Dec 16
Visually noticing some difference, though unsure if that is going to translate in the measurments. I look and feel fuller but my period is supposed to start in 5 days so it could just be from that.
I won't measure until my cycle is finished and swelling goes down to get a more accurate measurement.
Unfortunately at the beginning of this week I was sick, dealing with migraines which make me nauseous and makes it difficult to eat/take supplements. I also was basically just laying in bed most of the days. So I missed out on a day or two of massage or didn't go as long as I usually do.
I suspect it might have been from taking too high a dose of vitamin C + MSM. I read that it taking high doses of Vit C can cause detox symptoms, like migraines and body aches ect...on top of other factors causing a flare up.
Unfortunately I deal with migraines a lot so I had to lower the dose of MSM by 1000mg and only take 1000mg of vit c every other day.
I have plans to buy a lower dose vit c soon, along with borage oil, kelp for iodine and DIM, as I think those things will help reduce fibroid tissue and better keep myswlf in balance.
Still waiting for progesterone cream, it looks like it might be here sooner rather than later. Hoping it comes in time for me to start it right after my period so I can start next month with it and hopefully seeing more drastic results.
The holidays are making everything super busy and being at my BF's while also visiting family, I know I will probably miss out on a few days of massage ect.
I'm still using the Bella cream. My last tube of it is half finished, I'm using in conjuc with the oils as well, but when imI'm not home iI use the cream only by itself.
I feel like it actually is helping but maybe it's just placebo.
Still taking my pill sups daily, and hopefully even through the hoilday iI'm able to be consistent.
I haven't seen any significant changes from adding vitex or saw palmetto yet, or it's been too soon to tell.
I'm over halfway through the bag of soy flour and I'm not sure if I'm going to buy a second bag and continue it yet.
So far I've definitely noticed weight gain/fat gain from it...but it causes me to be very bloated, even more than I already am, and adding fat to my tummy which I don't want.
I'm glad to have found something I know can help me gain and I will f be using it for that in the future...but so far for chest gains....im not sure if it's doing much.
Besides the few days I was sick, I've been taking it with ground flaxseed twice a day. I want to say it's helping? But it doesn't feel significant enough to justify buying another bag yet.
I have some sups that are phytoestrogens that may take it's place once I'm finished the bag.
Dec 27
It's been a hectic week wow. I haven't even been able to update for so long.
Between xmas and then also getting sick I basically completely fell off any NBE stuff besides using Bella Cream and FG oil once after a shower in the mornings, but not everyday.
I stopped taking all of the supplements just because I didn't want to put more pressure on my stomach and body. Have just been dealing with xmas and then recovering. Also taking mass amounts of vitamin C and zinc and didn't want it reacting negatively with anything.
I'm slowly starting to feel better now but my cycle just started this morning. Actually was freaking me out because I was 5 days late. Unsure if that has anything to do with he chaste berry and saw palmetto I added to my regime or the fact I've been sick? Really don't know.
But I did get the progesterone I order come today and I'll be adding it to my routine when my cycle ends.
So I'm not starting back up with my NBE supplements until after my period is over to give my body and hormones enough time to be normal. Then I will go back to having chasteberry/vitex and saw palmetto 2x a day, adding in the 3 pumps of PC cream a day.
Currently ordering borage oil, DIM, Iodine and maybe primrose oil for topical use as well.
Notes:
I think I'm done my experiment with soy flour for now.
What I can say about it is that it DEFINITELY helped maintain the weight I gained in november and I still gained a little bit while taking it. Unfortunately, it went to my stomach and lower half mostly and since I haven't started a good workout routine to add muscle mass, I'm just becoming squishy in sections I don't want....and it's not really adding anything to my chest.
I've mentioned it before, but I will be doing a weight gain program, possibly in a couple months when I have a workout routine in place, but as for now I just want to see chest growth, not stomach growth. So I will be removing the SF from my diet for a bit.
I think I will still take the ground flaxseed every so often as it helps with digestion but maybe every other day or something.
Full fat soy flour + soy milk, ground flaxseed + soy milk seemed to have helpe a bit with breast growth, but so far nothing significant or crazy. It's more noticable when adding daily consistent massage.
It very much adds fat all over the body (obviously because of the FULL FAT soy flour), so if you're not one to have your weight go to your chest, maybe avoid this method or add progesterone to your routine and daily massage to see better results.
If you're going to try it, I recommend using chocolate milk and a high speed blender to make it creamy as if you use just a shaker bottle like I did sometimes, it gets a bit clumpy. The blender makes it feel like a nice milkshake.
The flavor is kind of nutty, which definitely blends better with chocolate milk. You could probably add peanut butter or something similar to make it more palatable, some people really don't like the flavor at all which I can understand. I'm kind of weird and drink stuff that a lot of people probably find gross (green drinks ect) but there are definitely ways to make it more enjoyable, you could even blend it with icecream or something.
I don't drink cows milk so having regular icecream wouldnt work for me, and vegan icexream is just too expensive to use with this everyday, but if you do this method more close to the original with cows milk, in sure adding icecream or some sort of flavoring would be great.
The only annoying thing was making myself drink both the ground flax and the SF drinks seperate twice a day. It got kind of tedious, especially since I'm one to sleep in and be lazy. It also just felt like I was drinking so many things cause on top of those drinks, I would also be having detox tea and other types of tea for NBE. So it's just a lot of liquid to start and end my days.
Overall I liked the method, it just felt like a lot of extra steps, + buying multiple cartons of milk every week to keep up with 2x drinks a day, and then if I kept going I'd have to replace the soy flour and flax, and it just felt like a lot more money being spent when I could be taking an herb or tea to stimulate estrogen instead that might be easier.
Also, my body personally didn't respond the best as I suspect being E dominant and needing more progesterone anyways, this didn't necessarily give me huge gains.
I suspect when I try this method again with progesterone added that I might see gains, but for now I'm going to avoid taking anything for E and only focus on helping P and reducing T.
