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September 27th, 2007, 5:30 pm #1 2007-09-27T16:30
I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?
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i believe i posted this information on here already and even gave you the link for it. this is what Ainterol sent me on that info and it does have miroestrol and it is quite similar to that of st. herb. and its per 100mg, not 1000mg
oops. forgot to add this link. this is St. Herbs HPLC test results. almost identical to Ainterol.
http://www.stherb.com/Importer/hplc.html
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September 28th, 2007, 9:31 am #4 2007-09-28T08:31
I did read all of your links before posting this information. I posted it because the info Ainterol sent to me seems to be completely different from the info the sent to you. The levels they gave to you are:
miroestrol: 40.53 - 42.10 mg/100 mg
daidzin: 6.85 - 8.10 mg/100 mg
daidzein: 4.95 - 5.80 mg/100 mg
genistin: 1.19 - 1.30 mg/100 mg.
These are the levels listed on the label they sent me:
daidzin: 0.40 mg/1000 mg
daidzein: 0.074 mg/1000 mg
genistin: 0.088 mg/1000 mg
genistein: 0.015 mg/1000 mg
puerarin: 0.62 mg/1000 mg
Miroestrol is not included in the list, although puerarin and geinistein are. Also, if we divide the amounts by 100 to get the amount of each phytoestrogen per 100 mg, we actually have to move the decimal place to the left two places, which makes the amounts less, not more.
I'm curious... did they send you the label also? Do you have different information listed on the labels on the products you ordered? This just seems really strange to me... If you're interested in taking a look, I can forward the document they sent me with the label to you.
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Dear ainterol,
I belong to a natural breast enhancement forum and another women inquired you about this product. You seem to have sent her different information than you sent me.
What you sent me:
miroestrol: 40.53 - 42.10 mg/100 mg
daidzin: 6.85 - 8.10 mg/100 mg
daidzein: 4.95 - 5.80 mg/100 mg
genistin: 1.19 - 1.30 mg/100 mg.
What you sent her:
daidzin: 0.40 mg/1000 mg
daidzein: 0.074 mg/1000 mg
genistin: 0.088 mg/1000 mg
genistein: 0.015 mg/1000 mg
puerarin: 0.62 mg/1000 mg
Is there an explaination for this? And what is the actual HPLC test results, please?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is what they said:
First given are informal ranges where PM levels should be in it's performance (meaning generally always targeted. The last lines are actual mg's (as referred to range levels too) which is in products. All last given are based on HPLC based test.
- ainterol
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"All our powders are within these values.
Miroestrol is between 40.53-42.10mg/100gm (with HPLC method).
Daidzin 6.85-8.10mg/100gm (with HPLC method).
Daidzein 4.95-5.80mg/100gm (with HPLC method).
Genistin 1.19-1.30mg/100gm (with HPLC method)."
This is info that you sent me when I asked about the potency of miroestrol in your product. Are you saying that this information is incorrect and there is actually little to no effective value of any of the contents of your PM? You just responded to me that the ACTUAL values of your product are as follows:
daidzin: 0.40 mg/1000 mg
daidzein: 0.074 mg/1000 mg
genistin: 0.088 mg/1000 mg
genistein: 0.015 mg/1000 mg
puerarin: 0.62 mg/1000
Miroestrol is not listed here. If I do not get an honest answer I am going to go elsewhere for PM and I will let others know about the info you have shared.
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- ainterol
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So what is your opinion on this? Am I missing something? I don't know what to think about all this crap.
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September 29th, 2007, 5:38 pm #11 2007-09-29T16:38
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September 29th, 2007, 5:42 pm #12 2007-09-29T16:42
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oh, i found this information about PM.
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/docket ... vol162.pdf
compared to what i read there, ainterols compound levels are much higher.
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so on the first set of numbers (the one you refer to as the target)converts this way:
Miroestrol 40.53-42.10mg/100gm(grams) = 0.4053-0.4210mg/1000mg
Daidzin 6.85-8.10mg/100gm(grams) = 0.0685-0.0810mg/1000mg
Daidzein 4.95-5.80mg/100gm(grams) = 0.0495-0.0580mg/1000mg
Genistin 1.19-1.30mg/100gm(grams) = 0.0119-0.0130mg/1000mg
I don't know anything about mirifica or whether this is a good amount or not. I am just converting the figures for you. Hope that helps some.
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May 7th, 2008, 8:20 pm #16 2008-05-07T19:20
I've just bought some ainterol pm (500mg x2 a day- 1000 mg) and before I start taking it I wanted to see whether anyone has had any success/any side effects since you began.
Thanks
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December 31st, 2008, 5:31 pm #18 2008-12-31T17:31
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December 31st, 2008, 7:11 pm #19 2008-12-31T19:11
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January 1st, 2009, 2:32 am #20 2009-01-01T02:32
I hope Alison does not come back to post these silly lies that Ainterols PM works. Lastly, one should not be taking PM everyday, that goes against the natural laws of your body. There is the estrogen phase and the progesterone phase. Why would you take estrogen during an estrogen phase AND progesterone phase?
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January 1st, 2009, 8:07 am #22 2009-01-01T08:07
plus Ainterol is a $h!t product.
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i've gone from a 34B to a 34C, and already passed the recessive "shrinking" phase. now they're just always C.
i wasn't seeing any growth until i started taking PM. i also use the spray.
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January 6th, 2009, 2:29 pm #24 2009-01-06T14:29
The increase you got was probably not from using the PM. I, as well as others, have found Ainterol's PM to be completely ineffective. You are using herbs as well, which many girls on this forum have used with great success. Did it ever occur to that maybe it is the herbs you are taking that gave you the increase and not the PM? You cannot even know where your growth is coming from becuase you are taking more than one thing. But, I can tell you where your growth is not coming from : AINTEROLS PM. Why? Because it doe not contain the main ingredients that are in every other PM. The main ingredients that allow you to grow : Miroestrol and Deoxymiroestrol. They are also other ingredients that they are missing too. I can't believe that a company would sell PM, making girls think that they can grow. I have used it without ANY increase at all. I have used many other products and grown on all of them, EXCEPT for the Ainterol PM.
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I've ordered the ainterol capsules (3 bottles..6months worth..not to expensive) and am almost done with my 1st bottle..I've only noticed some firmness..no big signs of growth..I only purchased the pills after talking to some ppl who've been taking them..I got good feed back so I figured why not..anyways..I've also been using a PM spray that came w/ the pills and just started using a PM breast soap that somebody "swore by"..now my question is has anyone seen any results from using the pills plus the sprays and soaps? And I read the recent posts about how ainterol is crap and now I kinda feel stupid for buying it (my 1st time trying any kind of breast enlargment products)..so what kind of herbs should I get to get some kind of results???..I'm only a 32 A (barely) and am super frustated w/ them..I'm sick of being self concious but plastic surgery is really out of the question..if anybody could help me out plz email me at chicitina87@tmail.com...thanks so much..and I wish everyone tons of luck with there boobie woes..
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January 10th, 2009, 6:39 am #26 2009-01-10T06:39
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January 13th, 2009, 2:24 am #27 2009-01-13T02:24
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Ainterol Doesn't Work
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January 13th, 2009, 3:53 am #29 2009-01-13T03:53
First of all, PM of any kind should not be taken everyday. Only days 1-14, or some other variation. Secondly, ainterol PM is MISSING the KEY ingredient that actually makes your breast grow. If it is missing your breasts will NOT grow. This is like taking pain medicine without the ingredient that actually takes away the pain. Why would anyone do that? That is same thing as buying Ainterol.
I grew taking herbs, I grew taking BO, heck I even grew taking EPO, and very quickly on all NBE methods. I probably will grow on PM just not Ainterol's PM. Because it is completely ineffective. I feel conned for having tried it.
If anyone is thinking of PM, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THE AINTEROL BRAND! It does nothing to enhance your breast. I know because I used it for about 4 months with no results at all, not even fullness.
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September 27th, 2007, 5:30 pm #1 2007-09-27T16:30
I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?
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i believe i posted this information on here already and even gave you the link for it. this is what Ainterol sent me on that info and it does have miroestrol and it is quite similar to that of st. herb. and its per 100mg, not 1000mg
oops. forgot to add this link. this is St. Herbs HPLC test results. almost identical to Ainterol.
http://www.stherb.com/Importer/hplc.html
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Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?i also noticed that the information they gave you is in the thousants, thats why is seems so low. move the decimal point to the right and thats what you get per 100mg
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September 28th, 2007, 9:31 am #4 2007-09-28T08:31
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Hi KittyCharlette,
me-too.
I did read all of your links before posting this information. I posted it because the info Ainterol sent to me seems to be completely different from the info the sent to you. The levels they gave to you are:
miroestrol: 40.53 - 42.10 mg/100 mg
daidzin: 6.85 - 8.10 mg/100 mg
daidzein: 4.95 - 5.80 mg/100 mg
genistin: 1.19 - 1.30 mg/100 mg.
These are the levels listed on the label they sent me:
daidzin: 0.40 mg/1000 mg
daidzein: 0.074 mg/1000 mg
genistin: 0.088 mg/1000 mg
genistein: 0.015 mg/1000 mg
puerarin: 0.62 mg/1000 mg
Miroestrol is not included in the list, although puerarin and geinistein are. Also, if we divide the amounts by 100 to get the amount of each phytoestrogen per 100 mg, we actually have to move the decimal place to the left two places, which makes the amounts less, not more.
I'm curious... did they send you the label also? Do you have different information listed on the labels on the products you ordered? This just seems really strange to me... If you're interested in taking a look, I can forward the document they sent me with the label to you.
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Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?no they did not send that label to me. when i got the powder it did not have an of this information on it. all it says is where it came from, the size of the bottle, and that it is pure pueraria mirifica (grade A). but i must say, this stuff isn't weak. my period was 3 weeks late and it only came because i began to cycle.
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Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?I e-mailed them and asked about this. But I just thought of something... Did they send you the info for Pueraira Mirifica (white kwao kreu) or BUTEA SUPERBA Powder (red kwao kreu). Just to be sure?
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Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?This is the e-mail i sent:
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Dear ainterol,
I belong to a natural breast enhancement forum and another women inquired you about this product. You seem to have sent her different information than you sent me.
What you sent me:
miroestrol: 40.53 - 42.10 mg/100 mg
daidzin: 6.85 - 8.10 mg/100 mg
daidzein: 4.95 - 5.80 mg/100 mg
genistin: 1.19 - 1.30 mg/100 mg.
What you sent her:
daidzin: 0.40 mg/1000 mg
daidzein: 0.074 mg/1000 mg
genistin: 0.088 mg/1000 mg
genistein: 0.015 mg/1000 mg
puerarin: 0.62 mg/1000 mg
Is there an explaination for this? And what is the actual HPLC test results, please?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is what they said:
First given are informal ranges where PM levels should be in it's performance (meaning generally always targeted. The last lines are actual mg's (as referred to range levels too) which is in products. All last given are based on HPLC based test.
- ainterol
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 1:23 am September 28th, 2007, 5:49 pm #8 2007-09-28T16:49
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?"PM is harvested basicly all year long. During this time of the year is the most harvested time when all other fruits are ready...."
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"All our powders are within these values.
Miroestrol is between 40.53-42.10mg/100gm (with HPLC method).
Daidzin 6.85-8.10mg/100gm (with HPLC method).
Daidzein 4.95-5.80mg/100gm (with HPLC method).
Genistin 1.19-1.30mg/100gm (with HPLC method)."
This is info that you sent me when I asked about the potency of miroestrol in your product. Are you saying that this information is incorrect and there is actually little to no effective value of any of the contents of your PM? You just responded to me that the ACTUAL values of your product are as follows:
daidzin: 0.40 mg/1000 mg
daidzein: 0.074 mg/1000 mg
genistin: 0.088 mg/1000 mg
genistein: 0.015 mg/1000 mg
puerarin: 0.62 mg/1000
Miroestrol is not listed here. If I do not get an honest answer I am going to go elsewhere for PM and I will let others know about the info you have shared.
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 1:23 am September 28th, 2007, 5:51 pm #9 2007-09-28T16:51
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?now im getting pissed off >=O
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 1:23 am September 28th, 2007, 6:08 pm #10 2007-09-28T17:08
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?First of all that first set as you can see are the values targeted during process for good potency and per 100gm. The other set is given in value of 1000mg which means 2 capsules. There are no any "between values" in stickers in capsule containers. We are not listing all tiny parts what it has while it's not done by anyone nor required by law. Furthermore, in capsule packings (sticker) has info of dietary fiber, protein, calcium and energy level as well. More than required by law or any other manufacturer inform. I don't understand your seek for honerst answer while all answers are in your hands already. You can freely share your info in any forum as you like to. Feel free to use other manufactured products too.
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So what is your opinion on this? Am I missing something? I don't know what to think about all this crap.
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September 29th, 2007, 5:38 pm #11 2007-09-29T16:38
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Jeez... this sounds really strange and unclear. It sounds like the info they sent you in the beginning is indeed the ideal target amount of phytoestrogens in pueraria mirifica, and the amounts they sent me are actual. But if that's the case then there is really nothing in their PM! It's also really strange then that it messed up your period... I'm going to try to copy and paste the info the sent me into a message below so you can see it as well.
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September 29th, 2007, 5:42 pm #12 2007-09-29T16:42
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Well, that doesn't seem to work. I read the info again and it is the 'label info for distributors' and it is definitely for pueraria mirifica. I've posted my e-mail address above (not my usual address) so that you can mail me privately if you'd like and I can forward the info to you. I find this really disturbing... and I'm wondering what other possible reason there could be for your period being so late, if there isn't even any miroestrol and hardly any other phytoestrogens in Ainterol PM. I'm going to keep researching and see if I come up with anything new.
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 1:23 am September 30th, 2007, 3:24 am #13 2007-09-30T02:24
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?i emailed you
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 1:23 am September 30th, 2007, 10:14 pm #14 2007-09-30T21:14
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?thanks for the email. im still not sure what to think of this. however, i do not think their pm is as weak as you might think. of course, im talking about the missed periods. so obviously, SOMETHING is going on. i don't know. im still trying to figure this thing out. anyone else have any opinions?
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oh, i found this information about PM.
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/docket ... vol162.pdf
compared to what i read there, ainterols compound levels are much higher.
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Joined: June 7th, 2007, 1:10 am October 1st, 2007, 7:47 pm #15 2007-10-01T18:47
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?the first set is how many mg per 100 GRAMs (not per 100 milligrams). the second set is mg per 1000mg (not grams) that is why it seems so off. You have to move the decimal point the other way (to the left). It is actually not that far off. 1g = 1000mg; 100g = 100,000mg; so you would move decimal two places to the LEFT on the mg/100grams to set it equivilant to the mg/1000mg.
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so on the first set of numbers (the one you refer to as the target)converts this way:
Miroestrol 40.53-42.10mg/100gm(grams) = 0.4053-0.4210mg/1000mg
Daidzin 6.85-8.10mg/100gm(grams) = 0.0685-0.0810mg/1000mg
Daidzein 4.95-5.80mg/100gm(grams) = 0.0495-0.0580mg/1000mg
Genistin 1.19-1.30mg/100gm(grams) = 0.0119-0.0130mg/1000mg
I don't know anything about mirifica or whether this is a good amount or not. I am just converting the figures for you. Hope that helps some.
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May 7th, 2008, 8:20 pm #16 2008-05-07T19:20
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Hi girls
me-too.
I've just bought some ainterol pm (500mg x2 a day- 1000 mg) and before I start taking it I wanted to see whether anyone has had any success/any side effects since you began.
Thanks
Kerry
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May 20th, 2008, 6:45 pm #17 2008-05-20T17:45
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Assuming those figures are correct, .4mg/g of miroestrol solution means the .04% preparation is roughly equal in effect to a 200mg/g solution of estriol. (Pure miroestrol is at least 500x as strong as estriol in stimulating breast growth.)
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December 31st, 2008, 5:31 pm #18 2008-12-31T17:31
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Hi, I say Ainterol products are best because I tried everything else and it has the fastest best an most results with no side effects. Also that Ainterol natural PM Products are 100% pure and contain no chemicals, preservatives and no animal materials. Only 100% pure Pueraria Mirifica. And that IS the only ingredient that it needs to work. Thank you. HTTP://WWW.PUREHERBALBEAUTY.COM
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December 31st, 2008, 7:11 pm #19 2008-12-31T19:11
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Wow ok, alison. You seem a lil TOO enthusiastic about Ainterol and then you put the address to buy the product in all caps... Almost seems like spam to me.
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January 1st, 2009, 2:32 am #20 2009-01-01T02:32
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?I have used Ainterol PM and it is wild grown. Furthermore, it is not effective in breast enlargement and there are other ingredients like miroestrol and deoxymiroestrol that are needed. Ainterol does not contain these ingredients plus others. Alison is probably someone who works for the company so that is why she is telling these lies. Almost every member on this forum that tried Ainterols PM has not had ANY increase. I think it is wrong to sell products like PM in a deceiving way like this. I would not have spent my money on PM if I would have known this months ago. I am warning others do not be fooled by the low prices! In this case, the low price is a representation of the low quality, wild grown, and ineffective PM.
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I hope Alison does not come back to post these silly lies that Ainterols PM works. Lastly, one should not be taking PM everyday, that goes against the natural laws of your body. There is the estrogen phase and the progesterone phase. Why would you take estrogen during an estrogen phase AND progesterone phase?
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Joined: June 24th, 2008, 10:13 am January 1st, 2009, 4:18 am #21 2009-01-01T04:18
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?thank God I read this. I was just about to order some ainterol to ring in the new year. I was originally going to order from pm.co.uk but feared the shipping process....But after reading this, I'll go with the original plan and stick with what has worked with Katie...pm.co.uk it is
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January 1st, 2009, 8:07 am #22 2009-01-01T08:07
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?If you scroll over Alison's name, her email address pops up: pureherbalbeauty@yahoo.com
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plus Ainterol is a $h!t product.
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Joined: December 12th, 2008, 4:41 pm January 6th, 2009, 3:17 am #23 2009-01-06T03:17
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?i've been taking ainterol (though along with other herbs) and i've seen some pretty nice growth. a lot more than i expected, in fact.
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i've gone from a 34B to a 34C, and already passed the recessive "shrinking" phase. now they're just always C.
i wasn't seeing any growth until i started taking PM. i also use the spray.
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January 6th, 2009, 2:29 pm #24 2009-01-06T14:29
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Nik1,
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The increase you got was probably not from using the PM. I, as well as others, have found Ainterol's PM to be completely ineffective. You are using herbs as well, which many girls on this forum have used with great success. Did it ever occur to that maybe it is the herbs you are taking that gave you the increase and not the PM? You cannot even know where your growth is coming from becuase you are taking more than one thing. But, I can tell you where your growth is not coming from : AINTEROLS PM. Why? Because it doe not contain the main ingredients that are in every other PM. The main ingredients that allow you to grow : Miroestrol and Deoxymiroestrol. They are also other ingredients that they are missing too. I can't believe that a company would sell PM, making girls think that they can grow. I have used it without ANY increase at all. I have used many other products and grown on all of them, EXCEPT for the Ainterol PM.
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Joined: January 9th, 2009, 8:32 am January 9th, 2009, 8:37 am #25 2009-01-09T08:37
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Hi everybody
me-too.
I've ordered the ainterol capsules (3 bottles..6months worth..not to expensive) and am almost done with my 1st bottle..I've only noticed some firmness..no big signs of growth..I only purchased the pills after talking to some ppl who've been taking them..I got good feed back so I figured why not..anyways..I've also been using a PM spray that came w/ the pills and just started using a PM breast soap that somebody "swore by"..now my question is has anyone seen any results from using the pills plus the sprays and soaps? And I read the recent posts about how ainterol is crap and now I kinda feel stupid for buying it (my 1st time trying any kind of breast enlargment products)..so what kind of herbs should I get to get some kind of results???..I'm only a 32 A (barely) and am super frustated w/ them..I'm sick of being self concious but plastic surgery is really out of the question..if anybody could help me out plz email me at chicitina87@tmail.com...thanks so much..and I wish everyone tons of luck with there boobie woes..
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January 10th, 2009, 6:39 am #26 2009-01-10T06:39
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?well i've been taking ainterol pm pills for 11 months, with the extra-strong sprays! i did doubt about taking pm everyday, because other brands don't seem to advise doing do. sent couple of emails to ainterol to clear up my doubts, but they insisted it is the best way to do so. so i decided to trust ainterol and take it twice everyday as instructed,without any breaks. results? NO growth at all, with plentiful side effects. i even missed my period for 6 months! it freaks me out really. then i tried to follow the 14/14 rule. but no changes to my breasts anyway. although my period returns after the break but it is totally screwed up until now. fyi i have been using the breast sprays (extra-strong 20% pm content as ainterol claims) along with the pills, twice a day. so you can imagine how much i've been spending on this crap. so please - don't even think about it. in this forum you may refer to many experiences of those who had been on ainterol pm. it is definitely ineffective. i still have plenty of those left, but i would rather discard it than harming myself. thank you.
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January 13th, 2009, 2:24 am #27 2009-01-13T02:24
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Hi everyone! I just want to say that I feel everyone's pain and joy and that I also have taken Ainterol PM. The active ingredient in the product is the PM and I personally have had great results. Yes at first my period got really heavy the first month then every month after that was a one to two day very very light period which to me is not a side effect but it was a blessing. My period used to be really heavy and painful now that I am on my first 6 week break after 6 months of taking PM my periods have evened out and there are no cramps anymore. I really appreciate the product just for this. Also my skin used to be covered in acne and in the first week of taking the product that cleared up and my acne scars are disappearing nicely. Now just every now and then a day or two before my period and single blemish may pop up and go away with no problem. I experienced no side effects with the products. I used the three bottle set of PM and the breast spray and extract. I ate 3 good well balanced meals including meat. I waited for my breasts to grow. At first I experienced some firmness which I though was growth, it was very noticeable with my breasts because I started out as a 32A cup now after my first treatment I am a full B cup. I intend to resume the treatment after the break to get another cup size. I did at first get a little more energy than usual, but I started taking one capsule a day with a glass of milk then After a week I started taking two capsules a day at breakfast and dinner. I made sure to stay away from fast food which I was informed contains high fat and reduces or stops the effect of Pm and does not allow it to absorb and stuck to good meals with important meats and veggies. And I didn't drink any alcohol which doesn't let the PM absorb. I like the product it works for me. It may not work for everyone, but it works for me because I followed the directions. I didn't pay too much attention to the ingredients, I just followed the directions and I could feel my body going through changes as soon as I started taking it. I embraced the new feelings and changes and I followed the directions to the letter and I got the results. It took some time for my breasts to get past the swelling/firming stage and actually show real growth, but it happened before 6 months some people take longer I guess, but what I do know is the products are great and the support is great.
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Julie
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January 13th, 2009, 3:16 am #28 2009-01-13T03:16
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?In an earlier message from someone else http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/docket ... vol162.pdf link shows that no side effects were noted in humans. So at any rate this to me says it all. Ainterol PM capsules are 100% Pure PM. The ingredients listed are just the breakdown of what is in the Pueraria Mirifica plant. I take it and I have had similar results as Anonymous. I also started out as an A and am now a B cup. I use the pureherbalbeauty website that was listed earlier.
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Ainterol Doesn't Work
Ainterol Doesn't Work
January 13th, 2009, 3:53 am #29 2009-01-13T03:53
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Every post I have ever seen on this board suggests that it has not worked for anyone. Sometime things will work for some and not others. But it seems that EVERYONE who has taken PM by Ainterol has not grown. Every once in a while, you get some one who either works for the company or perhaps paid by the company.
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First of all, PM of any kind should not be taken everyday. Only days 1-14, or some other variation. Secondly, ainterol PM is MISSING the KEY ingredient that actually makes your breast grow. If it is missing your breasts will NOT grow. This is like taking pain medicine without the ingredient that actually takes away the pain. Why would anyone do that? That is same thing as buying Ainterol.
I grew taking herbs, I grew taking BO, heck I even grew taking EPO, and very quickly on all NBE methods. I probably will grow on PM just not Ainterol's PM. Because it is completely ineffective. I feel conned for having tried it.
If anyone is thinking of PM, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THE AINTEROL BRAND! It does nothing to enhance your breast. I know because I used it for about 4 months with no results at all, not even fullness.
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Joined: January 10th, 2007, 1:23 am January 16th, 2009, 9:19 pm #30 2009-01-16T21:19
Quote:I've been trying to find out if Ainterol PM is just as good as (or better than) St. Herb, as it's quite a lot cheaper. Ainterol forwarded the packaging label for wholesale buyers to me today, because I was asking about the miroestrol content. I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but the label doesn't even list miroestrol on it. It only lists daidzin, daidzein, genistin, genistein, and puerarin. And, they seem to be really low levels (between 0.015 mg and 0.4 mg per 1000 mg). I can't find the place where I read the levels of miroestrol and other phytoestrogens on the St. Herb products, but I'm pretty sure they were way higher. What do you guys think about this?Its been awhile since i've been to the forums. I think i was the first one to actually try Ainterol. I took it for 5 months total, i think, no help at all. i will NEVER forget the side effects i got from it either. scary! i am suprised more women have tried it after my posts about the dangers. maybe they didn't see them or read much about it before trying. last week -out of sheer curiosity- i did an ebay search for Ainterol and turned up no results. this is where i ordered it from. directly from Ainterol. Also, their website is STILL not up after a year?
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