NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 14 2006 at 12:36 PM Ashley (no login)
I have been doing research and I am sorry ladies but herbs don't increase breast size permanently. You need to take the herbs every 3-4 months for a 2-3 week period. If you don't keep taking the herbs every 3-4 months for a 2-3 week period your breast size will go back to normal (like it was before you took any of the herbs). I also found out when you don't take the herbs every 3-4 months for a 2-3 week period you can lose the firmness in your breasts. I found out Saw Palmetto does cause weight gain (done research on the internet and talked to a woman in the health food store and she looked in her book and looked up Saw Palmetto and it does promote weight gain). Since I found this out I will not use the herbs to increase my breast size. If you can't live with your natural breast I would get breast implants. I am 18 and if I do ever get breast implants I will wait until I am at least 22. Breast implants on a average do last 16 years so it would be likely you would have to get the breast implants replaced through out your life time.
Coffeegirl
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 14 2006, 9:27 PM
Well aren't you full of good wishes and cheer... I'm so glad that you think you are so smart. You must be the smartest 18 year old ever-- you did research, wow. That's like almost the same as experience. This is all sarcasm by the way. Look sweetie, I don't know why you felt compelled to come over here and rain on our parade, but next time you feel the urge to squash someone, go find a bug. I know for a fact that this works long term (my sister has results years after she did her thing with herbs), and I know of others here who have had the same experience. If you want implants, go knock your self out, get implants. We don't give a rats ass. But don't come over here and be a royal pain just because you think you found all the answers to all the questions in the universe.
Ada
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 14 2006, 10:53 PM
Yes, i agree with coffeegirl, Not even doctors know how herbs work either, so i dont expect you ashley with your "experience" and little research on the i-net to know enough to have a conclusion or have a clue. So, you go ahead and think whatever your mind wants, but dont come here trying to get our hopes down, this is a forum for people that are looking for a solution, we are all sharing advice, and supporting eachother, so if you dont have anything positive to contibute with or say , then dont bother
And by the way. i had some success like 4 years ago,with NBE and i havent lost any of it, its all there where it should be(not having to take anything else)... well, Good luck with your implants!
And best wishes to all you wonderful ladies in this forum!
Love.. ADA
mitharatowen
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 14 2006, 11:18 PM
im not going to insult anyone i just want to say that it is true that doctors dont know much about herbs. and then you also have to consider how much money the plastic surgeons are making with all of their implants. most people generally look down on herbs so most people would believe that it wouldnt work so thats most of what youre going to read about when you do research. however on this forum we have many living examples of people who did get real permanent growth. and besides i think i speak for most of us when i say that if taking maintenence doses is what it takes to keep our boobs, we'll do it.
Anonymous
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 12:37 AM
Hey, I'm perfectly allright if once I get to my goal, every 3-4months I have to take herbs for 2-3 weeks. Sounds alot safer and cheaper then implants!
Now if I could just get to my goal.............
Anonymous
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 1:10 AM
when you said you were 18, that answered my question!!!
Anonymous
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 1:16 AM
ashley, you can get implants if you want, but maybe you need to do more research on that, you might change your mind if you do enough research, if you realize the risks......
Moonkissed
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NBE Is Not Permanent- but according to whom?
October 15 2006, 5:27 AM
"I have been doing research and I am sorry ladies but herbs don't increase breast size permanently."
Out of curiosity, did you talk to any women from this board, other Internet forums, or in real life to establish your conclusion, or did you simply read a few sites and decide that this must be so based on their information (I am not being snarky, I am genuinely curious)? Let me assure you that I have read many sites on the Internet, and not just Googled for some general information. Those persons who are against NBE will tell you that the results decrease after herb intake is stopped. What those sites typically fail to mention is that the herbs may cause temporary swelling (a prelude to actual growth of the breast tissue), and that will naturally go down once the herbs are stopped.
The processes that we posters use promote the growth of lobules and alveoli, and enable a "second puberty" of sorts. The thing is that once puberty ceases, the breasts are not suddenly doing to disappear, otherwise every single woman on this planet would be walking around with no breasts after finishing her time of puberty.
Now, I have yet to hear of a situation where a woman went up a full cup size or two on herbs and then dramatically decreased back to original size after stopping herbs. However, I have read a handful of cases where women experienced temporary swelling on herbs, and assumed (incorrectly) that this was actual breast growth.
Eve M
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October 15 2006, 7:28 AM
I agree entirely with what henriettahippo said, that even if I had to take herbs for a couple of weeks every 3-4 months to maintain the results, I would do it quite willingly and I'd still be more than happy with what I've achieved.
Moon
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 9:47 AM
Hahaha, this post was just funny. I think you should have predicted that on a site like this, people know about the stuff thay're doing. Many girls here have been doing NBE for years and have in the meantime read every bit of information about it that they came across or could find. And more importantly, a lot of people here have had permanant sucess with NBE. So you didn't brake any new information to us, much less a correct one.
Anonymous
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 10:46 AM
hahahaha, i had my self a good laugh from coffeegirl`s post. And i must say i agree with ya girls. I would rather use herbs and grow natural than fake ugly plastic boobs. And if we need maintness so what.... it is teen times better then beeing a barbie.
Moon
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 11:45 AM
I personally find silicon boobs ugly. I don't think myself I'd feel any better knowing that my boobs are artificial. It's just repeling.
Lisa 121
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 1:17 PM
I have to agree with all you girls, and coffeegirl, you are brilliant, that was the best reply one could have given and it made my day it was so funny!!!
Best luck to all you girls growing,
Lisa
kitty
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 2:27 PM
I agree with moon, especially knowing that they are not your own. Plus you get ripples when you bend, so it makes it obvious that the boobs are fake, and having to shell out a few grand everytime the implants needs replacing, is just too much. So I think NBE is always worth a try..considering the risks involved in boob jobs.
kiana
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 15 2006, 3:50 PM
I really take my hat off to all of us who have the guts and determination to achieve our goals naturally in a world which is so bizarly accepting of plastic surgery. Although it seems easier to get implants i always consider what it would be like if i did and i just think i would feel even less of a woman knowing that i had these foriegn objects inside me which aren't even my own body... i think it would be really embarrassing for people to know you were willing to go to that extreme. I know in America people are obsessed with implants but here in Australia people still see it as a bit of a joke and kind of look down (if not quietly laugh) at women who would do that... at least that is my experience. If i am able to grow naturally (and there is so much evidence that this is possible) i would be so much happier and prouder to know that my breasts are my own and I did not have to be mamed in the process. And if i have to take a maintainance dose for the rest of my life - who cares... better than having to have old hardened plastic removed from my body, replaced and stitched up again... (Frankenstein!!!!!)
C4ME
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October 15 2006, 7:44 PM
Ashley,
I agree with the rest of the girls in this forum......I'll continue to take herbs for the rest of my life as long as that means, I have my own real breast tissue growing!
Now that I grew one cup size through nbe, I can't even imagine getting implants!
I love the feeling that these are all my own natural breasts because they just feel soft and they look more plump and beautiful than plastic could ever make them out to appear.
There have been so many success stories with nbe, and I'm definately one of them...so many of us here have grown and managed to keep our growth successfully...you should have taken the time to at least read all of our posts here.....women's success stories are the best evidence that nbe works, not what doctors say.
MK3
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 16 2006, 12:08 AM
I agree with everybody here.
All I can say about this is that I truely believe that NBE really works.I have only seen just a litle difference since starting ,but I did grow some.There is plenty of eveidense that NBE works.Amber is one of them.I dont think she had to even take any herbs for maintanance since she stopped using Wonderup.
NBE may work for some and not for others.This has been repeated over and over again.But I'd rather take my chances with herbs then pay for a boob job anyday.
Tap
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results?
October 16 2006, 11:13 AM
Hmmmm, permanent or not i won;t mind taking maintanence herbs -not just for my boobs, but since being on the herbs, my skin, PMT and libido have improved dramatically. NBE is a great alrounder (accidential pun) hehe..
Love Tap
Coffeegirl
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PMS
October 16 2006, 3:28 PM
I get very snarky when I'm PMSing, and I am TOTALLY PMSing right now. =)
On a calmer note (grin), if I have to take herbs off and on for the next few years or more, so be it. It's true, women with impants are laughed at. I'm sorry, I'm not saying it's nice, but it's a fact! Women with impants get less respect for their brains. I know that herbs won't get me as big as implants will, but I can live with that. Plus, any time I think about getting impants, I think about my 3 year old daughter. When she gets older she'd figure it out. Is that the message I want to send to her? Do I want my daughter think that plastic surgury is a good option when we don't like something about our bodies? I don't want to sit there and tell her to accept her nose, or her boobs, or whatever when I'm sitting there with big plastic boobies under my chin. So I'll take the extra work and slow progress of herbs, thank you very much.
Now I'm going to go find a company or tv show that bugs me and go use some of this snarky-ness on them.
Snowflake
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Hey girls, I'm with you!!!!
October 16 2006, 4:48 PM
Somebody correct me if I have mentioned the wrong girl, but wasn't it Ambers sister that had used Wonder Up six years ago and has kept her growth, and in the meantime had a set of twins and Still kept her growth after having babies. Soooo, I would have to say with a strong program or formula the odds are still good a lady would keep her growth. Christina had MAJOR growth and has not reported in that she has lost anything. I think she has been off her program for a while, somebody please agin correct me ifI am mistaken. So I think girls that have been on lengthy routines keep their growth.. Sorry Ashley!!!!, but I think you need to read THIS forum more throughly to maybe get a bigger picture.
gingerD
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Ohh this has got me!!!
October 16 2006, 5:21 PM
Where have i been while this discussioin was going on!!!!
Coffee girl-DITTO !!!!!!!
I was absalutly fuming reading the 1st post grrrrrr
Ashley What colour is the sky in your world?
This was obviously going to cause a stirr, aspecially when your talking out of your arse,Where did this reasearch come from?
we may as well get Breast implants -No afence Luv but this shows your age, you have come on a fourm specifically for Natural breast enlargement.
Yes im sure we all should just have our body ripped open and mutilated because it would be easyer, im not against silicone implants its the vulgar way the rich doctors treat you-like meat as they run to the bank.
and p.s-when reasearching you will find boob jobs are reccomended for 10 years they can be kept in longer but not advised -after visiting 5 leading surgons i DO know
pps-Suprisingly if you actually read threads/programs/opened your eyes and saw the pictures. you would realise how very wrong you are
For the rest of us-Cleans the negative thaughts circulating concentrate on your programs and grow grow grow!!!!
HAPPY GROWING LV gingerD
littlelibrarian
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NBE
October 16 2006, 5:25 PM
Good luck with your implants - did you see Dr. Phil the other day? There was a girl on the show who got implants and the disasterous job the surgeon did? I'd rather take herbs all my life than go through the 6 surgeries she did to end up going back to her original size, the scarring must be horrendous.
tms81
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Natural boobs here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 16 2006, 9:23 PM
Anonymous occasional lurker
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NBE not permanent
October 17 2006, 6:55 AM
"Wow! I can't believe it's been almost 3 years since I started on this adventure. I like to update ever so often, so here goes:
Mixed feelings here, so take this all with a grain of salt, okay? I no longer know what size I am since I quit wearing a bra some 5 months now. It got to be so painful and miserable that I've totally thrown them out. That's a whole different discussion.
I did measure, though, and underbust is 28 1/4" and over is 38", whatever size that is. It's been bout a year and half now, totally off everything. Still have the growth."
http://beboard.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=Routines&action=display&thread=1067723277&page=1
(Reply #3)
faerycat
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 17 2006, 12:40 PM
38 inches of boobage on a 28 inch ribcage.........and you/she has thrown away your/her bras? If I had 10 extra inches of boobage hanging over a 28" ribcage, I think I'd be needing a wheelbarrow to cart them around in....lol!
I keep having dreams of that happening.....that they just keep growing bigger and bigger and BIGGER and that they are way out in front and I'm jabbing into everyone and everything as I walk down the street. Then they drop and are dragging along the ground......YAGGO!......lolol!!!
Boy, hope that doesn't happen........lol!
Love
=^_~= x
gingerD
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 17 2006, 12:45 PM
Feary cat -LOL, Yv had me rolling,
my thaughts were of droopy Ds Ears(Cartoon Dog)
Please no affence ment to the bra burner
Courtney
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LOL
October 17 2006, 11:12 PM
hehehehehe,
38 inches of boob on a 28 inch rib cage, sorry but come on!!
1- I dont't believe you!!
2- Boobs that size need a home (i.e a bra!!)
Courtney xx
Courtney
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oops
October 17 2006, 11:14 PM
sorry girls i forgot......
Ashley, breasts implants are not permanent!!!!
Courtney xx
4pomegranate
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To Courtney
October 18 2006, 1:59 AM
Oh Courtney,
You better believe she's for real. Take a look at the link she posted. It'll take you to the Be board which she helped set up. There's a lot of valuable information there as well.
Michelle Choi
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yes she is for real
October 18 2006, 4:18 AM
yes, pammy is definitely for real girls. I saw her pics not too long ago whenever she had them posted on the beboard and she is super HUGE, they look very nice, actually fantastic in my opinion. I wish mine were like hers. Even on my 28" rib cage.
Michelle Choi
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Ditto!!
October 18 2006, 4:21 AM
DITTO!! and a big AMEN Courtney!! Implants are definitely not permanent, quick fix maybe, but not permanent Ashley. Been there and done that and would NEVER do it again that's for sure.
kiana
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Really?
October 18 2006, 8:46 AM
Hi Chelle choi... are you saying you have had implants and then did NBE. Really?? Can you please tell us about it??
tms81
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 18 2006, 11:40 AM
looks like Ashley dont have the guts to defend her self
Jen
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 18 2006, 12:15 PM
I think she was just trying to stir things up.
Hannah
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 18 2006, 8:30 PM
I laughed my ass off reading Coffeegirls response. You go girl!!! It's funny how this "Ashley" sure had alot to stay at first but hasn't responded back since the smack down. ha! ha! I have a friend who is an herbalist and he seems to think that growth acquired through NBE can be permanent if your breast tissue has had enough time growing. (Time span varies with each individual) I've had several friends who successfully achieved growth through NBE, & all of them have not lost any growth. I too believe that it is better to have your own natural breast rather than giving in to implants. Anything worth having is worth working for in my opinion.
Best wishes to everyone~
Hannah
Woober
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Breast Gain Plus WORKS!
October 23 2006, 5:33 AM
Just to let all of you know, natural breast enhancements DO work!!! I just started taking Breast Gain Plus ( which those of you should all try! ) and have only been on it for a week and two days and my breast have already started to fill out. My breast used to not be very round and now I have under-boob growth!!! this is so amazing and makes me feel better about my breasts!!! I am only eighteen( almost nineteen, haven't had children, and take birth control) and am very eager to get results, so i totally cut back on caffeine AND carbonated drinks (< SODA!!! I miss it!) It's hard to cut back on carbonated drinks but larger,rounder breast are soooo worth it!! Anywho I will indeed keep you all up to date on my progress and maintence after I stop taking BGP, which by the way IS proven to be PERMANENT! ( maybe that girl should go and do some more researching. oh well who cares about her and her soon to be fake boobs... mine are 100% natural B!tch!!! tee-he!)
Wild Flower
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 23 2006, 7:50 AM
Quite a number of girls in this forum have tried Breast Gain Plus, but you are only the second to report any results with it, so I think it's success rate must be pretty low. One thing that is strongly in your favour is age, as those that are still in their teens seem to get quicker results.
Lisa 121
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 23 2006, 10:24 AM
Woober, don't cheer too early, I took BGP for five montsh, for the last two I upped the dose because it just wouldn't work and I experienced the exact same thing as you did in the beginning, fullness within the first few weeks and so have others.
However, after that nothing happened and I did not grow, neither did the other women I have talked to, and neither did they keep the fullness once they stopped taking it.
Breast Gain Plus just doesn't have enough in it to work, the dosages of herbs are way too low to actually do anything for most girls.
I wish you luck but until you have seen actual permanent growth you may want to wait before advertising that product, it is really bad value for money and a rip off.
Hardly any girls on BGP have seen actual growth whereas Wonderup must have a success rate of around 90% and it is good valoue for money. If you experience what most of us have on BGP and you want to take a complete product and not single herbs then wonderup is worth a shot, but you should not recommend BGP to someone using Wonderup because they have a much better chance growing taking what they are now.
I managed to get my money back from BGP but the shipping cost of course I didn't and the wasted five months of taking it either. Since I have grown on single herbs, which are working well for me, and through this whole BGP thing I found this forum so it has benefited me in some way, but otherwise that company and product are just ridiculous.
Good luck and I hope that you are the exception to the rule and that you do see permanent growth.
Lisa
Alcest
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 23 2006, 2:18 PM
And what is this proven research that Breast Gain Plus works that you speak of? You say there is research, and yet you do not back it up with any data or links, just like Ashley did. I'm not trying to start anything, but it's fairly hypocritical...
gingerD
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 23 2006, 4:09 PM
girls-lets be right, if any of us have growth its somthing we want to shout from the roof tops, and let every one know, i think goober may have got carried away by saying bgp, is proven to last etc but all NBE products have a good sales patter attached to them, e.g 90% sucess rate.I mean for gods sake erdic guarantees its the only clinically proven breast enhancment other than breast implant-which simply is not true, and has been proven to not be true.
I agree bgp seem to have more negetive feed back than good, and can not comment on its effectivness as i have never used it-But give her a break if she is not a spammer (which i don't think she is) and she has grown-come on give her some encouragement, when i have had growth im extatic and when i hear of others growing im over the moon for them 2, so goober if you have grown,
WELL DONE AND CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! -lets keep teh moral going
P.s- Don't get 2 carried away with what NBE products "say they do" see what they actually do
gingerD
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 23 2006, 4:09 PM
oops woober
Anonymous
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 23 2006, 6:17 PM
Well said gingerd -
Jen
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October 23 2006, 6:46 PM
I have to agree with Wild Flower and Lisa. Growth in one week? You are definitely the exception for BGP. Good luck and keep us posted.
Miss Monet
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 24 2006, 6:05 AM
I've been on Breast Gain Plus for almost a week and I haven't experienced any growth, but I have had some mild pains in my breast. Perhaps that's a sign of growth stimulation? Let's hope so!
Congrats on your little growth spurt, though! It's encouraging to hear since I too am a BGP user. lol
Anonymous
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 25 2006, 4:09 AM
i took fenugreek, saw palmetto, wild yam, and fennel for 4 months and my 34B's grew to 34C's 6 months later my boob are back down to 34B's and my boobs look deflated and i am going to get breast implants to correct what i have done to myself please ladies do not mess up your perfect natural breasts or get breast implants
love nina
Anonymous
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To miss monet
October 25 2006, 9:07 PM
Yeah that's how my breasts felt... mild pains for about a week. I have fullness but it seems that I have only gained roundness under my left breast and the growth on my right breast is more on top (chest area)hopefully this will even out. But the growth is not like half a cup size or anything... my breast are just a little more round. I have faith in BGP though...still very excited (this is the first NBE I have taken though so... we'll see.... keep u guys posted, also Miss Monet let me know if you get any results from BGP, thanks!
_ Good luck to all of you_
Woober
cazza
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help
October 25 2006, 9:52 PM
for all of you who have had sucess with herbs can you please tell me which ones, ill give anything a go im so small i hate it, please help i would be so grateful to know.
js89
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October 26 2006, 12:15 AM
cazza - please start by checking out the personal programs page and pictures.
Miss Monet
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To Woober
October 26 2006, 7:30 AM
Yeah, I've been a little distraught lately, though, since A LOT of people seem to hate BGP and how it didn't give them any results. I've been seriously considering switching to WonderUp or Bountiful Breast. But, then again, I already paid $100 for my 2 month supply, and I've heard from several girls that BGP sucks at giving you a refund sooo I think I just might stick it out with BGP. I'll see what happens after my 2 months; if I get no results then I'll switch over to another company. I have started a new birth control pill as well (which contains a higher dosage of estrogen than my last) so hopefully that will help in my breast development! We'll see!
gingerD
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 26 2006, 9:17 AM
to nina-i dont want to sound funny with you, but you did have growth with herbs did you stop?-
And when you say you are having implants to correct what you have done, im sorry but i think you would have had the boob job regardless, i can't imaging that herbs and massage can difigure you that much that it forces you to have surgery & you r the only person i have read is going to do somthing so drastic because of the effects of NBE
sorry
Lisa121
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Re: NBE Is Not Permanent.
October 26 2006, 10:40 AM
I believe Nina just didn't take the herbs long enough for the growth to stay, to grow such a huge amount and then to stop after only four months means that you probably had a lot of swelling and maybe just bigger glands, all of which would have had to have the time to get replaced by fat which she just didn't give them.
I think it is a success story to grow that much in four months and I just think you need to take your herbs for another 2 months or so after gaining what you want to have gained, 1/2 inch of loss is normal because of swelling after stopping, so having a little extra before you stop isn't a bad idea.
jellyboobs
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NBE IS NOT PERMANENT ???!!!## WHAT THE ???
October 28 2006 at 1:09 AM
dear girls, im here to tell you that my D's are still waiving in the breeze !!! just like fawn and prettysoulful i think !!!!! our gorgeous boobs are still there and I would do all this again if neccesary !!! it's all worth it !!!!! ive lost weight which i needed to do and my boobs are still there !!! SO GO FOR IT GIRLS AND NEVER GIVE UP !!!!!! its just a matter of working out whats right for you and be prepared to persevere !!!!!!! love you all jellyDeeeee..... jellyboobs
