[MMWTH]

Hello everyone!  

First time posting for me, long time lurker though. 
I’ve been dabbling with NBE and preparing with hormone panels as well as figuring out what I want most and seeing what results others get!  

 Previously I gained an inch with Fenugreek, shavarti, opti-msm freeze dried aloe, and vitamin C, but I want to take it up a notch.

  I’ve figured this new lineup will either work wonders, or leave me sad and helpless. 

Shavarti - 2400MG daily
Fenugreek - 2000MG daily
Goats rue tincture - hard to measure but about 40 drops as described on the packaging 2 times daily
Bovine Mammary - 2 supplements daily as directed
Puria Murifica - 1000mg daily (Currently using HOPS)
Saw Palmetto - 320mg daily
OptiMSM - 3000mg daily
Freeze dried aloe - 1500mg daily
Vitamin C - 1000mg daily
Domperidone - 60mg daily - 2 pills taken 3 times a day
Mini pill - as prescribed.

I understand this is an aggressive regime, but the goal is gigantomastia if I can get there. 

Any advice, ideas, or experience with this type of protocol would be nice!  Got a decent amount of my ideas from Surfer Joe, and The Mad Scientist Lady.  As well I’ll update this thread as I continue! 

[James98]

You should massage with Almond oil a few times a day and drink lots of water. Good luck!

[MadameBusty]

Hi hun, be very careful adding so many potent prolactin increasing herbs/supplements/medications especially Domperidone, too high prolactin gives false NBE gains, as seen in many breastfeeding women when they cease breastfeeding and their breasts shrink/shrivel, we want some prolactin but the main more permanent breast growth hormones are estrogen, progesterone, HGH, igf-1 and growth factors etc. 
You may very well increase milk storage big time so much so that this will deplete fat storage in the breasts. Just something to think about. More isn't always best with prolactin stuff you want some but not to be the main hormone and having mammary, Domperidone, fenugreek and goats rue all mixed together is going to make your prolactin levels shoot up hugely.  

[MMWTH]

Hi hun, be very careful adding so many potent prolactin increasing herbs/supplements/medications especially Domperidone, too high prolactin gives false NBE gains, as seen in many breastfeeding women when they cease breastfeeding and their breasts shrink/shrivel, we want some prolactin but the main more permanent breast growth hormones are estrogen, progesterone, HGH, igf-1 and growth factors etc. 
You may very well increase milk storage big time so much so that this will deplete fat storage in the breasts. Just something to think about. More isn't always best with prolactin stuff you want some but not to be the main hormone and having mammary, Domperidone, fenugreek and goats rue all mixed together is going to make your prolactin levels shoot up hugely.  

Thank you so much for the feedback! 

 If I may ask what would you change between all the prolactin support or supplements in general? 

  I understand it will boost my supply, I was hoping the domperidone in conjunction with the mini pill would give me large gains in that area, and to support the size and keep all or most of it by using progestin(progesterone) only birth control, HOPS for estrogen (I’m somewhat scared of puria murifica), bovine mammary for cell proliferation, MSM with aloe and vitamin C for collagen, IGF-1 (don’t know what promotes it with focus to the breast, so any recommendations will be deeply appreciated), and HGH (also don’t know where to find something for this).

  If you know any way I can get IGF-1 and HGH support without injections I’d be very happy,  the deer velvet is the only thing I’ve seen and it’s rather expensive.

[MadameBusty]

Nws love! 
So if I were you I would skip out on the Domperidone for a few reasons but, one being it increases prolactin quite alot, more than the others on their own,  2 would be that I've read it can cause a myriad of mental health issues in some, one being such severe depression that the person becomes suicidal, it can work for some without these mental health symptoms however it's definitely something to think about(I wouldn't risk my mental wellbeing for anything personally), goats rue and fenugreek don't typically have a high cause of mental health issues and are pretty tame, goats rue builds breast tissue not only boosts prolactin, fenugreek is amazing for some but it depends on your hormonal profile, personally I use fenugreek but infused in my oil recipe for massage so only topically(I have grown over the many years of nbe from a D/DD to a GG and then recently to a H)
Mammary is complicated, Tibetan princess(on here) aka fertility Queen on YouTube had a horrible experience way back with mammary which resulted in her breasts becoming liquid like and losing size, to which she went back to just BO and gained much success.
If I were you I would also switch out saw palmetto for something like white peony(make sure its paeonia lactiflora) this herb boosts the Aromatase enzyme which converts testosterone to estrogen, whereas saw palmetto blocks DHT the bad testosterone but also can be anti estrogenic and I have also heard some girls having increased cellulite on it(I don't want anymore lol)
I would also stick to the hops for now instead of the pueraria as usually pueraria isn't very safe to take with so many other estrogenic herbs and such but can be taken with things like pig placenta as shown many times with Asian NBE idols. For cell proliferation you can use pig placenta(porcine placenta extract) I personally use the one from DHC it has growth factors along with estrogen and progesterone etc. The thing is that if you were to grow from mostly prolactin and say stopped the prolactin source resulting in your prolactin levels plummeting your breasts may change quite a bit/shrink even with estrogen and progesterone, otherwise a healthy woman hormone wise wouldn't lose her breast size post breastfeeding. In saying that there are alot of women who manage to keep their breastfeeding gains even after ceasing so it's kind of a may or may not situation, but estrogen and progesterone with SOME prolactin is much more of a sure shot at gains/growth than just a heap of prolactin out competing the estrogen and progesterone(hope I'm making sense lol) 
With HGH and igf-1 there are a few ways! One of which you are already doing   MSM enhances growth hormone signalling/boosts growth hormone, other ways are supplements like a highish dose vitamin D3 which frees up estrogen and also increases igf-1, personally I've always taken 5000iu daily which has been very beneficial to me because I normally have very low levels as is. Lastly pig placenta extract increases igf-1 aswell! Another reason why I take it apart from the skin/beauty benefits and the other NBE benefits, just make sure its pig as this works the best rather than bovine placenta and the like. Stuff like Mucuna and deer velvet do increase HGH but it's a double edged sword as they can increase testosterone which obviously depending on your individual self some is healthy but boosting it won't help NBE infact it will impede it, there was another girl here who's period was late because she was taking Mucuna. Anyways hope I've helped! It's extremely late here so I am off to bed 

[MMWTH]

Hey everyone,

I changed things up after chatting with madame busty, goals have not changed but methods have.  I still did the domperidone program but eliminated BM, and Shavarti.  Recently stopped domperidone with weening off, and goats rue.  

  Went from a C cup to a DD cup so that was very nice, especially since I’ve been off the dom for a week and I’ve gone through the whole weening cycle. Domperidone isn’t something you should be on for a long time even though it can improve growth by a lot in a short time when mixed well. Luckily I did not learn that the hard way, but only after more research.  

I have a new line up that I’m rather excited about because it fills in the GH gap, and for me personally being plus sized I understand I don’t need any aromatase, but according to my hormone panel I do need more DHT inhibitors! 

Vitamin D3 5000 UI daily
Sawpalmetto 320 mg daily 
Red Reishi Mushroom 1000mg Daily 
Opti-msm 1500mg x2 daily 
Aloe freeze dried 500mg x3 daily
Vitamin C 1000mg daily 
L-citrulline 1500mg daily
Fenugreek 1800mg daily 
puria murifica 500mg x2 daily 
Progestin only birth control (mini pill) 

Will update with results!

[MadameBusty]

Yayyyy! So happy for you lovely   this program looks great it's really got everything you need, let me know how the aloe vera goes because I've always been curious to surfer Joe's idea about using it for NBE is! Also for even speedier results you can massage with a herbal infused oil of some sort(I also add essential oils for extra strength and benefits) I have a recipe on my thread for my one I've used for forever now or you could even just make one based off the steps there with simply fenugreek! I personally find a huge difference if I do my full program with massage versus without and definitely believe it's the key to how I'd grown so much over the years! If there is anything you need or if you just wanna chat feel free to reach out   I look forward to following your continued progress, it's so good when people come back to BN even if it's not as lovely as it used to be.

[Cutie]

Wow..  very fast progress...