hi shaneny, punky,
it is very encouraging to see both of your progress. i was worry at first when i started NBE with my current age. I see a lot of success stories women with age over 30 gained bigger boobs, i have more confidence now, i know i am not alone (women with age 30 over） in the battle now.
my NBE program for now :
today is my day 9 (first cycle).
1. pm 250mg in the morning with empty stomach, i take it with milk.
After 20 mins, proten shake with high L-arg (this is until the day before my ovulation). i use bbt chart to track my menstrual cycle
2. i will do breast massage every morning and evening after hot shower. I bought Naturaful before, i plan to finish it and switch to other brands. i heard pm cream is better. I don't want to waste it, to make it more potent, i add pm powder to naturaful cream. if time allowed, i will do massage in afternoon with flax oil + pm powder.
3. i have ordered pig placenta (maruman brand) from amazon, HA, and Msm.
it will arrive soon next week, i will start to take it to gain more effective result. Alot of success stories, they have these nice stuffs in their program.
4. i m taking collagen everyday between meal.
i try to follow ginie's program, she gained great success fr NBE. you can find her thread from this forum.
Here is the summary of her program,
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Follicular phase
M pill, PM cream, placenta, hyaluronic acid, collagen, MSM,
Aumenti, vitamin C, whey protein shake, calcium
(I will try to drink as much Contrex as I can but it doesn't taste very good).
Luteal phase
lacenta, Hyaluronic acid, collagen, MSM, Aumenti,
Vitamin E, progesterone cream, whey protein shake,
maybe PM cream but I'm not sure about this one.
1. PM pill - St.Herb 400mg a day, Siriporn - 200mg a day. Morning and evening, on empty stomach.
After 20 minutes - food rich in calcium or Ca pill.This is only until 1-2 days before ovulation.
PM cream - twice a day throughout the cycle, morning and evening after shower, in shower I use PM soap on my boobs, let it stay for few minutes.
2. Pig placenta (Maruman) - 4 a day, 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening,
on empty stomach, with cold water. I take it together with supplement #3.
I think it is 500mg, or so it says on Maruman site though on a bottle it is all in Japanese.
3. Hyaluronic acid (from Japan, sorry,I don't know what is the brand) 2 a day - take it with supplement #2.
Next week I switch to Neocell HA just because that Japanese HA was brought for me by a colleage of mine who went to Japan and I ran out of my supplies.
4. Protein shake - once a day but as I hate the taste I drink it 2-3 times a week max. I should be more consistent with it.
5. MSM - 4000mg a day with vitamin C. Imprtant NOT to take it with Ca food or supplements becasue they cancell each other.
6. Collagen, from Japan, the same one that Chiyumilk was using, Meiji, it contains vit C and arginine. Before going to bed on empty stomach.
7. Noogleberry! In the beginning - every day but later - few times a week. It is a GREAT thing for growing. I think I should thank NB for improving the shape. I used to have skin on bones between the boobs, this area was pretty wide. Now I have meet on, not really a cleavage yet (thought a bra) but the boobs sit "closer" together if you understand what I mean. I advise noogling laying down, use oil instead of cream. I can only use one cup at the time, so unfortunately it takes really long time but it's worth it. I use "serum" from Siriporn which I bought. I turned out to be plain OIL! I didn't know what to do with it so decided to use when noogling. I love love love noogling. I wish I could do it every day but I keep it a secret from my husband, so, I can only use it when he is not at home.
8. Sometimes I drink Contrex, it is the mineral water Chilyumilk was drinking to avoid bloating, besides it is reach in Mg and Ca.
9. Massage. Usually before NB.
10. During luteal phase I sometimes use PC. Just a little, really little. And not every month.
I was told progesterone sensitizes the estrogen receptors which after a continuous use of PM (or any other strong estrogen)
can become insensitive to estrogen. Especially if you overdose on estrogenic herbs.
11. Last month I added fennel tea few times a week, not consistent with it.
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good luck !!!
hope to hear from your progress more!!!
yaay. I seriously just thought I would always have a flat chest and just had to learn to accept it (and wear very padded bras to fill out a dress.) I am so surprised and thrilled.
