[girlfriday29]

Hey TM,

That's annoying that you feel you have had limited progress over the last month.

The only thing I can think of is doing what crystalelle proposed and getting some generic BO like swansons and ramping up your dosage with that in conjunction with BB. She wrote about it in her program page.

I know we say that you don't have to have pains to get growth. But, what happens if you have had growth with pains, and then don't get growth without pains.... doesn't that mean no pains = no growth...

I was thinking about this because I have had limited breast sensations in the past 2 weeks of my cycle 4 on BO. And when I increased the BO dosage I got mega pains again. In fact, when I look back on my program, each time I started to get less pains, I increased the dosage slightly and got more pains.....

So that is one thought. What is your BMI? Because I remember crystalelle saying that she had a low BMI and that it was hard for her to put on weight, and that is why she wanted to take a higher dosage.
I guess another method would be to take an extra dosage of BB, (although that would be more expensive!).

The only other things I can think of is:

Is your temp at a good level?
Do you take DIM? DIM reportedly helps take out the extra bad estrogen so you shouldn't need to do a cleanse.

Other than that, maybe you could sit tight for another month, and if there is still no difference in the way your breasts feel, then you could change your program a bit.

I too have found that my breasts are widening more and like you say they seem to start right under my armpits now.

Anyhow, good luck!

[Anastasia916]

Yep, your breasts will widen before they grow outwards, I have heard that from everyone and experience that myself. That is why I don't go by the tape measure for my progress. I go by how they look, how they feel, how they fit in my bras and hands, etc. The tape measure is a demon! I do measure just for kicks, but I don't care if it really changes, only that I'm seeing changes otherwise. On the acne issue, I use St. Ives apricot scrub then to collagen face moisturizer after or I use a kit from Nature's Cure, the papaya one. Both are not very expensive and are what I have found to work for me over the years of trying basically everything there is lol. I have had acne since I was 11, so 12 years! I still have the occasional break out even with using these products that work, but it's nowhere near as bad as without them!

On the sensitive nipples while massaging thing, I gave my thoughts on this on the other thread haha, sorry.

girlfriday, isn't it amazing how we WANT to be in pain? LOL and once we are are so excited LOL. I had severe pains once per month while on BO, like so bad even brushing up against something with them made me cry (and I have a high pain tolerance!). I couldn't sleep on my sides or tummy when it was like this, it generally lasted a few hours at a time for a week or so, constantly all day, there was maybe an hour between of rest LOL. And the hilarious thing, eventhough I was in agony, I was excited about it LOL. The week or so after when they stopped, I usually had a little bit of growth each time. So for me pain, tingling and the deep tissue itching sensation are my growing signs, if I don't have them, I generally don't grow. I get soreness from NB and usually after am a lil bit bigger. Or I have like a butterfly type feeling like you get in your tummy, but in my chest if that makes sense lol. So with NB my growing signs are a lil different, but the excitement is still there when I have them. Crazy what we go through for boobs LOL.

[twister_mama]

lled34AA - My nipples don't get painfully sensitive from the rotations. I don't know why. I just make sure the palms of my hands are centered over my nipples, and I'm careful to not be rubbing my hands over them - I keep my hands firmly planted in that same spot on my breasts and move the entire breast around, so there's really not much friction on the nipples. I do get itchy around the nipples sometimes later though.

Thanks for the acne suggestions lled34AA and Anastasia. I will see if I can get ahold of some of those items next time I go shopping, or online. I'm getting to the point where I'm considering wearing a paper bag over my head when I leave the house lol. Yeah it's that bad.

You could be right about the no pains=no growth, girlfriday. I feel I had better progress when I used to have good pains. My BMI is exactly 21.0, so that's normal. And my temp is running right around 98.5 or 98.6, so that's OK too. As far as Swanson's BO and some DIM, I actually have both of those in my medicine cupboard right now. I had ordered them last summer to try. I think I had tried both for a couple weeks and noticed less pains, so I quit them. But I was taking so much other stuff back then, who knows what really happened? I'm willing to try to ramp up with the BO now. I think when I tried it last summer, I only took one extra BO capsule with my nighttime BB dose. Maybe I should start with that and see what I feel for a week or two??? I wish I could just take an extra BB pill, but I'm down to just a couple weeks' worth now; and they are expensive. The only other thing I could try now would be a short break from the BB pills; like for a week. But I REALLY don't want to do that, cuz I'm afraid I'll lose the fullness I gained back since I restarted my program in December. I think I'll wait until I take my new pics tomorrow and see for sure that there is no visible change from January. Then I'll try to figure out what to add, how much, and at what times. Sigh.

I ordered a bra that's a 34AA. It's a Wacoal petite pushup one. I'm tired of being depressed about how empty the 34A bra that I wear is. I really hope when it comes in that it fits me better! It's obvious I'll be that size for quite some time yet, so might as well get one that *should* fit. I just hope it isn't so heavily padded that it makes me look ridiculous. If anyone knows of any bras in a AA size that are NOT thickly padded, and aren't designed for teenagers, I'd love to hear about them!!!

[twister_mama]

Well that Wacoal bra was VERY padded, made me look ridiculous, and I didn't even completely fill it! So now I feel worse. Back to my gappy 34A. At least it's not totally empty! I fill it about 3/4.

I'm still doing massage (squeezes) and Chi rotations. I do about 3x as many on my smaller right side; and as a result, I've been feeling a little achy at times on that side alone. I've also been doing my Easy Curves chest exercises twice a day, followed by my protein drink. The past two days I've noticed that my breasts are a teeny bit more teardrop shaped; and that area around my nipples is sticking out a little more, pushing my nipples out a teeny bit more. I was getting a little confused, cuz my measurements the past couple weeks were only reaching like 33.5" whereas I used to get up to 34.25" at times. All I could figure was that maybe the massaging and rotations were shifting the fat around to make my breasts rounder (which they definitely appear rounder since doing the rotations), and as a result took a little off my outward protruding measurement. I didn't let it get me down, though, cuz I could tell that my breasts were at least the same size as they were a few weeks ago, when I measured more. I could tell because there was "more" breast filling my hands when I do the rotations. I measured today for the heck of it, and got somewhere around 34.25". Although I'll probably be back down to 33.5" tomorrow, lol. I don't really care what it says anyway. I've learned to trust my own "measurement" of growth. If they feel bigger, and look bigger, then they probably ARE bigger.

Well I took new pics this evening. And, as I predicted, there was little to no visible change from the late January pics. Not that I was expecting any! I sent them to Erika at BB anyway. I will need to get more pills really soon, since my last day of BB pills is March 22nd. Oh well; maybe there will be more change in 4 1/2 months.

Here's the front view. The first pic is the January one; the second one is from tonight. There's like no difference. The top part of my chest might be a teeny bit "beefier" in the new one; but that's about it, from what I can see. I tried to cinch the cups of the bikini top closer together in my new pic, cuz that's how it was when I took my "before" pic; and I wanted to replicate it as closely as possible.

[twister_mama]

Here's the diagonal view pics. The first one is the late January one; the second one is from this evening.

[twister_mama]

For comparison purposes, here's the "before" pic from June 2010 and the new pic I just took this evening; front view.

[twister_mama]

And finally, the "before" pic and the new pic from this evening, the diagonal view.

[eva_bs]

Hi Dear!TM!!!!
You are doing just great dear!!!! Keep up the hard work! I am sure that in the end that your breasts will be the best testimonial on the BB site!
On your diagonal picture I can see a difference. It's not a HUGE difference but there is a difference!!! YIPEE!!!!
I know how it feels when you are stuck in the A bra size and can't grow to a B! I am there too!
But we must be strong and continue to take the BB's until we will get to our goal right?!
I can see that you grew some cleavage you have more fat in the middle! Yay!!!!
Thank you so much for updating us all on your progress!
Good Luck dear! And don't give up! you are on the right way to bigger boobs!
Eva.

[lled34aa]

i hate heavily padded bra too. have you tried calvin klein perfectly fit push up bra? i'm a 34aa but they only carry 34a so buy that anyways. i like the way it fits. granted i don't get the "push-up" effect, but at least i'm sort of filling in the cups (on a good day) and it gives a nice shape.

[Run.Rabbit]

I can definitely, 100% see a difference from June to March in both your front and side view. You said that you've knocked a couple of A's off right? That's a pretty big accomplishment, especially because you were able to stay so thin! You make me miss my flat stomach.

Good luck girl, you're gettin' there!