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Nerve damage from pumping

(21-10-2018, 06:10)Jenniferlove Wrote:  I’m not sure if I explained how all of this unfolded but it started last year with one swollen lymph node on my neck. A few months later my whole neck started to swell up.  The numbness would come and go.   This has been a very slow progression.  Because it started with a swollen neck I did not put two and two together that it could be related to the pump until the very last time I pumped and it went super numb it did not come back. 

I still did not think that the lymph node and swollen neck could be related to the pumping until my doctor said he thought that it was injury related. I asked him if swollen lymph nodes and neck could be related to an injury and he said absolutely.

My point is we are all slowly doing damage and not realizing it. Listen to the early warning signs.  I have been doing a lot of reading on nerve damage and blood vessel damage. Nerves can re-grow but it takes a very long time and they don’t always come back.  You need to have a pretty impeccable diet and lifestyle also for them to come back healthy. Blood vessels it gets a lot more complicated and sometimes require surgery to be repaired.
Do you think stoping NB at early warning sign will easily get back us to normal? 
Is this swollem lymph is nod is really visible by eyes or only know when touching it?
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(21-10-2018, 05:17)Shifa Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 05:09)Shifa Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 04:25)Dark_Swan Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 04:17)Shifa Wrote:  
(20-10-2018, 21:22)Jenniferlove Wrote:  The scariest part of all of this is how I (and I'm sure many others) are now welcoming bacterial infections and disease to easily grow within us.  Without proper blood flow, as my acupuncturist explained, all the bad things begin to harvest.  I seriously wonder what is happening to me right now.

Do you think it is not reversible at early stage? anyone help please..

I am guessing it could be at an early stage. Because from what I read women's arms go numb but start working normally.
My arm use to go numb as well. I am not noogling atm and my arm feels normal.

How come? You okay gurl?
Hi,

Thank you for your reply. I dont have numb issues. But, I got cold few days ago but still it persist. I guess it may be because of lymphatic damage. I feel cold all the time. Inget muscus from my nose and throat with dark brown and yellowish colour. I dont know if there any blood vessel damaged. I feel more neck pain on my left side.
Can NB ladies get same blood vessel damage like high BP patients. It is not reversible. ( I mean elasticity of blood vessels) 
https://www.quora.com/Can-blood-vessels-...egenerated
I am not sure if using NB specifically leads to small blood vessel damage. There are many things that lead to small vessel damage like poor diet, lack of exercise, diabetes, hypertension, obesity etc. Also, some other problems also have very similar symptoms to certain problems as well. So you never know.

Best would be to get it checked. NB could or could not be the cause. Get it checked early and you can be treated.
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(21-10-2018, 06:43)Shifa Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:10)Jenniferlove Wrote:  I’m not sure if I explained how all of this unfolded but it started last year with one swollen lymph node on my neck. A few months later my whole neck started to swell up.  The numbness would come and go.   This has been a very slow progression.  Because it started with a swollen neck I did not put two and two together that it could be related to the pump until the very last time I pumped and it went super numb it did not come back. 

I still did not think that the lymph node and swollen neck could be related to the pumping until my doctor said he thought that it was injury related. I asked him if swollen lymph nodes and neck could be related to an injury and he said absolutely.

My point is we are all slowly doing damage and not realizing it. Listen to the early warning signs.  I have been doing a lot of reading on nerve damage and blood vessel damage. Nerves can re-grow but it takes a very long time and they don’t always come back.  You need to have a pretty impeccable diet and lifestyle also for them to come back healthy. Blood vessels it gets a lot more complicated and sometimes require surgery to be repaired.
Do you think stoping NB at early warning sign will easily get back us to normal? 
Is this swollem lymph is nod is really visible by eyes or only know when touching it?
This would definitely give you the best chance of recovery.
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(21-10-2018, 07:04)Dark_Swan Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:43)Shifa Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:10)Jenniferlove Wrote:  I’m not sure if I explained how all of this unfolded but it started last year with one swollen lymph node on my neck. A few months later my whole neck started to swell up.  The numbness would come and go.   This has been a very slow progression.  Because it started with a swollen neck I did not put two and two together that it could be related to the pump until the very last time I pumped and it went super numb it did not come back. 

I still did not think that the lymph node and swollen neck could be related to the pumping until my doctor said he thought that it was injury related. I asked him if swollen lymph nodes and neck could be related to an injury and he said absolutely.

My point is we are all slowly doing damage and not realizing it. Listen to the early warning signs.  I have been doing a lot of reading on nerve damage and blood vessel damage. Nerves can re-grow but it takes a very long time and they don’t always come back.  You need to have a pretty impeccable diet and lifestyle also for them to come back healthy. Blood vessels it gets a lot more complicated and sometimes require surgery to be repaired.
Do you think stoping NB at early warning sign will easily get back us to normal? 
Is this swollem lymph is nod is really visible by eyes or only know when touching it?
This would definitely give you the best chance of recovery.
 The bottom line is the body needs healthy blood flow in order to stay strong. When you weaken the blood flow you are welcoming in all sorts of potential problems. I am now convinced that the pump is distorting what lays beneath our skin. Why gamble with your health?  This is exactly why I did not take herbs and it turns out it did not matter in the end.  It never occurred to me that we were pumping so close to so many vital veins.  Google vascular system and you will see that all veins more or less begin in the neck and then go throughout the body.
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Hi Jenniferlove,
any updates ?
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(21-10-2018, 07:12)Jenniferlove Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 07:04)Dark_Swan Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:43)Shifa Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:10)Jenniferlove Wrote:  I’m not sure if I explained how all of this unfolded but it started last year with one swollen lymph node on my neck. A few months later my whole neck started to swell up.  The numbness would come and go.   This has been a very slow progression.  Because it started with a swollen neck I did not put two and two together that it could be related to the pump until the very last time I pumped and it went super numb it did not come back. 

I still did not think that the lymph node and swollen neck could be related to the pumping until my doctor said he thought that it was injury related. I asked him if swollen lymph nodes and neck could be related to an injury and he said absolutely.

My point is we are all slowly doing damage and not realizing it. Listen to the early warning signs.  I have been doing a lot of reading on nerve damage and blood vessel damage. Nerves can re-grow but it takes a very long time and they don’t always come back.  You need to have a pretty impeccable diet and lifestyle also for them to come back healthy. Blood vessels it gets a lot more complicated and sometimes require surgery to be repaired.
Do you think stoping NB at early warning sign will easily get back us to normal? 
Is this swollem lymph is nod is really visible by eyes or only know when touching it?
This would definitely give you the best chance of recovery.
 The bottom line is the body needs healthy blood flow in order to stay strong. When you weaken the blood flow you are welcoming in all sorts of potential problems. I am now convinced that the pump is distorting what lays beneath our skin. Why gamble with your health?  This is exactly why I did not take herbs and it turns out it did not matter in the end.  It never occurred to me that we were pumping so close to so many vital veins.  Google vascular system and you will see that all veins more or less begin in the neck and then go throughout the body.
Jenny, I experienced the numbness last night. My legs toes arms and fingers. And it hurt a little bit too. It happened after I used pumps three times maybe 1.5 hours then I went to sleep. I woke up and still felt the numbness. And yea last night the pumps were posed closer to my armpit. 

By the way did the doctors mention any sports to help you recover? I remember I had breathing problem, short of breath, palpitation and my chest area hurt every day. I went through all sorts of exam, and nothing wrong detected. In the end I went swimming to improve lung and blood circulation and was recovered.
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(06-11-2018, 16:21)bosekk Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 07:12)Jenniferlove Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 07:04)Dark_Swan Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:43)Shifa Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:10)Jenniferlove Wrote:  I’m not sure if I explained how all of this unfolded but it started last year with one swollen lymph node on my neck. A few months later my whole neck started to swell up.  The numbness would come and go.   This has been a very slow progression.  Because it started with a swollen neck I did not put two and two together that it could be related to the pump until the very last time I pumped and it went super numb it did not come back. 

I still did not think that the lymph node and swollen neck could be related to the pumping until my doctor said he thought that it was injury related. I asked him if swollen lymph nodes and neck could be related to an injury and he said absolutely.

My point is we are all slowly doing damage and not realizing it. Listen to the early warning signs.  I have been doing a lot of reading on nerve damage and blood vessel damage. Nerves can re-grow but it takes a very long time and they don’t always come back.  You need to have a pretty impeccable diet and lifestyle also for them to come back healthy. Blood vessels it gets a lot more complicated and sometimes require surgery to be repaired.
Do you think stoping NB at early warning sign will easily get back us to normal? 
Is this swollem lymph is nod is really visible by eyes or only know when touching it?
This would definitely give you the best chance of recovery.
 The bottom line is the body needs healthy blood flow in order to stay strong. When you weaken the blood flow you are welcoming in all sorts of potential problems. I am now convinced that the pump is distorting what lays beneath our skin. Why gamble with your health?  This is exactly why I did not take herbs and it turns out it did not matter in the end.  It never occurred to me that we were pumping so close to so many vital veins.  Google vascular system and you will see that all veins more or less begin in the neck and then go throughout the body.
Jenny, I experienced the numbness last night. My legs toes arms and fingers. And it hurt a little bit too. It happened after I used pumps three times maybe 1.5 hours then I went to sleep. I woke up and still felt the numbness. And yea last night the pumps were posed closer to my armpit. 

By the way did the doctors mention any sports to help you recover? I remember I had breathing problem, short of breath, palpitation and my chest area hurt every day. I went through all sorts of exam, and nothing wrong detected. In the end I went swimming to improve lung and blood circulation and was recovered.

The noogling is definitely correlated.  The more i study auto-immune diseases (which vasculitis and neuropothy are both considered), it is often caused by damage.  I am eating an anti-inflammatory diet now geared towards healing auto-immune issues.  It is helping a ton.  And no coffee.  I feel many people are going to have the learn the hard way here.  The warnings are out.  Those who have read this thread now no better.  Massage will help you grow a lot.  Like I've written before, I pretty much only massaged my right breast and it grew a ton too.  We don't need deadly herbs and pumps.
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(12-11-2018, 23:17)Jenniferlove Wrote:  
(06-11-2018, 16:21)bosekk Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 07:12)Jenniferlove Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 07:04)Dark_Swan Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 06:43)Shifa Wrote:  Do you think stoping NB at early warning sign will easily get back us to normal? 
Is this swollem lymph is nod is really visible by eyes or only know when touching it?
This would definitely give you the best chance of recovery.
 The bottom line is the body needs healthy blood flow in order to stay strong. When you weaken the blood flow you are welcoming in all sorts of potential problems. I am now convinced that the pump is distorting what lays beneath our skin. Why gamble with your health?  This is exactly why I did not take herbs and it turns out it did not matter in the end.  It never occurred to me that we were pumping so close to so many vital veins.  Google vascular system and you will see that all veins more or less begin in the neck and then go throughout the body.
Jenny, I experienced the numbness last night. My legs toes arms and fingers. And it hurt a little bit too. It happened after I used pumps three times maybe 1.5 hours then I went to sleep. I woke up and still felt the numbness. And yea last night the pumps were posed closer to my armpit. 

By the way did the doctors mention any sports to help you recover? I remember I had breathing problem, short of breath, palpitation and my chest area hurt every day. I went through all sorts of exam, and nothing wrong detected. In the end I went swimming to improve lung and blood circulation and was recovered.

The noogling is definitely correlated.  The more i study auto-immune diseases (which vasculitis and neuropothy are both considered), it is often caused by damage.  I am eating an anti-inflammatory diet now geared towards healing auto-immune issues.  It is helping a ton.  And no coffee.  I feel many people are going to have the learn the hard way here.  The warnings are out.  Those who have read this thread now no better.  Massage will help you grow a lot.  Like I've written before, I pretty much only massaged my right breast and it grew a ton too.  We don't need deadly herbs and pumps.
Hi did you take red Reishi mushrooms? It is considered in china very good and it supports immune system, therefore help pretty much with anything. I am taking reishi powered tea. Also I think pumping really give me more tissues. I was flat like aaa. And massaged for years with no luck. Gained boobs mostly from weight gain.  But pumping made a difference. However once I experience that numbness, it felt so weird. So I stopped and go back to massage.
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(13-11-2018, 04:21)bosekk Wrote:  
(12-11-2018, 23:17)Jenniferlove Wrote:  
(06-11-2018, 16:21)bosekk Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 07:12)Jenniferlove Wrote:  
(21-10-2018, 07:04)Dark_Swan Wrote:  This would definitely give you the best chance of recovery.
 The bottom line is the body needs healthy blood flow in order to stay strong. When you weaken the blood flow you are welcoming in all sorts of potential problems. I am now convinced that the pump is distorting what lays beneath our skin. Why gamble with your health?  This is exactly why I did not take herbs and it turns out it did not matter in the end.  It never occurred to me that we were pumping so close to so many vital veins.  Google vascular system and you will see that all veins more or less begin in the neck and then go throughout the body.
Jenny, I experienced the numbness last night. My legs toes arms and fingers. And it hurt a little bit too. It happened after I used pumps three times maybe 1.5 hours then I went to sleep. I woke up and still felt the numbness. And yea last night the pumps were posed closer to my armpit. 

By the way did the doctors mention any sports to help you recover? I remember I had breathing problem, short of breath, palpitation and my chest area hurt every day. I went through all sorts of exam, and nothing wrong detected. In the end I went swimming to improve lung and blood circulation and was recovered.

The noogling is definitely correlated.  The more i study auto-immune diseases (which vasculitis and neuropothy are both considered), it is often caused by damage.  I am eating an anti-inflammatory diet now geared towards healing auto-immune issues.  It is helping a ton.  And no coffee.  I feel many people are going to have the learn the hard way here.  The warnings are out.  Those who have read this thread now no better.  Massage will help you grow a lot.  Like I've written before, I pretty much only massaged my right breast and it grew a ton too.  We don't need deadly herbs and pumps.
Hi did you take red Reishi mushrooms? It is considered in china very good and it supports immune system, therefore help pretty much with anything. I am taking reishi powered tea. Also I think pumping really give me more tissues. I was flat like aaa. And massaged for years with no luck. Gained boobs mostly from weight gain.  But pumping made a difference. However once I experience that numbness, it felt so weird. So I stopped and go back to massage.

I do take resihi tincture actually.  I don't know I speak from experience that massage helped me grow and I remember another girl on here only massaged and grew an impressive amount also.  It takes more time but can be done. I actually massaged a bit today.  Numbness is no joke.  It's weakening our nerves and blood vessels.  I can't believe how naive I was about this.
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If there is no such warning sign or no one experienced any damage I would definitely continue noogling. As flat girl I got tissue from noogling. But, these warning like numbness is really make us so depressed everyday. but, I was wondering many have been using noogleberry for years still continue without any side effects!
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