Brava photo
April 21 2009 at 3:48 PM roakie (Login roakie)
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I was looking through some of the photos on the website.
This one sure looks like implants to me, especially looking at the upper edges of the breast. I would hope Brava wouldn't have false advertising but I can't help but wonder when I see this! What do you think?
I want to believe in Brava so I would love to believe this much growth can truly occur, but I am really curious given how much fullness she has in the upper breast.
http://www.mybrava.com/story-cheryl.asp
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 21 2009, 6:35 PM
Roakie--
I know what you mean, but I DO believe it, that's what my boobs look like. I looked just like her in the before and now I have upper breast tissue, and when I have a padded underwire bra/bathing suit (like she no doubt does) that's what my boobs look like. From the side view, my boobs don't stick out much farther, my growth is all up top in the cleavage area. The only thing I probably wouldn't believe is if she said she got that in 10 weeks! i didn't look to see how long she used the system.
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roakie
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 21 2009, 8:24 PM
Wow, Stacy! That is awesome for you to look so va-va-voom!
What do you think about using NG domes to develop more tissue close to the sternum? I have such a wide expanse and visible ribs between my breasts that I would like to work on that. I guess that is another reason some women use both Brava and NG so that they can work on cleavage without the impedance of those darn silicone rims that are so bulky in the middle.
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 21 2009, 9:29 PM
I think I may give it a shot....I am going to Bermuda for a week, after that I may order it. It would be nice to have some of that swelling even when you aren't using Brava. It sounds a bit painful to me (I have read some threads where people can't take the pressure and are looking for something to pad the domes) and I am not sure I could do it EVERY day, but if doing it a few times a week helps, I may try! If I could actually get growth from it, I may give up brava!
I don't feel va-voom, but that's because I am used to the swelling from the domes, when I am a full D in the morning!!!!!!
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tr1gger
(Login tr1gger) Re: Brava photo April 22 2009, 4:52 AM
Wow. A D cup seems unimaginable. I understand what you mean about the disapointment when the swelling goes down. Even going from a very full A (possibly B) back to a regular A is hard (even though I started AA)!
On the noogle idea, all many ladies do is pump a few times a week to keep their breasts wonderfully pumped up. Especially when they've gotten to your stage. They also keep growing! You would definitely get more growth in the cleavage area too. Many women attest to this, and some put their pictures up on the noogle site. I think I'll continue to do it every day or so, when I've done this brava cycle. And it's not as uncomfortable as you imagine. For me, who has to go hell for leather with everything, I could tend to pump very hard and it would sometimes be uncomfortable, but you are in complete control of it, so it's up to you how long and how hard you pump. Also, there are padding options available. Women on the site are just very experimental, and are always coming up with new ideas.
Let us know what you do!!
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J.J.
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 22 2009, 5:44 AM
I thought the same thing Roakie! They look very nice, but almost too nice to be real. I think she wrote that she used Brava for almost a full year (?) That is a long time. But actually her photo and her story that were a part of what convinced me to try this...
Hope things are progressing for you also.
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 22 2009, 1:55 PM
I went back and looked at her story and wow-she went a long time! That is determination! I found her pictures totally believable after I found out she used for almost a year.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava photo April 22 2009, 3:58 PM
I am at 25 weeks and just about an inch bigger after 12 hours. I am beginning to feel like this might not work very well on menopausal women. If I lose a half-inch to an inch after a week off Brava, I would be right back to where I started. Isn't the principle supposed to be that when you are to the size you want, you simply need to do the same amount of time to retain it? That would put me several years out!
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Anet
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 23 2009, 3:44 PM
Roakie, do you have any children?
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava photo April 23 2009, 7:06 PM
Hi, Anet!
Yes, I have three adult children. All were breastfed for at least six months, my boobs got up to a large B, small C, and then went right back down! I am almost 54 years old and have always been very flat except for pregnancy and nursing, so this might be a long road for me.
Still trying, though.
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Anet
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 24 2009, 3:45 AM
Is your swelling in the morning same every time? My swelling has gone down, I don't know why.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava photo April 24 2009, 7:43 AM
I had periods where my swelling was far less than usual. I think I ordered new domes after about 12 weeks because they would no longer stick no matter how much skin prep I used and I would lose too much air. I am starting to get this same problem now with these domes as well. They gap under the arms, even though I press them in with my thumbs when I am creating suction. After about 4 hours, they pop off under the arms as soon as I move and I have to suction them on again.
With that said, this is another reason I ordered the Noogleberry pump. It just seems to pull out more air than I could do manually, and I am able to get much better swelling on a consistent basis.
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elusia
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava photo April 24 2009, 11:07 AM
Rokie:
"I am at 25 weeks and just about an inch bigger after 12 hours. I am beginning to feel like this might not work very well on menopausal women. If I lose a half-inch to an inch after a week off Brava, I would be right back to where I started. Isn't the principle supposed to be that when you are to the size you want, you simply need to do the same amount of time to retain it? That would put me several years out!"
Elusia:
1 inch! Yahoo! That's wonderful news!! I know it's taken a very long time (25 weeks) instead of 5-10 weeks like you were probably hoping, but still, I think this is great! It wasn't many weeks ago that you said you only retained about 1/4 inch, so that's a great progress and gives me loads of hope ; )) If you'd stop now, then you probably wouldn't get to keep it, but you won't need to keep going for years in order to keep it, just a lousy 25 weeks...How much are you swelling now? I wonder how much this is due to the chicken feet soup and how much is actually brava, since I only do brava....
Also, it does not have to be that it has to take as long as 25 weeks: when I look at Cousin Rose's personal program pages I notice that she retained 5 cm after 9 weeks, and she kept going only 3 more weeks (correct me if I'm wrong, Cousin Rose!) but she still kept the 5 cm!! Now I know that she her body responds very differently than yours and mine, so I'm not saying that that will happen to us, but it's interesting to keep in mind, I think ; )
My body seems to be about as stubborn as yours, now at week 11 I still have the same "results" at the end of the day as I had week 4, that is between 1/4 to 1/2 inch and my patience is really tested! You are such an inspiration to me, I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have you and your persistance to think about.
This message has been edited by elusia on Apr 24, 2009 11:13 AM
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava photo April 24 2009, 4:17 PM
Hi, Elusia!
Thanks SO much for the encouragement. That is just what I need to keep going. Well, I am actually starting to see some actual breasts now! I have added a few things to my Brava routine, and for the first time, I am thinking I might have to order the wide/large domes!
This is what I have done in the past few weeks.
1. I ordered the noogleberry hand pump. This has given me far more swelling than manual suction or the smartbox. I think I was headed nowhere. For me, I need that additional boost of larger swelling. I never pump more than my breasts can stand. I don't pump till they are purple or till the domes roll in. I just try to get some great swelling over the course of the 12-14 hours.
2. I started the chicken feet soup. I buy frozen chicken feet at the local Asian store. They were pretty gross the first time I saw them, but now I see the value. I am not doing this just for my breasts. I am also doing it because my skin is quite flabby and I can really see my aging in my face, etc. I hope the collagen-rich broth will help me to have some nicer skin over time.
I rinse the 24-28 chicken feel in warm water, stick them in a pot covered with about an inch of water, and boil them for about 45 minutes. I then simmer them, skim off any frothy grey matter, and after about 2 hours when they have cooked down a bit, I take them out with tongs, put them on a cutting board, and use a sharp knife to cut them in half to open up some of the bones. Then I put them back in, add a bit more water, and simmer them for about another hour. I take the feet out and throw them away, place a collander over a bowl and pour the broth through that. When it is partially cool, I put it all in a plastic container and store it in the refrigerator. This makes seven servings.
3. I have started putting 1/4 - 1/2 a tsp of cayenne pepper into the heated chicken feet broth, and I sip this each morning. The cayenne does burn my lips and I am gradually getting used to it. I have read SO many good things about cayenne, including its benefits for circulation, the heart and the digestion, that I am willing to make this part of my life, now.
Those are the three changes I have made in the past two weeks. I am halfway through week 25! Domes are falling off about 3-4 times a session due to sweat and the lack of stickiness. This happened with my last set, also. It is a pain in the neck!
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J.J.
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 25 2009, 4:52 PM
Congrats Roakie! Something that almost sort of looks like breasts is a great thing. I started with nothing also, and after gaining somewhere between an inch and an inch and a half (after full day with domes off) I started to feel like I had something that might qualify as breasts. Even little breasts are better than none. When you start with nothing then even a two inch gain is probably only going to get you an A cup (this is based on my results thus far. An inch and a half is nowhere near growing out of a padded 36A). But realistically, going from nothing to a full A cup is probably just a lot harder than going from a full A to a full B.
I think Elusia is right, it may not be the case that you have to go a full year just to keep what you have now. There is definitely a great deal of person specific variation that goes on. Some people don't get much results with just 10 weeks of Brava only, and may need more herbs/diet changes/additional pumping methods. But actually, I think I read somewhere that the swelling loss after you stop is about 20% of the total gained, so you wouldn't necessarily lose a full inch. It kind of depends upon how the gain is distribued around the area you are measuring, I would guess.
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Anet
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 26 2009, 10:22 PM
Roakie, I think the reason your domes are coming off and you have a lot of sweat, is because you are using a manual pump instead of the sportbox. My domes are very tight and every time air comes in, the sportbox takes the air out. Do you still have your sportbox? Maybe you should try it one night to see if the sweating is still the same.
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Rox3
(no login) Re: Brava photo April 26 2009, 10:31 PM
I'm having the same experience as Anet. I use the sportbox and it's very tight, rarely goes off in the middle of the night, and in the morning I usually have to pry the domes off. They have never fallen off...but I'm not a sweater either. I rarely sweat even when exercising. I'm using the Fruit of the Earth aloe vera gel ever since the no-sting pads ran out and it's only $4 but works well to create the seal.
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roakie
(Login roakie)
SENIOR MEMBER Re: Brava photo April 27 2009, 2:05 AM
I had this problem with the domes even with the smartbox once the stickiness started to wear off. Basically, the sweat wouldn't be such a big problem but I am having a harder and harder time getting the domes to stay stuck underneath my arms. As the domes wear out, they tend to lose so much stickiness and the silicone rims seem to mash up so much with manual suction that they pop off under the arms the minute I move. The only time they stay stuck is for the first few hours. Then it becomes a never-ending battle!
Actually, I have a brand new set of wide/medium domes that I have never used but I am thinking of selling them since I believe I might soon need the larger size. My nipples are getting closer to the end and if I plan to go another 25 weeks, I might just need a bigger size. Otherwise, I could use the new ones and not have this problem.
I'm wondering just how realistic those results are (especially the ones who haven't had any kids). I noticed that a lot of those ladies wore Brava for way under 20 weeks. I'm thinking those are the "best of the best" outcomes, I don't know. The results those people got in such short wear times almost seem too good to be true! What do you think??