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(10-07-2020, 09:02)koyasha Wrote:  

Thank you, Joe.

I am taking Vitex, it is supposed to help with hormonal imbalances.

Vitex is similar to PC but much milder/weaker.  It saturates quickly meaning you don’t really get more effect from a higher dose, making an excessive amount that much more unlikely.  It is usually a safe bet to try it out.  Be patient due to the small (but significant) effect.
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(11-07-2020, 13:57)surferjoe2007 Wrote:  
(10-07-2020, 09:02)koyasha Wrote:  

Thank you, Joe.

I am taking Vitex, it is supposed to help with hormonal imbalances.

Vitex is similar to PC but much milder/weaker.  It saturates quickly meaning you don’t really get more effect from a higher dose, making an excessive amount that much more unlikely.  It is usually a safe bet to try it out.  Be patient due to the small (but significant) effect.


Thanks, so I will have to take it for an extended period of time until I get results from it? Thus far, I can tell that my period cramps aren't as bad as they were before!

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(11-07-2020, 14:28)koyasha Wrote:  

(11-07-2020, 13:57)surferjoe2007 Wrote:  
(10-07-2020, 09:02)koyasha Wrote:  

Thank you, Joe.

I am taking Vitex, it is supposed to help with hormonal imbalances.

Vitex is similar to PC but much milder/weaker.  It saturates quickly meaning you don’t really get more effect from a higher dose, making an excessive amount that much more unlikely.  It is usually a safe bet to try it out.  Be patient due to the small (but significant) effect.


Thanks, so I will have to take it for an extended period of time until I get results from it? Thus far, I can tell that my period cramps aren't as bad as they were before!

That’s a very good sign.  Yeah it may take many months or a couple years for full results.  50% saponin shatavari or fenugreek extract (or other strong extract, or a good amount of sprouted fenugreek seeds) may help too.  Or maybe progesterone cream, making sure it’s not too much.
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(13-07-2020, 07:00)surferjoe2007 Wrote:  
(11-07-2020, 14:28)koyasha Wrote:  

(11-07-2020, 13:57)surferjoe2007 Wrote:  
(10-07-2020, 09:02)koyasha Wrote:  

Thank you, Joe.

I am taking Vitex, it is supposed to help with hormonal imbalances.

Vitex is similar to PC but much milder/weaker.  It saturates quickly meaning you don’t really get more effect from a higher dose, making an excessive amount that much more unlikely.  It is usually a safe bet to try it out.  Be patient due to the small (but significant) effect.


Thanks, so I will have to take it for an extended period of time until I get results from it? Thus far, I can tell that my period cramps aren't as bad as they were before!

That’s a very good sign.  Yeah it may take many months or a couple years for full results.  50% saponin shatavari or fenugreek extract (or other strong extract, or a good amount of sprouted fenugreek seeds) may help too.  Or maybe progesterone cream, making sure it’s not too much.


That's my problem, I have a hard time being consistent with things for an extended period of time. If I don't see results, I get discouraged, even though I know that some things take time. 
I will try progesterone cream first as I already have one at home, I wasn't sure whether to use it in addition to the Vitex and when exactly my ovulation occurred, you are supposed to use it between the day of your ovulation and the first day of your period as far as I know.

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(16-07-2020, 17:20)koyasha Wrote:  

(13-07-2020, 07:00)surferjoe2007 Wrote:  
(11-07-2020, 14:28)koyasha Wrote:  

(11-07-2020, 13:57)surferjoe2007 Wrote:  
(10-07-2020, 09:02)koyasha Wrote:  

Thank you, Joe.

I am taking Vitex, it is supposed to help with hormonal imbalances.

Vitex is similar to PC but much milder/weaker.  It saturates quickly meaning you don’t really get more effect from a higher dose, making an excessive amount that much more unlikely.  It is usually a safe bet to try it out.  Be patient due to the small (but significant) effect.


Thanks, so I will have to take it for an extended period of time until I get results from it? Thus far, I can tell that my period cramps aren't as bad as they were before!

That’s a very good sign.  Yeah it may take many months or a couple years for full results.  50% saponin shatavari or fenugreek extract (or other strong extract, or a good amount of sprouted fenugreek seeds) may help too.  Or maybe progesterone cream, making sure it’s not too much.


That's my problem, I have a hard time being consistent with things for an extended period of time. If I don't see results, I get discouraged, even though I know that some things take time. 
I will try progesterone cream first as I already have one at home, I wasn't sure whether to use it in addition to the Vitex and when exactly my ovulation occurred, you are supposed to use it between the day of your ovulation and the first day of your period as far as I know.

Since vitex is mild it wouldn’t hurt to use both if you want.  Or just PC is fine too.  Yes that it is when you use PC.  Since vitex is weaker you can use vitex every day if you like.
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I will do that, use Vitex every day, twice a day in the beginning and PC around 14 days after my last period. My periods are usually 25 days long, so should I start using it 14 days after my last or 14 days before my next period? Probably won't make that much of a difference.

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(18-07-2020, 18:44)koyasha Wrote:  

I will do that, use Vitex every day, twice a day in the beginning and PC around 14 days after my last period. My periods are usually 25 days long, so should I start using it 14 days after my last or 14 days before my next period? Probably won't make that much of a difference.

Not really much of a difference.  Some people even do PC for longer.  You can look up a chart to see when P is naturally highest if you like.
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Ok, I will do that. Thanks a lot for your help :-)

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Hi surferjoe2007 thank you for sharing a lot of information with us. You are really knowledgeable..

Can I ask you a favor, to check that my routine is good enough?

My height 166 cm and weight 51 kg.

I’m quite skinny.. My size is AA/small A. I want to increase my small bust to look good before my wedding. I’m not expected to much, full A or B is enough.


Anw, this is my routine

Morning:

Probiotic supplement

A scoop of Collagen powder + drink


Afternoon:

250 mg Shatavari (25% shaponin-1 caps)

1000 IU Vit D (1 cape)

500 mg Vit C (1 caps)


Night:

250 mg Shatavari (25% shaponin-1 caps)

400 mg Vitex (1 caps)

A glass of milk + honey


  • Almost everyday, I do some chest exercise to make make my breast firm.
  • Everynight I massage my breast using Chiyomilk and Reiki method with Pueraria oil.

Fyi, I already taken pueraria supplement few months ago, but it messed my cycle really bad. So I stop taking PM.
I’m planning to add your nut mix to my daily routine.

Question:
1. Is my routine good enough? Or what can I improve to achieve my goal?
2. Can I get 50% shaponin by multiply my Shatavari intake? Its kinda hard to get Shavatari supplement with high shaponins in my place


Thats my question.

Sorry if I make a lot of grammatical error, English is not my first language.

Thank you for your kindness ^^

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(29-07-2020, 16:10)Stargirl88 Wrote:  

Hi surferjoe2007 thank you for sharing a lot of information with us. You are really knowledgeable..

Can I ask you a favor, to check that my routine is good enough?

My height 166 cm and weight 51 kg.

I’m quite skinny.. My size is AA/small A. I want to increase my small bust to look good before my wedding. I’m not expected to much, full A or B is enough.


Anw, this is my routine

Morning:

Probiotic supplement

A scoop of Collagen powder + drink


Afternoon:

250 mg Shatavari (25% shaponin-1 caps)

1000 IU Vit D (1 cape)

500 mg Vit C (1 caps)


Night:

250 mg Shatavari (25% shaponin-1 caps)

400 mg Vitex (1 caps)

A glass of milk + honey


  • Almost everyday, I do some chest exercise to make make my breast firm.
  • Everynight I massage my breast using Chiyomilk and Reiki method with Pueraria oil.

Fyi, I already taken pueraria supplement few months ago, but it messed my cycle really bad. So I stop taking PM.
I’m planning to add your nut mix to my daily routine.

Question:
1. Is my routine good enough? Or what can I improve to achieve my goal?
2. Can I get 50% shaponin by multiply my Shatavari intake? Its kinda hard to get Shavatari supplement with high shaponins in my place


Thats my question.

Sorry if I make a lot of grammatical error, English is not my first language.

Thank you for your kindness ^^


It is much more difficult when starting from AA.  You’ll want the foods in my signature threads first and that may take many months.

Since you only need a full A or more try this:
- Herbs don’t hurt, but plan on them not working until after many months on the foods to be on the safe side.  25% saponin shatavari is fine, you just use twice as much.  You probably want to continue to stay away from PM for now.  Likewise try the foods and hope they work in time for the wedding, but don’t count on it.  Instead you will probably need the methods below.
- Pumping.
- Massage with flax seed oil.
- Google how to do dumbbell chest presses on a bench.  8 reps per set, 3 sets, 1 minute rest between sets.  2 days between workouts, so 3 times a week.  Use enough weight to make you a little sore at the end, and increase weight as needed.  A machine also works but you must have weights or resistance to build size.  5g creatine and 2g HMB help a lot if you can find them.  So does eating lots of starches a couple hours before the workout, or at least a little starches a little before.  You don’t need a lot of protein.  You can get plenty from a little food afterwards.  It won’t make your boobs bigger but it will make the muscle underneath your boobs bigger and that can be enough for 1 or 2 cup sizes, even if pumping and massage fails.  But it takes a lot of work and a few months.
- You might find a plumping cream that adds about 1/4 of a cup immediately, since every little bit helps.  An irritant such as muscle rub (icy hot, regular strength tiger balm, etc) might help immediate swelling too but it has a strong smell so up to you.  Test and see if either or both work right away.
- You may want to simply use a push-up bra and/or padding or stuffing.  There are many more tricks on YouTube.
- If all of that fails and you only need it for 1 day then forums.newart.com has information on saline injections.  Everything must be super sterile and you must be extremely careful or you can hurt yourself badly with a serious infection.  Ideally only a nurse or doctor should handle needles, or you should have proper training on safety.  And if you use too much saline it can look like a silly balloon.  Do a practice day once or twice many days before the wedding.  Avoid this option if you can, but if done correctly it should be safe like any other injection.
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