sideways breast
April 15 2009 at 3:38 PM roakie (Login roakie)
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Have any Brava users noticed that one of their breasts is being pulled sideways in the dome? My left breast gets pulled toward the side immediately with suction and I am noticing it more and more. On the right, the nipple is head on. This happens even if I try to alternated the domes.
Also, the left nipple is developing a big crease underneath, even after the swelling goes down.
I am thinking I might try the bandage over the nipple suggestion.
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tr1gger
(Login tr1gger) Re: sideways breast April 15 2009, 5:56 PM
Bandaids help with the outrageous nipple swelling (and ultimate stretching). However the sideways breast issue is something else altogether. I imagine it has something to do with where the skin has more 'give'. It is probably stretching a little more towards the centre, therefore the tighter skin on the side of your breast is pulling the nip towards it. Playing with the positioning of domes is the only thing I can think of, although difficult. Those things just seem to want to go where they want to go! I've noticed that the domes sit differently on both sides of my chest, and that one of my breasts grows a little more under the arm, while the other is more head on. I think this is due to rib shape. I can assure you that you're not alone in it. And also that the discrepancy isn't as noticeable with the domes off and after the breasts have 'settled'. One of my domes always angles pointing towards the side somewhat (and pulls my boob with it), while the other one sits quite straight. I've tried endlessly to correct the way they sit, but they end up that way anyway. The one that points out to the side is the one that's growing more on the outer side, too.
On a different note, I left the domes on for a good 14 hours (I think that's about the longest time I've done in one go) and had some pretty enormous swelling last night. I had no idea my breasts could stretch that much! And by that much I mean it was big for me, not what someone else might consider enormous. When my husband saw them aside from expressing shock and calling me his new affectionate term 'big boobs' (which by the way, I'm far from that!) he also was concerned that on deflation they might be all stretched and I might be bringing on premature sagging issues. I've been concerned about that myself. I hope they eventually fill in with some permanent growth, or I fear I'll have damaged them unnecessarily. It's too late now, I have to keep going until I get something worth it all!
I did hear some stories of people who got nothing but sagging, but not as often as modest growth stories. Anyone else worried about this?
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roakie
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: sideways breast April 15 2009, 7:18 PM
I nursed three children and my morning swelling with Brava has never been anywhere near as big as I grew while nursing. After my nursing years, my breasts simply went back down to FLAT. I had a few stretch marks but the actual breast didn't sag since there was nothing in it! I haven't seen any signs that Brava is going to make my breasts any more saggy, either.
As for the sideways breast, I do have a rib-cage asymmetry so the right half of my ribcage is higher. That breast is developing more of a round shape, where the breast on the depressed side of the rib cage has less shape and roundness to it. It is more of a flattened mound.
Sounds beautiful, huh?
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tr1gger
(Login tr1gger) Re: sideways breast April 15 2009, 9:54 PM
flattened mound!! ha, sorry, don't mean to laugh, but its a very evocative description! I immediately thought of Ayers Rock (if you were an Aussie you'd know what I mean). It sounds better than the "shapeless bit of flesh" I remember you using in another post! I've been to a website that has hundreds of pictures of breasts that women have put up so that people are able to see what REAL breasts look like, because we've been so inundated by pictures in the media of seemingly 'perfect' breasts (usually fake). It's absolutely enlightening (although I can't for the life of me remember the name of it) because you suddenly realize that breasts are far more unique and much more weird than we've imagined in our narrow exposure to them. Almost *everyone* has mismatched breasts in some way or other, and almost everyone thought there was a problem with their breasts - until seeing all the other breasts on the website. What I learned; mine are still some of the smallest breasts I've ever seen, bar one or two exceptions, and that actually, I'm kinda glad! Wow, with the big ones, all sorts of things can happen - not in a bad way necessarily, but they're just SO different! I always thought I had enormous nipples, until I saw this site too, and realized their relatively on the smaller end of the scale...
Anyway, if you really want to see some mismatched/shaped boobs, do a search for the site and have a look whats really out there. There are women who have learned to be happy with themselves with one E cup breast and one almost B with no discernible nipple, among other amazing variants.
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: sideways breast April 15 2009, 9:59 PM
One of my boobs is at least 1/2 size bigger than the other. Picture this...when I was almost done breastfeeding my third baby, he preferred my right side (my bigger boob) and I noticed he would bite the left. Since I was weaning and he only nursed before bed and once in the morning, I let him nurse on the right and let my milk dry up on the left. My right boob was a D cup and my left side was a small B. Cute, huh?
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molehills
(no login) Re: sideways breast April 15 2009, 10:04 PM
yes, I remember seeing a site like that that was in Spanish. It had a lot of pictures from people in all age categories and was very positive in showing the beauty of all different kinds of breasts as well as the enormous variations.
On the dome issue, I have the opposite problem and it really bothers me...that is, my boobs point inwards so that even though they are far from filling the domes, the nipple is close to touching the inside, and sometimes does. So the outer side gets much more stretched and swollen in the dome. When I take them off it seems to look ok but the problem is I will run out of room in the dome. No matter how I try to position them it doesn't help as the problem is my breasts are too close together I guess, and the rim/silicon just takes up so much room in the middle even if I squeeze them together as much as I can...
so I guess it's true we're all oddly shaped one way or another
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StacyEllen
(no login) Re: sideways breast April 16 2009, 12:22 AM
I had exactly the same issue...even though technically the domes were plenty big, by morning my boobs were almost touching the inside rim of the dome...those bloody rims are too thick. I called brava about it and they didn't have much advice. She just assured me it was o.k. because most of my hours were spent sleeping, therefore my boobs were spread out and not touching anywhere...it was only while I was awake in the morning and upright that it seemed like my domes were too small.
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roakie
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: sideways breast April 16 2009, 4:56 AM
We should all design a side business selling "breast splints" designed to keep the nipples forward inside the Brava domes. Maybe we could start with various-sized tepees of popsicle sticks!
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tr1gger
(Login tr1gger) Re: sideways breast April 16 2009, 3:40 PM
haha! You crack me up Roakie, I love your self-deprecating humour. By the way, on the not very much swelling issue, is it you that's using a manual airlock with a good strong suction? I believe it is. This I can say with certainty after reading many posts seems to aid in the earlier onset of swelling. I think everyone gets it eventually, just that with the sportbox it seems to appear much later in the game. I just wanted to share with you that I believe I wouldn't be getting the swelling I am (which is really not the D cup swelling we hear of some women getting, rather from an AAA cup to a full A, and possibly a good size B even - though I don't wear bras, not much point at this stage), if I hadn't at first gone hell for leather with the Noogleberry system, and loosened things up and by absolute force caused the swelling cascade to appear. The thing with the NB domes, and this is by no means a plus in all areas, is due to the fact theres no silicone edge to worry about damaging, or that gets sucked into the dome with too strong a suction, you can really apply some pretty full on suction until the poor breast has no option but to swell. Of course it hurts your ribs like buggery, but if your as impatient as I was for results, you'll just go for it anyway! I think that with the reduced pressure in the brava domes (although FAR more comfortable I might add) I would never be getting this swelling by now. It is just a result of loosening up the tissue and setting the swelling cascade in, before using the brava, that it's happening at all for me this early in the game. Just a thought... So, if you really want some good swelling, you could always invest in a NB to do for a half hour a day to kick things along, or perhaps the Bosom beauty that many people have written has a strong suction and induces swelling in EVERYBODY, without question! I know that's an extra expense and a bit of a pain though. Otherwise, keep going with as strong a suction as you domes can take, and I'm sure you'll get those babies to respond someday soon!
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roakie
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: sideways breast April 16 2009, 4:18 PM
tr1gger - Actually, thanks to your earlier posts, I ordered the noogleberry pump! And yes, it provides far more swelling than the manual suction I was doing. I love it.
My main problem is that if I pump out too much air, the rims start to roll in so I need to be really careful about that. I usually try to pump out more air a few times before I go to sleep, and then again give it a final "pump and pull" in the morning for the last hour or so.
Thanks so much for that advice. Both the smartbox and manual suction was not really getting me anywhere.
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Anet
(no login) sideways breast April 16 2009, 7:21 PM
The problem with my domes was in the morning, my left nipple was too low (close to where the tubes go) it was about 1/2 inch away from touching the dome. I called my coach, she said you could eaither exchange it with no cost to deeper domes, or keep that and get a $100 discount on the deeper domes. I ordered the deeper domes, I haven't used them yet. After 2 weeks my nipple is much higher (right under the circle) I think that's good news, I don't know. Today I'm starting my 8th week, I don't see results yet. I just have to be patient until 16 weeks.
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tr1gger
(no login) Re: sideways breast April 16 2009, 7:37 PM
I do the same thing exactly! Well, the only other thing you could do as per the other post (but I'm not suggesting it's entirely necessary, as it sounds like everything is well underway with you) is get some of those nasty hard edged domes, I've heard the BB ones are better than the NB ones due to a curved base, just to get some big suction, perhaps before strapping on Brava for the night - you can definitely get more with them. That said, I haven't seen the need to do it myself yet, mainly because with the NB or BB you need some lubrication to get a seal, which would then mean washing it all off again before putting Brava on. Bit of a pain, mind you, I remember reading about Louise combining Brava with BB. My NB domes were less than $30, not sure about the BBs, and I'm happy to have them, because I may consider using it after a decent break from the (probably 16 wk) brava cycle as a short daily treatment perhaps in the warmer months, until I do another brava cycle next winter. I've been told Brava is positively gross in the summer months with the sweating and itching, so I'm going to try to stop before it's too hot. I'm committed until August though...can't remember how hot it is then yet as I've only been in the US for 3 1/2 years.
I got this idea from a lady name 'catsrule' on the NB forum. She loves and uses both systems, in the way I described above. She believes that there is a maximum length of time you should use brava for best results (I think she thinks up to 20 weeks is a max amount, but prefers 15) and in fact has been using the brava every winter, followed after a break with NB daily during the warmer months. This keeps her breasts remembering to swell, but also allows a decent healing period. She has been doing this for 4 years I believe, and has gone from AAAA to a full C. Also, due to the nature of NB not being so consuming of your life, I guess it stops you from exhausting yourself on the quest for breasts. This way, she looks forward to the winter and her next brava cycle. Both systems have given her definite growth, but Brava's long wear time definitely kicks things along. Both the systems also give a different shape to the breasts, which she likes, as she feels that she can shape her breasts to grow the way she likes. Brava gives a lovely natural teardrop shape but apparently sends them 'cock-eyed' or pointing out to the sides, whereas the NB gives a nice fullness to the tops and round shape and has brought her cleavage much more closely together, due to the lack of thick rims.
Just an idea...I'm into it, and am going to try it, mainly because I purchased the NB first to try, so I'm thinking what the heck, when I'm done with the first brava cycle, I'm on a roll, may as well continue getting the lovely swelling I've grown accustomed to, as well as continuing to grow - also don't mind the idea of cleavage. I'm not suggesting you spend more money now, just sharing the info I've gleaned from hours of study of different breast suction forums. Most people are definitely sold on one or another technique.
Oh, just remembered, I've got a pair of medium NB's I can't use anymore, which I only got a weeks use out of. I could send you those if you'd like to try it. What size brava dome are you using? If you're using their mediums, you should be fine. I'm on the wide/larges. There isn't the same issue with second hand use as with the brava domes as they are just hard plastic that clean up perfectly. I was making good headway filling my larges when starting brava, and might be there by the end of brava (hopefully), so it's possible I could give you those too, after I've checked again in a few weeks. I've got the XLs in preparation! But lordy be, they hurt so bad on the poor ribs! 15 mins max with those babies! I think I remember you talking about having quite a wide chest measuremeant like me (31"), and rather developed pecs. Also with already swelling with Brava, the larges might fit you. BTW, NB domes definitely help gives some cover to overly muscly pecs, more than the Brava domes, as they build tissue closer together, kind of between where the pec starts. I know what you mean about the pecs (if its you I'm thinking of), because I've noticed it too, with mine, and could really tell on the lady on the Brava site who went an entire year and got a mammogram....still looked lovely though on her. Nice toned boobs that went with her physique.
Anyway, a bunch of stuff to think about there!!!!!
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Anet
(no login) sideways breast April 17 2009, 5:41 AM
Thank you for the information. I think I will stick to Brava for now and see what happens.
How long have you been doing Brava? Have you seen any results?
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roakie
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: sideways breast April 17 2009, 7:27 AM
When just using noogleberry during breaks from Brava, how many times a day do you pump and for how long? With Brava, it takes all night for me to get any major swelling that stays. My breasts start small and by morning they are pretty good sized and then they gradually get smaller by evening. With noogleberry, I don't see how I could achieve much if I just kept domes on for an hour. Though I guess if I am hearing you right, domes without the silicone rims produce much more swelling initially, is that right?
I have zero fat on my ribcage so I am afraid rims with no silicone would be torture. I don't know how I would do that????
I would like to develop more tissue closer to my sternum, though, rather than looking at bones. I wonder if it would work if I ripped off the silicone from my old domes and used some small cushiony padding (like a cut yoga mat as mentioned in another post)
But again, how much would I need to pump during the day to maintain swelling? And I don't understand how you pump more than about ten times with the noogleberry pump. When I put the domes on initially, if I were to keep pumping, the suction would get way to much. Is it that the Brava domes keep the air in, while the noogleberry domes keep letting the air out so over the course of an hour, you are continuously pumping?
I don't get the difference between the two systems other than the silicone rims on the domes.
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tr1gger
(Login tr1gger) Re: sideways breast April 17 2009, 4:02 PM
Sorry Anet, I didn't see your post there, I was talking to Roakie, but forgot to put her name! She mentioned she'd been using the Noogle pump, and I was just tossing around ideas on how to amplify things to the max!! You're right to stick with Brava, I believe it works, just takes a little longer for some. I also think that for some people who just don't seem to respond with much swelling, more suction is needed...hence my chat with Roakie.
Roakie, yes, and yes. As in yes, you do get as big amount of swelling in one hour that you get all night on brava (for me, even more actually). The reason is that you can use far more suction, when you're not worried about the silicone rolling in. It's pretty amazing actually, how you can pump those babies up. It's not really the expanding tits that hurt, those seem to be able to take it pretty well, but glory be, those edges do dig into your ribs to let you know about it if you go too far, or too long! And yes, you certainly could try it with an old pair of domes with the silicone ripped off. Make sure they're done for though, those things aren't cheap. Or, alternatively, just go for it with them on, if you're not worried about damaging them....not sure if all that sucked in silicone would be a pain though, and the plastic would dig in anyway!
And you're swelling sounds pretty great anyway. Sounds about like mine, and I'm happy. It's a good option to have if you tire on your one year quest on brava (wow!) and can't keep it up for some reason. You could keep things going if you opted for two shorter brava cycles for instance with an hour or two daily using the noogle pump and max suction. Just an idea. I think theres different ways to get to the end result. But you're definitely doing well anyway, so don't mind me and my ponderings!
tr1gger
(Login tr1gger) Re: sideways breast April 17 2009, 7:02 PM
in answer to your question about the NB domes Roakie, no, they don't let any air out, it's just that with the higher suction you can apply, the boobs stretch up more, and as they do, you pump a bit more and so on for an hour or so (or even 1/2hr for some women). There is no difference between the domes except lack of cushioning.
