[wishfulthinking]

I have decided to lay off the herbs until I get back from holiday (02/09/10), as I am getting such bad headaches all the time. I am going to take Milk Thistle up until I go away (wednesday) just to detox a bit. My skin has been rubbish lately as well which may or may not be down to the herbs.
I'll definitely continue to massage though.

[Andy]

http://www.migraine101.com/phyto.htm
This link was on here a few month back. It was part of a thread on headaches from herbs. I want to say that it was posted by mel/itsjust4fun. you might want to see if you can find the thread. This link may explain your headaches. you may need to change herbs or cut back.
Hope this helps

[wishfulthinking]

Thanks so much Andy, I have been using an increased amount of Hops and Lavender Oil recently to help calm my anxiety, so that could explain it.
I use quite a low dosage of the other herbs but i'll try and single them out when I go back to it in a few weeks.
Thanks again for the information, it was really useful. x

[wishfulthinking]

Hello All! Soo it's been a few weeks since I stopped taking my herbs, and i'll be going into cycle 4 soon so I thought i'd update with my measurements before I start fresh again.

Upper Bust: 31.8" (+0.5" from last measurement -wow!)
Centre Bust: 31.4" (+0.2")
Lower Bust: 28.8" (+0.3")

I'm not quite sure how the hell this has happened really - I guess I was generous with the tape measure but it still sat comfortably on my skin so that's pretty awesome. I really was expected that my bust would have magically shrunk during the time that I stopped taking the herbs. Maybe i'll take some photos tomorrow for the end of the Cycle just to compare. I definitely felt a lot more confident this year in my bikinis, whether that was just because i've put a bit of weight on all round I don't know!

[trinaok]

Wow!!! Sounds like your having fun growing your boobies!!! I sure hope i will have some growth after Aunt flow leaves.... You've got a pretty good program going on here. As always keep us updated

dont give up!!!

[girlfriday29]

hi wishful,

you have the same stats as me. What will you be taking in your new program?

[wishfulthinking]

Hey girlfriday.
I'm not sure where I am going at the moment, I am on Day Two of my Cycle and at the moment I am just taking 1 x Vit B and 1 x Fenugreek capsule, and doing my massages.

I still have Saw Palmetto, MSM, and Amino Acid Complex Capsules to use up, so I will add them one by one to my programme again but i'm taking it slowly at the moment to try and see what are causing my headaches. I am considering adding Collagen to the equation too.

I think i'll use this month as a start up month again to find my feet, and then get properly into it next cycle. Much luck with yours x

[wishfulthinking]

As a bit of an update, I have gradually introduced:
1 x Fenugreek 610mg
1 x SP 450mg
1 x MSM 750mg (Includes Omega 3,6,9, Vit C and Vit E)
1 x Vit B Complex

I only reintroduced the Saw Palmetto today and I have experienced the most aches today since starting back on my programme. Up until now (so for the last 4 days) I haven't felt anything whatsoever. I also experienced really bad headaches on my first 3 days of the programme (which was when I started the Vit B and Fenugreek), but these seem to have died down now - the could also have been down to time of the month.

I think what i'll do differently this time is ramp my Saw Palmetto Capsules upto 2 per day first, rather than ramping the Fenugreek up like I did before. I still have my Amino Acid Capsules to add to my programme again yet, so i'll start that tomorrow and maybe give it until Saturday (Week 2 of this cycle) and then ramp it up one. I also want to ramp the MSM up by another capsule as the bottle recommends you take 3 a day, so I don't want to be using too little by only taking one.

I'll see how this all goes and then update in a week or so with my final programme.

[wishfulthinking]

End of week update measurements
Upper Bust: 31.6" (-0.2" since last measurement)
Centre Bust: 31.1" (-0.3" since last measurement)
Under Bust: 28.0" (-0.8" (!) since last measurement)

Okay, so last week's measurements must have been swelling from time of the month - cannot believe how much I have seemed to have gone down!
Ah well, i'll stay positive.

[wishfulthinking]

Been having mega aches these last 2 days, I think ramping the SP up to two capsules have really helped. I'm thinking of ramping it up to 3 capsules soon, just to see how it goes.
I'm also going to update with photos at the end of the cycle instead of the beginning, not sure why I didn't do this before but it makes sense really.
Lets hope the aches will continue.