[EllaC]

http://www.siamnatural.com/Pueraria_miri...ua_Kao.htm

I purchased a PM from them WITH collagen in it.. 
all the successful Pueraria girls I read about used collagen alongside PM.

I believe due to the lower dosage and from my research higher for PM Is not good. I believe this stuff will actually metabolise estrogen in a good way as pm is meant to. 

Anyone have experience with this brand???

[bosekk]

Hi EllenC,

Do you plan to do experiment with herbs again? 

For me, I started massage five years ago, on and off of course. I found that without any hormone treatment, the effect has a limit. Once the limit has been reached, the growth stops. I changed from aaa to a, most of the growth was after weight gain and bc pills. 

I am taking biotin with collagen. And I use flaxseed oil for massage. Flaxseed oil gave me fullness. My skin is very tight, and never experienced much swelling after pumping or massage. But I can feel the fullness.  

I’ll put PM in my list to try after flaxseed. And BO after PM.

[EllaC]

Hi EllenC,

Do you plan to do experiment with herbs again? 

For me, I started massage five years ago, on and off of course. I found that without any hormone treatment, the effect has a limit. Once the limit has been reached, the growth stops. I changed from aaa to a, most of the growth was after weight gain and bc pills. 

I am taking biotin with collagen. And I use flaxseed oil for massage. Flaxseed oil gave me fullness. My skin is very tight, and never experienced much swelling after pumping or massage. But I can feel the fullness.  

I’ll put PM in my list to try after flaxseed. And BO after PM.

Hi
 Funny you say that cause I was reading a thread and they had great success with biotin and collagen! 
Re trying herbs I probably won't as brought this on a whim .
I will hold onto it though and may use sporadically however. 
Tell you what is much rather try what you are doing as I know collagen will benefit me and certainly biotin. I've heard a few times now biotin improving breasts . Your on the right path

[bosekk]

Hi EllenC,

Do you plan to do experiment with herbs again? 

For me, I started massage five years ago, on and off of course. I found that without any hormone treatment, the effect has a limit. Once the limit has been reached, the growth stops. I changed from aaa to a, most of the growth was after weight gain and bc pills. 

I am taking biotin with collagen. And I use flaxseed oil for massage. Flaxseed oil gave me fullness. My skin is very tight, and never experienced much swelling after pumping or massage. But I can feel the fullness.  

I’ll put PM in my list to try after flaxseed. And BO after PM.

Hi
 Funny you say that cause I was reading a thread and they had great success with biotin and collagen! 
Re trying herbs I probably won't as brought this on a whim .
I will hold onto it though and may use sporadically however. 
Tell you what is much rather try what you are doing as I know collagen will benefit me and certainly biotin. I've heard a few times now biotin improving breasts . Your on the right path

That’s interesting. Can you share the thread? I have weak nails and dry skin. Taking nature’s bounty hair, skin, nails.

[mausmi]

Hi EllenC,

Do you plan to do experiment with herbs again? 

For me, I started massage five years ago, on and off of course. I found that without any hormone treatment, the effect has a limit. Once the limit has been reached, the growth stops. I changed from aaa to a, most of the growth was after weight gain and bc pills. 

I am taking biotin with collagen. And I use flaxseed oil for massage. Flaxseed oil gave me fullness. My skin is very tight, and never experienced much swelling after pumping or massage. But I can feel the fullness.  

I’ll put PM in my list to try after flaxseed. And BO after PM.

Hi
 Funny you say that cause I was reading a thread and they had great success with biotin and collagen! 
Re trying herbs I probably won't as brought this on a whim .
I will hold onto it though and may use sporadically however. 
Tell you what is much rather try what you are doing as I know collagen will benefit me and certainly biotin. I've heard a few times now biotin improving breasts . Your on the right path

I have been using biotin for the 3 months and havnt seen any improvement in hair (still having hair loss), nails (easily break), skin & breasts (no change). I am going to keep taking it till I finish my supply.
We are all different and need different things. It may work for you. Give it a go.

[Soledad46]

Hi EllenC,

Do you plan to do experiment with herbs again? 

For me, I started massage five years ago, on and off of course. I found that without any hormone treatment, the effect has a limit. Once the limit has been reached, the growth stops. I changed from aaa to a, most of the growth was after weight gain and bc pills. 

I am taking biotin with collagen. And I use flaxseed oil for massage. Flaxseed oil gave me fullness. My skin is very tight, and never experienced much swelling after pumping or massage. But I can feel the fullness.  

I’ll put PM in my list to try after flaxseed. And BO after PM.

Hi
 Funny you say that cause I was reading a thread and they had great success with biotin and collagen! 
Re trying herbs I probably won't as brought this on a whim .
I will hold onto it though and may use sporadically however. 
Tell you what is much rather try what you are doing as I know collagen will benefit me and certainly biotin. I've heard a few times now biotin improving breasts . Your on the right path

I have been using biotin for the 3 months and havnt seen any improvement in hair (still having hair loss), nails (easily break), skin & breasts (no change). I am going to keep taking it till I finish my supply.
We are all different and need different things. It may work for you. Give it a go.

Hi Ella!

After a very long break from NBE, I’m considering experimenting with PM at a low dose. I’m thinking 250/day and following something similar to Ceci82’s auxiliary supplement protocol. The research is exhausting, and now looking for a reliable brand of PM to buy is discouraging, it seems. Have you tried the Siam yet? If so, what are your thoughts?

Xo, Soli

[EllaC]

Hi EllenC,

Do you plan to do experiment with herbs again? 

For me, I started massage five years ago, on and off of course. I found that without any hormone treatment, the effect has a limit. Once the limit has been reached, the growth stops. I changed from aaa to a, most of the growth was after weight gain and bc pills. 

I am taking biotin with collagen. And I use flaxseed oil for massage. Flaxseed oil gave me fullness. My skin is very tight, and never experienced much swelling after pumping or massage. But I can feel the fullness.  

I’ll put PM in my list to try after flaxseed. And BO after PM.

Hi
 Funny you say that cause I was reading a thread and they had great success with biotin and collagen! 
Re trying herbs I probably won't as brought this on a whim .
I will hold onto it though and may use sporadically however. 
Tell you what is much rather try what you are doing as I know collagen will benefit me and certainly biotin. I've heard a few times now biotin improving breasts . Your on the right path

I have been using biotin for the 3 months and havnt seen any improvement in hair (still having hair loss), nails (easily break), skin & breasts (no change). I am going to keep taking it till I finish my supply.
We are all different and need different things. It may work for you. Give it a go.

Hi Ella!

After a very long break from NBE, I’m considering experimenting with PM at a low dose. I’m thinking 250/day and following something similar to Ceci82’s auxiliary supplement protocol. The research is exhausting, and now looking for a reliable brand of PM to buy is discouraging, it seems. Have you tried the Siam yet? If so, what are your thoughts?

Xo, Soli

Hey soli. 
I still have it but not tried with any consistency yet. It seems e dry time I take ANY thing estrogen related I get bad symptoms   
I do appreciate the right low dose PM does actually metabolise estrogen in the right way however that fear of it potentially not is holding me back
soli you could always seek out online reviews of Siam PM and see what people say. Not sure if amazon would sell it But I’d been keen to hear reviews if they are around too