[msla]

Ok. I have joined this forum for 10 years. I used to take a little bit of herbs but my butt grew so i didnt take any herbs anymore, anything that is estrogenic will cause fat go to my butt. I believe pumping will give result because i used noogle berry for a short amount of time and my boobs already get fuller, but i dont want to grow breast now cuz im feel im ok with it. Im currently using an progesterone gel i bought from nearby drugstore. I just saw it in my nearby drugstore and it is not expensive so i buy it because i read sb said here that when she takes progesterone cream, she lost fat in her butt faster. My purpose now is losing fat in my butt. Im taking herbs that boost testerone, and when i take it, after i ate, fat goes to my belly more than my butt. I just wonder that this progestogel gives me headache even if i apply a dime size, i already feel tense in my head. If i take more than dime size, the headache increased. The dosage it said is 2.5g gel 1-2 times per day . If i take 2.5g, the headache is uncomfortable. I search progesterone cream side effect and it includes headache. Maybe my gel is synthetic progesterone. Because it seems no women here mentioned about headache while using PM ,maybe because their PM is natural progesterone. I dont know if i should use this tube anymore . If i use it, i will just use a dime size because if using the right dosage 2.5g, i cant stand the headache. I dont seem to have hormone imbalance. Sometime i can have breast swelling before period but recently my breasts dont swell much before period. My tube is called progestogel 1%, it contains 1g of progesterone in a 80g tube made in belgium. I attached a pic here but i dont know if it shows. I dont know if it is dangerous if i use this cream.

[surferjoe2007]

The chance of serious negative effects is virtually nil because your body already has much more than what’s in the cream, pregnancy or prescription progesterone an order of magnitude more.  But yes headaches and other problems related to shifting hormones are possible (and the same as what might happen when they naturally shift each menstrual cycle).  The second concern is whether or not progesterone is truly what you need to grow, or if it’s actually something else, or if it’s both progesterone and something else.

IMO try the foods in my sig thread to help give you a good baseline.  Try a smaller amount of progesterone temporarily, more later and see how it goes.  Normally hormonal problems are also bad for growth so if it’s not a temporary headache don’t push it and consider stopping PC entirely and/or get a hormone test to help figure out what you really need.  There is almost never a good reason to “tough it out”.

[msla]

The chance of serious negative effects is virtually nil because your body already has much more than what’s in the cream, pregnancy or prescription progesterone an order of magnitude more.  But yes headaches and other problems related to shifting hormones are possible (and the same as what might happen when they naturally shift each menstrual cycle).  The second concern is whether or not progesterone is truly what you need to grow, or if it’s actually something else, or if it’s both progesterone and something else.

IMO try the foods in my sig thread to help give you a good baseline.  Try a smaller amount of progesterone temporarily, more later and see how it goes.  Normally hormonal problems are also bad for growth so if it’s not a temporary headache don’t push it and consider stopping PC entirely and/or get a hormone test to help figure out what you really need.  There is almost never a good reason to “tough it out”.

Thank you. I just do meaningless thing lately lol. I just want to ask about herbal infused oil for massage. Do the girls here, they make the quantity of infused oil to use for how long: one week, or one month....? I have 30ml of fenugreek oil, i will store it in the refridgerator, but i don't know how long shoud i use the infused oil? Or i can store as many months as i could ? I saw that the girls here said we should leave the mixture for 2 weeks for herbs to be absorbed fully to oil, so after 2 weeks should i strain the mixture so it can last longer ? My oil may include fenugreek oil, grounded black pepper, grounded cinnamon or some drop of cinnamon oil, maybe some vitamin e. In the future i may add some Pm powder.

[Bustyprincess]

The chance of serious negative effects is virtually nil because your body already has much more than what’s in the cream, pregnancy or prescription progesterone an order of magnitude more.  But yes headaches and other problems related to shifting hormones are possible (and the same as what might happen when they naturally shift each menstrual cycle).  The second concern is whether or not progesterone is truly what you need to grow, or if it’s actually something else, or if it’s both progesterone and something else.

IMO try the foods in my sig thread to help give you a good baseline.  Try a smaller amount of progesterone temporarily, more later and see how it goes.  Normally hormonal problems are also bad for growth so if it’s not a temporary headache don’t push it and consider stopping PC entirely and/or get a hormone test to help figure out what you really need.  There is almost never a good reason to “tough it out”.

Thank you. I just do meaningless thing lately lol. I just want to ask about herbal infused oil for massage. Do the girls here, they make the quantity of infused oil to use for how long: one week, or one month....? I have 30ml of fenugreek oil, i will store it in the refridgerator, but i don't know how long shoud i use the infused oil? Or i can store as many months as i could ? I saw that the girls here said we should leave the mixture for 2 weeks for herbs to be absorbed fully to oil, so after 2 weeks should i strain the mixture so it can last longer ? My oil may include fenugreek oil, grounded black pepper, grounded cinnamon or some drop of cinnamon oil, maybe some vitamin e. In the future i may add some Pm powder.

2 weeks MINIMUM to infuse, shaking everyday leaving on window seal, dont strain as then it will get more and more potent as time goes on, you might want to add much more ingredients to your herbal infusion like extra fenugreek, aguaje, fennel, goats rue(powdered or powdered in capsule form emptied), licorice root, or even PM which is great! The only reason I dont use it is I get crazy when on it like very hormonal, hot flashes etc as its too potent for me, as for how long it lasts, that totally depends on the oil you infuse it with, I infuse mine with sunflower oil which lasts me many months and doesnt go rancid like other oils

[msla]

The chance of serious negative effects is virtually nil because your body already has much more than what’s in the cream, pregnancy or prescription progesterone an order of magnitude more.  But yes headaches and other problems related to shifting hormones are possible (and the same as what might happen when they naturally shift each menstrual cycle).  The second concern is whether or not progesterone is truly what you need to grow, or if it’s actually something else, or if it’s both progesterone and something else.

IMO try the foods in my sig thread to help give you a good baseline.  Try a smaller amount of progesterone temporarily, more later and see how it goes.  Normally hormonal problems are also bad for growth so if it’s not a temporary headache don’t push it and consider stopping PC entirely and/or get a hormone test to help figure out what you really need.  There is almost never a good reason to “tough it out”.

Thank you. I just do meaningless thing lately lol. I just want to ask about herbal infused oil for massage. Do the girls here, they make the quantity of infused oil to use for how long: one week, or one month....? I have 30ml of fenugreek oil, i will store it in the refridgerator, but i don't know how long shoud i use the infused oil? Or i can store as many months as i could ? I saw that the girls here said we should leave the mixture for 2 weeks for herbs to be absorbed fully to oil, so after 2 weeks should i strain the mixture so it can last longer ? My oil may include fenugreek oil, grounded black pepper, grounded cinnamon or some drop of cinnamon oil, maybe some vitamin e. In the future i may add some Pm powder.

2 weeks MINIMUM to infuse, shaking everyday leaving on window seal, dont strain as then it will get more and more potent as time goes on, you might want to add much more ingredients to your herbal infusion like extra fenugreek, aguaje, fennel, goats rue(powdered or powdered in capsule form emptied), licorice root, or even PM which is great! The only reason I dont use it is I get crazy when on it like very hormonal, hot flashes etc as its too potent for me, as for how long it lasts, that totally depends on the oil you infuse it with, I infuse mine with sunflower oil which lasts me many months and doesnt go rancid like other oils

Oh thank you. I have sunflower oil in hand. Thanks so much for the information.

[Bustyprincess]

The chance of serious negative effects is virtually nil because your body already has much more than what’s in the cream, pregnancy or prescription progesterone an order of magnitude more.  But yes headaches and other problems related to shifting hormones are possible (and the same as what might happen when they naturally shift each menstrual cycle).  The second concern is whether or not progesterone is truly what you need to grow, or if it’s actually something else, or if it’s both progesterone and something else.

IMO try the foods in my sig thread to help give you a good baseline.  Try a smaller amount of progesterone temporarily, more later and see how it goes.  Normally hormonal problems are also bad for growth so if it’s not a temporary headache don’t push it and consider stopping PC entirely and/or get a hormone test to help figure out what you really need.  There is almost never a good reason to “tough it out”.

Thank you. I just do meaningless thing lately lol. I just want to ask about herbal infused oil for massage. Do the girls here, they make the quantity of infused oil to use for how long: one week, or one month....? I have 30ml of fenugreek oil, i will store it in the refridgerator, but i don't know how long shoud i use the infused oil? Or i can store as many months as i could ? I saw that the girls here said we should leave the mixture for 2 weeks for herbs to be absorbed fully to oil, so after 2 weeks should i strain the mixture so it can last longer ? My oil may include fenugreek oil, grounded black pepper, grounded cinnamon or some drop of cinnamon oil, maybe some vitamin e. In the future i may add some Pm powder.

2 weeks MINIMUM to infuse, shaking everyday leaving on window seal, dont strain as then it will get more and more potent as time goes on, you might want to add much more ingredients to your herbal infusion like extra fenugreek, aguaje, fennel, goats rue(powdered or powdered in capsule form emptied), licorice root, or even PM which is great! The only reason I dont use it is I get crazy when on it like very hormonal, hot flashes etc as its too potent for me, as for how long it lasts, that totally depends on the oil you infuse it with, I infuse mine with sunflower oil which lasts me many months and doesnt go rancid like other oils

Oh thank you. I have sunflower oil in hand. Thanks so much for the information.

Nws doll!  " alt="" title="">

[msla]

The chance of serious negative effects is virtually nil because your body already has much more than what’s in the cream, pregnancy or prescription progesterone an order of magnitude more.  But yes headaches and other problems related to shifting hormones are possible (and the same as what might happen when they naturally shift each menstrual cycle).  The second concern is whether or not progesterone is truly what you need to grow, or if it’s actually something else, or if it’s both progesterone and something else.

IMO try the foods in my sig thread to help give you a good baseline.  Try a smaller amount of progesterone temporarily, more later and see how it goes.  Normally hormonal problems are also bad for growth so if it’s not a temporary headache don’t push it and consider stopping PC entirely and/or get a hormone test to help figure out what you really need.  There is almost never a good reason to “tough it out”.

Thank you. I just do meaningless thing lately lol. I just want to ask about herbal infused oil for massage. Do the girls here, they make the quantity of infused oil to use for how long: one week, or one month....? I have 30ml of fenugreek oil, i will store it in the refridgerator, but i don't know how long shoud i use the infused oil? Or i can store as many months as i could ? I saw that the girls here said we should leave the mixture for 2 weeks for herbs to be absorbed fully to oil, so after 2 weeks should i strain the mixture so it can last longer ? My oil may include fenugreek oil, grounded black pepper, grounded cinnamon or some drop of cinnamon oil, maybe some vitamin e. In the future i may add some Pm powder.

2 weeks MINIMUM to infuse, shaking everyday leaving on window seal, dont strain as then it will get more and more potent as time goes on, you might want to add much more ingredients to your herbal infusion like extra fenugreek, aguaje, fennel, goats rue(powdered or powdered in capsule form emptied), licorice root, or even PM which is great! The only reason I dont use it is I get crazy when on it like very hormonal, hot flashes etc as its too potent for me, as for how long it lasts, that totally depends on the oil you infuse it with, I infuse mine with sunflower oil which lasts me many months and doesnt go rancid like other oils

Oh thank you. I have sunflower oil in hand. Thanks so much for the information.

Nws doll!  " alt="" title="">

I used to read your program and i have wondered how many ml of oil do you use, like how many ml of sunflower oil do you use each time you make infused oil, i remember your oil includes : 4x500mg goats rue, fenugreek, fennel..... 2 full dropper vial of watermelon oil, how many ml is one dropper vial cuz i searched and it may be 25ml? It seems that you put clove eso, my pm pill contains clove powder too, i dont know its benefit but i may give it a try. I can't find info of clove in this forum so i google searched and one page said clove may increase testosterone ? I really dont know how many gr of herbs in many ml of oil, i will try to look into your recipe.

[Bustyprincess]

Thank you. I just do meaningless thing lately lol. I just want to ask about herbal infused oil for massage. Do the girls here, they make the quantity of infused oil to use for how long: one week, or one month....? I have 30ml of fenugreek oil, i will store it in the refridgerator, but i don't know how long shoud i use the infused oil? Or i can store as many months as i could ? I saw that the girls here said we should leave the mixture for 2 weeks for herbs to be absorbed fully to oil, so after 2 weeks should i strain the mixture so it can last longer ? My oil may include fenugreek oil, grounded black pepper, grounded cinnamon or some drop of cinnamon oil, maybe some vitamin e. In the future i may add some Pm powder.

2 weeks MINIMUM to infuse, shaking everyday leaving on window seal, dont strain as then it will get more and more potent as time goes on, you might want to add much more ingredients to your herbal infusion like extra fenugreek, aguaje, fennel, goats rue(powdered or powdered in capsule form emptied), licorice root, or even PM which is great! The only reason I dont use it is I get crazy when on it like very hormonal, hot flashes etc as its too potent for me, as for how long it lasts, that totally depends on the oil you infuse it with, I infuse mine with sunflower oil which lasts me many months and doesnt go rancid like other oils

Oh thank you. I have sunflower oil in hand. Thanks so much for the information.

Nws doll!  " alt="" title="">

I used to read your program and i have wondered how many ml of oil do you use, like how many ml of sunflower oil do you use each time you make infused oil, i remember your oil includes : 4x500mg goats rue, fenugreek, fennel..... 2 full dropper vial of watermelon oil, how many ml is one dropper vial cuz i searched and it may be 25ml? It seems that you put clove eso, my pm pill contains clove powder too, i dont know its benefit but i may give it a try. I can't find info of clove in this forum so i google searched and one page said clove may increase testosterone ? I really dont know how many gr of herbs in many ml of oil, i will try to look into your recipe.

The clove is in a mixed ESO blend of cinnamon and orange, I use 10 drops, then 10 drops of lavender ESO, and 10 drops of Tea tree ESO, the bottle of watermelon seed oil I get is 59ml and I use two full dropper vials so you will have to figure that out sorry, as for the amount well I use these little travel bottles and once filled with all the herbs and oils etc I fill to the brim with sunflower oil I dont know how to explain the amount without showing you the bottle lol so you will have to make up as you go with my recipe as a baseline if that makes sense either way its very potent, clove oil does not increase testosterone it is the actual plant clove taken internally that only affects the male reproductive genitals (which I do not have) you may be thinking of red clover which despite many touting it as estrogenic has been shown in studies to increase testosterone levels in both menopausal and post menopausal women so do with that what u will, clove OIL is actually great for circulation boosting same as cinnamon oil, I dont know about the benefits of taking clove internally though Ive never heard of that infact clove oil should not be taken internally as it is potentially harmful if taken internally. The plant though I do not know.

[msla]

2 weeks MINIMUM to infuse, shaking everyday leaving on window seal, dont strain as then it will get more and more potent as time goes on, you might want to add much more ingredients to your herbal infusion like extra fenugreek, aguaje, fennel, goats rue(powdered or powdered in capsule form emptied), licorice root, or even PM which is great! The only reason I dont use it is I get crazy when on it like very hormonal, hot flashes etc as its too potent for me, as for how long it lasts, that totally depends on the oil you infuse it with, I infuse mine with sunflower oil which lasts me many months and doesnt go rancid like other oils

Oh thank you. I have sunflower oil in hand. Thanks so much for the information.

Nws doll!  " alt="" title="">

I used to read your program and i have wondered how many ml of oil do you use, like how many ml of sunflower oil do you use each time you make infused oil, i remember your oil includes : 4x500mg goats rue, fenugreek, fennel..... 2 full dropper vial of watermelon oil, how many ml is one dropper vial cuz i searched and it may be 25ml? It seems that you put clove eso, my pm pill contains clove powder too, i dont know its benefit but i may give it a try. I can't find info of clove in this forum so i google searched and one page said clove may increase testosterone ? I really dont know how many gr of herbs in many ml of oil, i will try to look into your recipe.

The clove is in a mixed ESO blend of cinnamon and orange, I use 10 drops, then 10 drops of lavender ESO, and 10 drops of Tea tree ESO, the bottle of watermelon seed oil I get is 59ml and I use two full dropper vials so you will have to figure that out sorry, as for the amount well I use these little travel bottles and once filled with all the herbs and oils etc I fill to the brim with sunflower oil I dont know how to explain the amount without showing you the bottle lol so you will have to make up as you go with my recipe as a baseline if that makes sense either way its very potent, clove oil does not increase testosterone it is the actual plant clove taken internally that only affects the male reproductive genitals (which I do not have) you may be thinking of red clover which despite many touting it as estrogenic has been shown in studies to increase testosterone levels in both menopausal and post menopausal women so do with that what u will, clove OIL is actually great for circulation boosting same as cinnamon oil, I dont know about the benefits of taking clove internally though Ive never heard of that infact clove oil should not be taken internally as it is potentially harmful if taken internally. The plant though I do not know.

Yeah i also read that clove shouldn't be take orally in large amount because it has something harmful, sometime a little bit as spice in food is ok. Ok even though i ask you this but i will try to figure it out by myself, experiment by myself. Thank you for your enthusiasm.

[Bustyprincess]

Oh thank you. I have sunflower oil in hand. Thanks so much for the information.

Nws doll!  " alt="" title="">

I used to read your program and i have wondered how many ml of oil do you use, like how many ml of sunflower oil do you use each time you make infused oil, i remember your oil includes : 4x500mg goats rue, fenugreek, fennel..... 2 full dropper vial of watermelon oil, how many ml is one dropper vial cuz i searched and it may be 25ml? It seems that you put clove eso, my pm pill contains clove powder too, i dont know its benefit but i may give it a try. I can't find info of clove in this forum so i google searched and one page said clove may increase testosterone ? I really dont know how many gr of herbs in many ml of oil, i will try to look into your recipe.

The clove is in a mixed ESO blend of cinnamon and orange, I use 10 drops, then 10 drops of lavender ESO, and 10 drops of Tea tree ESO, the bottle of watermelon seed oil I get is 59ml and I use two full dropper vials so you will have to figure that out sorry, as for the amount well I use these little travel bottles and once filled with all the herbs and oils etc I fill to the brim with sunflower oil I dont know how to explain the amount without showing you the bottle lol so you will have to make up as you go with my recipe as a baseline if that makes sense either way its very potent, clove oil does not increase testosterone it is the actual plant clove taken internally that only affects the male reproductive genitals (which I do not have) you may be thinking of red clover which despite many touting it as estrogenic has been shown in studies to increase testosterone levels in both menopausal and post menopausal women so do with that what u will, clove OIL is actually great for circulation boosting same as cinnamon oil, I dont know about the benefits of taking clove internally though Ive never heard of that infact clove oil should not be taken internally as it is potentially harmful if taken internally. The plant though I do not know.

Yeah i also read that clove shouldn't be take orally in large amount because it has something harmful, sometime a little bit as spice in food is ok. Ok even though i ask you this but i will try to figure it out by myself, experiment by myself. Thank you for your enthusiasm.

Not sure whether you are being sarcastic and rude but goodluck with that! My recipe is in my program thread if you cannot read thats not my problem.