[Little_B]

Hi guys!

Long time lurker on Breast Nexus, first time trying a program.

I'm 24. Caucasian, naturally skinny with a high metabolism. I'm a little bit of a gym rat so my weight fluctuates depending on how often I can go to the gym. I'm anywhere between 86 and 95 LBS. I went up to a 32B permanently a few years ago after getting off of Sprintec (personal bad experience with it. Uncontrollable mood swings! Would not recommend it. A lot of people gained crazy weight with it. I gained 12 pounds and my tiny body DID NOT carry it well. Took forever to lose!!!)

Just wanted to say:

Ellen is super helpful!!!! I messaged her several times while trying to figure out what I could buy, seeing as I'm in the US. I ended up with Bob's Red Mill Ground Flax Seed Meal because that's the only 'flax seed' ANYTHING I could find! The toasted full-fat soy was much, much harder to find! I went to Publix, Target, called my local GNC--about a million things. Bob's Red Mill makes a soy flour with fat but it's not toasted. There are videos on how to toast soy flour in a pot, though, and I did that. Amazon also sells a Vietnamese brand of toasted soy flour (I think it's Vietnamese) called Kinako.

I had to look online for all the conversions since the US has a different system but I do the flax seed and just enough water to make a slush or swirl it around in, drink that, and make the milk. Since I'm using two kinds of soy flour and conversions say 5 teaspoons equal 30grams, I do two teaspoons of the Kinako (it's a 5oz bag and I want to make it last), and three of the Bob's Red Mill.

I've done the flour and milk for three days now. I started the flax seed and water while waiting on my flour to arrive (so five days total). After the first day of adding the soy and milk to the regimen, the skin felt plumper. Not painful, but plumper. I felt the area and it was a little tender. Found the beginnings of red stretch marks on my breasts and started applying whatever kind of moisturizer I could find--this was Cetaphil Daily Moisturizer with Calendula for babies and Neutrogena Moisture Wrap Daily Lotion.

Until today, when I finally found and bought a small bottle of Bio Oil for about $14USD at my local Target.

I don't know what the future holds for me but I will stay with this program as long as I can.

I won't say it's all peachy-keen, though. I'm bloating terribly. I mean, AWFUL! I find it's minimized as long as I do my daily lower ab workout. It seemed to go down a little after I had a glass of orange juice and Amazing Grass Green Superfood powder I bought from GNC at the beginning of the month.

Don't know if that's related. I'm just on a quest for bigger boobies. I'm hoping this will work out for me but the bloat really worries me.

If anyone has any suggestions or tried alternate routines please let me know! I'm interested in creams and serums. I can't really take pills because I have an absolutely crap gag reflex. Taking flax seed and water is helping me learn to swallow with texture, though. Maybe that will help the gag reflex?

Here's hoping I gain a cup or two!

Note: right now I am breaking a rule. I'm trying to finish the half-carton of Lactaid I have in the fridge. It has 2% milk fat. I can't just throw away the milk! That's crazy! I'll probably finish it by tomorrow or the next day so as soon as I do I'll be implementing whole milk. I'll have an update at the end of the month.

[Noogooley]

Sooo here is my OWN update haha

I have completely stopped my program for a good reason. I wanted to see what happened if I stopped for you guys, I am sure some of you must be curious. 
Because this method is fun, but not intended to take for the rest of your life, I strongly believe it is not healthy, at least the toasted full fat soy then. 
I wanted to use this whole method to kind of kick-start my NBE, and go on other methods from that.

My growth had stalled at 32F on this method for a few months, and for the last 1.5 months I have not taken any flaxseed or soy.
My breasts have shrunken one cup size within two weeks after I stopped. So I am an 32E now, and has been stable for the last month, I have not felt anything, and no difference whatsoever after those two weeks.

So basically I have permanently grown my breasts 3 cupsizes with this method (from 32 B to 32E).


Which is awesome!

So since this week I am doing Noogleberry 4 hours a day.
Also I am trying to see maybe if I can get Spironolactone (testosterone blocker), since I have big muscles, Hirsutism (unwanted hairs), and also acne. Maybe I have PCOS, but we will see about that.
I also do deer massage 10 min a day
and I continue to try and increase my growth hormone, by sleeping earlier and reducing my belly fat.


Much love to you all! Ellen

yayy ellen im really glad that you are backk <3 btw is that you in the profile picture ? if yes then wooooow that is my goall !! so hapyy for you <3
but the fact that you lost a cup makes me sad a bit cause im thinking of taking a break so i can reactive the effects

[GoldenBoobs]

For the people who are experiencing bloating with the soy,  a lot of people have a soy intolerance. It is actually very common. I have digestive health issues so everything causes me to bloat up, including water. 

If you feel like you cannot deal with the bloating, try Iberogast! Drink it half an hour before taking the soy, right before, or during and it will help. At least it helps for me.

[Little_B]

Hi guys!

Long time lurker on Breast Nexus, first time trying a program.

I'm 24. Caucasian, naturally skinny with a high metabolism. I'm a little bit of a gym rat so my weight fluctuates depending on how often I can go to the gym. I'm anywhere between 86 and 95 LBS. I went up to a 32B permanently a few years ago after getting off of Sprintec (personal bad experience with it. Uncontrollable mood swings! Would not recommend it. A lot of people gained crazy weight with it. I gained 12 pounds and my tiny body DID NOT carry it well. Took forever to lose!!!)

Just wanted to say:

Ellen is super helpful!!!! I messaged her several times while trying to figure out what I could buy, seeing as I'm in the US. I ended up with Bob's Red Mill Ground Flax Seed Meal because that's the only 'flax seed' ANYTHING I could find! The toasted full-fat soy was much, much harder to find! I went to Publix, Target, called my local GNC--about a million things. Bob's Red Mill makes a soy flour with fat but it's not toasted. There are videos on how to toast soy flour in a pot, though, and I did that. Amazon also sells a Vietnamese brand of toasted soy flour (I think it's Vietnamese) called Kinako.

I had to look online for all the conversions since the US has a different system but I do the flax seed and just enough water to make a slush or swirl it around in, drink that, and make the milk. Since I'm using two kinds of soy flour and conversions say 5 teaspoons equal 30grams, I do two teaspoons of the Kinako (it's a 5oz bag and I want to make it last), and three of the Bob's Red Mill.

I've done the flour and milk for three days now. I started the flax seed and water while waiting on my flour to arrive (so five days total). After the first day of adding the soy and milk to the regimen, the skin felt plumper. Not painful, but plumper. I felt the area and it was a little tender. Found the beginnings of red stretch marks on my breasts and started applying whatever kind of moisturizer I could find--this was Cetaphil Daily Moisturizer with Calendula for babies and Neutrogena Moisture Wrap Daily Lotion.

Until today, when I finally found and bought a small bottle of Bio Oil for about $14USD at my local Target.

I don't know what the future holds for me but I will stay with this program as long as I can.

I won't say it's all peachy-keen, though. I'm bloating terribly. I mean, AWFUL! I find it's minimized as long as I do my daily lower ab workout. It seemed to go down a little after I had a glass of orange juice and Amazing Grass Green Superfood powder I bought from GNC at the beginning of the month.

Don't know if that's related. I'm just on a quest for bigger boobies. I'm hoping this will work out for me but the bloat really worries me.

If anyone has any suggestions or tried alternate routines please let me know! I'm interested in creams and serums. I can't really take pills because I have an absolutely crap gag reflex. Taking flax seed and water is helping me learn to swallow with texture, though. Maybe that will help the gag reflex?

Here's hoping I gain a cup or two!

Note: right now I am breaking a rule. I'm trying to finish the half-carton of Lactaid I have in the fridge. It has 2% milk fat. I can't just throw away the milk! That's crazy! I'll probably finish it by tomorrow or the next day so as soon as I do I'll be implementing whole milk. I'll have an update at the end of the month.

UPDATE (4/4/17)

I've stopped the program. Something made me super sick and I don't know what it was. We suspect it was food poisoning but I was violently ill from 5AM yesterday until nearly midnight. Because I don't know what made me sick, I couldn't take the risk of continuing the program. I find it hard to believe that anything--the soy flour especially--went bad that fast since I kept it refrigerated and sealed up, but who knows?

It makes me sad, too, because I think this program would've worked for me. For now I'm looking at other ways to increase my breast size. Thinking of trying a good cream or incorporating more breast-friendly food.

[Noogooley]

Sooo here is my OWN update haha

I have completely stopped my program for a good reason. I wanted to see what happened if I stopped for you guys, I am sure some of you must be curious. 
Because this method is fun, but not intended to take for the rest of your life, I strongly believe it is not healthy, at least the toasted full fat soy then. 
I wanted to use this whole method to kind of kick-start my NBE, and go on other methods from that.

My growth had stalled at 32F on this method for a few months, and for the last 1.5 months I have not taken any flaxseed or soy.
My breasts have shrunken one cup size within two weeks after I stopped. So I am an 32E now, and has been stable for the last month, I have not felt anything, and no difference whatsoever after those two weeks.

So basically I have permanently grown my breasts 3 cupsizes with this method (from 32 B to 32E).


Which is awesome!

So since this week I am doing Noogleberry 4 hours a day.
Also I am trying to see maybe if I can get Spironolactone (testosterone blocker), since I have big muscles, Hirsutism (unwanted hairs), and also acne. Maybe I have PCOS, but we will see about that.
I also do deer massage 10 min a day
and I continue to try and increase my growth hormone, by sleeping earlier and reducing my belly fat.


Much love to you all! Ellen

its actually more than 3 ! there is DD really happy for you ellen <3

[Noogooley]

GUYS AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDNT MIND THE SOY FLOUR TASTE ? I LIKE IT MORE THAN THE FLAXSEED
i either have bad taste or because i make it myself here is the link for everyone interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Wsa9ybvFo
there 2 ways in the video

[Noogooley]

so guys im now stopping drinking soya flour and flaxseed but i will be be back to the method after two weeks but in these two weeks ill be drinking full fat milk with 1tsp of anise and 1tsp of honey 3 times a day ( the milk will be hot ) and yeah hopefully that will work out for me

[kaliangel]

Thanks for the mention in yurban  thread miss Ellen! I would just like to correct one thing though, I have grown 4 cup sizes not 2 (British sizing goes F,FF,G,GG,H). Other than that I am honored to be mentioned 

hi Ellen hi everybody  is it made you gain a lot weight?(water retention & fat) I have being in and out because of that of my NbE program. I stared around july 2016 taken fenugreek and fennel  went from 35'' to 37'' by october 2016  then had to stoped it cuz i got pregnant didn't know i was while i was in but had  miss carried anyways so  I deflated to 36''. then stared taking BO TILL NOW cuz  i read it help to make round tuberous shape breast  so I'm like  perfect hehe ,well with massage they became  little bit fuller on top n round  but I feeling so heavy!! gain so much weigth 12 pounds ( I have kind of your characteristics (body etc..)  so I'm planning to try your method but dont want to gain more weight  please help me? (currently trying to lose that weight)

[kaliangel]

Please let me know if you are using this program in this thread!
Maybe you just started, or you have some extra tips or variations, or you changed your diet to something that works. That way we can all learn from it.
Plus I am soooo curious about anyone else who is using this! <3

hi Ellen   is it made you gain a lot weight?(water retention & fat) I have being in and out because of that of my NbE program. I stared around july 2016 taken fenugreek and fennel  went from 35'' to 37'' by october 2016  then had to stoped it cuz i got pregnant didn't know i was while i was in but had  miss carried anyways so  I deflated to 36''. then stared taking BO TILL NOW cuz  i read it help to make round tuberous shape breast  so I'm like  perfect hehe ,well with massage they became  little bit fuller on top n round  but I feeling so heavy!!  gain so much weigth 12 pounds ( I have kind of your characteristics (body etc..)  so I'm planning to try your method but dont want to gain more weight  please help me? (currently trying to lose that weight)

[James98]

Fenugreek will add fat all over your body, it does not have any innate ability to target your breasts. You might get better success if you use fenugreek oil and massage it into your breasts instead of pills.