the moment, just can't be bothered with the smell just now. Also I still need to gain weight and don't want to waste the herbs on my too thin body at the moment. As I like cumin though anyway and have a irritable bowel sometimes and cumin is good for that I thought I would give that a shot just now.

I have been drinking abour 300 ml of Soy milk a day too and that seems to do something, even though I am not taking anything else and am just doing some pressure point massages, my boobs have been tender and tingly and feel a bit fuller, so something seems to be working a little at least, as I never get any sensations when I am not doing BE.




Davilee
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Capsules and Soymilk.....
August 25 2007, 3:37 AM

Hey,Lisa,....lets say that an 00 capsule is like half a gram or so.
Its about 16mm or 5/8" long and about 6mm or 1/4" wide.
A teaspoon is about equal to about 6-7 00 caps(?)
Im taking 9 in 24 hours.
0 caps are a bit bigger.

Yes,Im just buying fresh Cumin from the spice aisle at the market.

Yes,cumin is supposed to be good for digestive problems and its good for healing bruises and injuries.

Hey,Ive found Edensoy Organic soymilk plain flavor...its got the most isoflavones per oz of any soymilk Ive found...69mg per oz....and it really tastes good.Ive been trying to drink more of it also.
But Im also worried about the effects of unfermented soy on thyroid and I saw a site that said it prevents the absorption of some vitamins.

Sally Anne: I forgot to say but you were probably thinking of Cayenne pepper.




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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 25 2007, 4:10 PM

Hi Davilee, just to check if I got this right. If I took one teaspoon and a bit I should have kind of the equivalent of your 9 capsules or so.
I think I will just try it with 1-2 a day and see how it goes.

That soy milk sounds good, the one I drink doesn't have too much soy beans in it but I can't find any that have more.
I find the flavour quite nice, the organic ones usually taste a lot better than the others.

I don't think we should worry too much about those side effects, I am not drinking three barrels a day of that stuff and there isn't that much soy in it either, I don't think that from 300ml a day I will do my body much harm, if it can't cope with that I would really start to wonder.
Also all those asian women eating lots of soy beans, tofu, soy sprouts etc. seem to be quite healthy too, although that may have something to do with their consumption of fish as well. Who knows, but everything has some kind of side effect if consumed in too large doses, so I would just stick to a certain limit and would think that that should be alright.
I would just try to stay away from the genetically altered stuff.

Keep us updated, I will do the same.




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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 25 2007, 6:21 PM

I ordered some Black Seed Oil in capsules, which is apparently cumin oil.

Will add that to what I'm already taking in a couple weeks.

Here's my regimine at the moment (I don't have a personal page):

Saw palmetto- 585mg 3x a day
Fenugreek- 620mg 3x a day
Hops- 310 mg 2-3x a day
Red Raspberry Leaves- 480mg 1 or so a day, sometimes more sometimes less. =/

I am really counting on the hops...




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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 25 2007, 6:22 PM

Shoot I forgot----

I'm also taking folic acid- 800mcg 1x a day.

I heard it helps weight gain, plus it's just good for you.



Davilee
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I will cap up 1 tesp and see for sure....
August 25 2007, 6:31 PM

Okay??....I'll do that and let you know definitely what the equality is.
But,I think that 1 tesp. is more likely less than 9 capsules,but maybe not.
1 tesp a day isnt going to hurt you.I havent seen any side effects of eating too much Cumin. Unless you smell like cumin after a bit.
I sort of have a spicy essence from taking it.
I reduced my intake of it,once I got into this week,because I wasnt sure what it would do with the other things,I needed to have.
I'm going to stoke up on it after the next week or so.
Perhaps I'll do a comparison test with fennel,...as I havent taken it in large amounts,only tea. Actually,taking it in large amounts like capsules may not be any more effective,I dont know yet.
Anybody,take powdered fennel seed in capsule form??
Cheers--Davilee




Davilee
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Hey Alcest and Lisa.....
August 26 2007, 2:19 AM

***Okay,...Lisa,I found that 1 tesp. is equal to six capsules.

Alcest,...thats interesting 'bout the "black seed" oil.For what remedies do they sell it that way??....Id guess the same reasons for taking the powder.
Yah,Hops are supposed to be good...Im really wanting to try them..but,im experimenting with several things right now and cant do it yet.

Hops have one of the most powerful phytoestrogenic compounds its 1/20th the strength of,I think estriol or maybe estradiol.Its got a long name ,and I cant recall it right now...it wouldnt mean anything to ya anyway.

Wow..folic acid causes weight gain?...superduper...Im always looking for something for gaining.Im slender and need to gain weight to help with the hormone assimulation.I take all the mass gaining herbs that I can,and eat a lot of gaining foods. I take the max amount of folic anyway,so this is good, I have yet another reason for taking it.

Cheers,Davilee







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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 26 2007, 1:04 PM

Hi Davilee, thanks for checking that for me, I think I will take 1 1/2 teaspoons, I really like cumin and I think I may just eat it with butter on bread or something.

If you want to gain weight, stay away from the fennel. That stuff decreases appetite and aids in weight loss.
Fenugreek is a good appetite stimulant and can help with weight gain.
Milk has quite a lot of calories, so that is quite good too.
If you find anything else that helps with weight gain, please let me know. I am underweight just now, not much but really need to put on about 3-5 kilos.

Regarding the teas, they can be stronger than herbs in capsule form as your body absorbes the liquid better. I think two cups of Fennel tea a day should be a good dosage for BE, three at most.
You may also consider drinking the cumin as tea, just putting a teaspoon in a cup or the whole lot and drinking that.
I always drink cumin tea when my periods are really bad, it tastes pretty strong and gross but it is quite effective against the period pain and fast working, so it may work better for BE too than just taking it in capsules.



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Black seeds - sorry got carried away and wrote another essay!
August 26 2007, 10:26 PM

As far as I know black seeds aren't cumin seeds, they're nigella (they are supposed to be good for you, for a whole load of things (google kalonjidirect for uses, includes increasing lactation). They are of the same class as cumin but different family:

Kingdom: Plantae Kingdom: Plantae

Division: Magnoliophyta Division: Magnoliophyta

Class: Magnoliopsida Class: Magnoliopsida

Order: Ranunculales Order: Apiales

Family: Ranunculaceae Family: Apiaceae

Genus: Nigella Genus: Cuminum

Species: N. sativa Species: C. cyminum

Black seed oil is an Arabic remedy for everything as it is reported in religious literature that Prophet Mohammed (SAW) recommended that we "use black seed regularly because it has a cure for every disease except death." (Interestingly also "If my community had only known what there is in fenugreek they would have paid its weight in gold.")

- more on this and other herbs:

http://www.islamonline.net/English/Scien...cle2.shtml



Davilee
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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 26 2007, 11:29 PM

Louise your confusing two different plants in different families.

Spice Cumin,Cuminum cyminum is in the umbelliferae family

Nigellas are in in the Rununculaceae family just as you said.
The garden nigella(love in a mist) I mentioned is Nigella damascena,I grow that in my garden.
The other "black 'cumin'" is the Nigella sativa,you're right on that also,its just not technically a real cumin.

BUT that's great that nigella is good for this also.
I wonder if the garden nigella can be used the same way.It makes loads of black seeds.

I read in my Green Pharmacy book,it mentioned Cumin and N.sativa as having the same properties for breast development.Thats excellent.thanks.

Lisa the only herbs I know right now that Ive read that are associated with mass gain are fenugreek,saw p.,marshmallow.

Okay,I do Fennel tea...but I'll take your suggestion about cumin as a tea.
I bet that heating it allows more constituents to be released.Good thing.
Have you combined them together?..or is that way too much?

Foods i eat that are associated with gaining are buchwheat,oatmeal,avacados,potatoes,all kinds of nuts,fresh coconut,beans,
root veggies like carrots.I eat pasta but not consistantly,Im kinda wary of the blood sugar thingy.





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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 27 2007, 12:51 PM

Hi Davilee,
I never really used Fennel regularly, only drank a cup of it for a while with taking Fenugreek and other herbs.
I am sure though that drinking one or two cups of Fennel tea and one or two cups of Cumin tea a day really shouldn't be too much. You are best trying it with one cup each for a month though and see what goes, or two to one cup. It all depends on your body and how it reacts, it may react to this quite quickly so you don't want to use too much, although I don't think that it would be.

Thanks for the list of foods and herbs, I am just struggling because I never eat much of anything, I just have to increase what I eat and how often. I am doing a bit better with it at the moment and I believe I am slowly gaining some weight, I just have to stick to it. Also I have a general problem with not eating that much so I have to teach myself to do that while I am doing this I guess.





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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 27 2007, 6:56 PM

I regularly take black seed oil but not for BE purposes. I take it for over all health. It is also called a blessed seed (it was recommended by prophet muhammad, peace be upon him....like Louise mentioned). It's an EFA, here's some brief info. If you google it you can find the many more uses of it.

"Amazingly Black Seed's chemical composition is very rich and diverse. Aside from its primary ingredient, crystalline nigellone, Black Seed contains 15 amino acids, proteins, carbohydrates, both fixed oils (84% fatty acids, including linolenic, and oleic), and volatile oils, alkaloids, saponin, and crude fiber, as well as minerals such as calcium, iron, sodium and potassium. There are still many components in Black Seed that haven't been identified. But research is going on around the world. *"



Davilee
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Re: I think Ive found the reasons CUMIN develops mammary glands
August 28 2007, 5:51 PM

Hey Lisa,yes I will take your advice on the teas.
Oh I misspelled BUCKWHEAT, accidently,I put an H instead of the K.I looked at it the other day before submission and I swear it was a K.

Heres my little experimental combo that Im using right now. Im wondering if others may want to test it when they have time.
Now this combo I tried it 2-3 times and rested in between just so i could tell whether or not it was actually these herbs having the effects.
^^^^^^^^^^
>Cumin: 3-4 caps
>marshmallow root powder: 3-4 caps
>licorice root powder: 3-4 caps....recommended no more than 3g/day
>Saw Palmetto: 4-5 caps ....this one may be left out if needed..I dont think that its as important to the rest of them in total.
***OR* it may be important,I havent left it out to find out.I like to keep my SP going all the time.
>Borage Oil: 1-2 500mg caps.....this seemed to strenghthen the effect of the total.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Anyway,the effect it had on me ,which I think I mentioned was a little while after taking them,I get a real feeling of fullness and it feels like fluid is really rushing into my breast areas.They look bigger and feel real dense.
This mat not work for others like it does me.Just being a realist.
Hey Ann, Yah.Wow.....Im really kinda excited about the black-blessed seed,it sounds very intriging. Now to double check...what you last said above...that is the Nigella sativa you are refering to,correct?

Well,Im going to try my garden nigella seed and see if it would have the same properties as the medicinal nigella.Im sure there are differences in the chemical constituency,just like the thistles and the fennels.

I'll put nigella on my list of herbs to experiment with.



Davilee
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>>>>>>>PS
August 28 2007, 6:53 PM

Oh I forgot to add to my list of herbs for mass gaining.....

>Hops....i dont know why i forgot that the other day
>Licorice....this is just my intuition on it.I havent seen anything definite about it causing gains

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Cumin....as glandular cell multiplier
July 26 2007 at 5:55 AM Davilee (Login Davi-lee)
I had not had time to go through all the archive and check this for past posts on Cumin so please excuse me if its been mentioned before.
I kept forgetting to mention this,as its in a spot in my book thats easy to miss.
Im talking about the spice Cumin(Cuminum cyminum)& Black Cumin(Nigella sativa)
In the book The green Pharmacy it says that research has been done to show that Cumins increase the number of mammary glands of lab. animals.
He didnt have any facts on the effects on humans,but assumed it would be a similar effect.
You'll notice that the one is Nigella,it is a common flower in some people gardens,albeit it is an exotic species it grows well in most of the country,as it reseeds itself readily.You could have a unlimited supply of your own fresh seed to grind for tea or poultice or to put in your own creme.
He recommended that many spices and herbs are potent enough to be absorbed directly through the skin of the breasts,so its a good alternative to trying to find another pill and having to add another pill to your regimine.



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Re: Cumin....as glandular cell multiplier.
July 26 2007, 11:16 AM

Yes, I have come across cummin several times on info searches with regards to possibilities for breast growth, but really not a common herb on this forum.



Panda
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Re: Cumin....as glandular cell multiplier.
July 26 2007, 5:29 PM

I bought ground cumin to cook with back when I was trying to keep my NBE as natural as possible, but couldn't stand the taste and never touched it again. Do y'all think it's a good idea to make capsules with it? I wouldn't recommend massage, as it has the most hideous smell!



Moon
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Re: Cumin....as glandular cell multiplier.
July 26 2007, 5:46 PM

I found cumin in one herbal tea blend for increasing breast milk. I suppose it's a galactogogue, much like goat's rue.




Molly
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Re: Cumin....as glandular cell multiplier.
July 26 2007, 8:48 PM

There have definitely been a few NBE products that have used Cumin in the past, and there might still be some now, but as far as I know although it contains phytoestrogens it isn't regarded as high in them.




Alcest
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Re: Cumin....as glandular cell multiplier.
July 27 2007, 12:37 AM

Mmm I love cumin! I love Mexican food in general actually. =)
Good excuse to go eat more burritos!



Davilee
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Re: Cumin....as glandular cell multiplier.
July 27 2007, 6:32 AM

Yes,it has a strong smell.
I tried putting it in my herb tea straight and it doesnt go well with mint and ginger.Its too "savory" of a essence.
Perhaps I will try making my own capsules with it then I dont have to taste it. Im intrigued by the small info. I have on it.Im going to try and find some more out about it.
Yes,I thought of applying it topically also,but changed my mind,as i didnt want to feel and smell like I had meat tenderizer on me.