[justdoll]

Hi everyone!
I'm new to this Pueraria Mirifica rave! Although I know its been around for quite a while now.

I've been taking FG, SP, WY, and drinking soy milk in combination for my NBE program. Also doing chi massages everyday..however it seems that it isn't working as well as i had hoped for. I know persistence is the key ingredient in all NBE programs..but I am always on the lookout for additions or changes to the program for better results.

Being on this thread has thoroughly convinced me that i should start on PM. However, it seems like many people has been getting their PM from different sources.

If all you ladies don't mind, could you just tell me where you get your PM? Your thoughts on the service (if applicable) and if it cost you an arm and a leg or was it a decent price.

I live in Canada so if you know of any retail chains that hold PM that would be great. I am also open to internet sources as well.

I've read many of the posts here, and i am aware that a few of you have posted links. But i just want some input and thoughts about that particular company, the purity of the PM they provide, and whether you would recommend it.

Sorry for the long post!

[sfem]

No retail chains in Canada sell PM that I am aware of. If someone knows of one, I'd love to hear about it.

A number of us order online from Ainterol. The product has been very effective for me and others on this forum. Because it comes from Thailand, the first shipment seems to take 8-12 weeks to arrive. If you track the package, you'll find it spends almost all of that time sitting in Vancouver customs. The second time you order and so on it arrives in a week or so. Something about Vancouver customs is strange. If the product isn't an issue for them, and apparently it isn't, then I don't know why they hold the first shipment for so long. You will also find they open the package. In my first and second orders, they opened a bottle inside the package. The third shipment was unopened. I don't know what their malfunction is.

[luisa]

Hi, I buy my PM cream from Biovea, Germany and it looks like Biovea, Canada sells the same product:
http://bioveacanada.com/%28S%28p0quazqcezbc502ivefeeo45%29%29/product_detail.aspx?PID=2437&CID=0&OS=204
The PM capsules are also available on their website.
I have ordered a few items from the German company so far and received all packages (including the PM cream) in 1-2 days. I have been only using the cream for two weeks and have not seen any real growth yet (they do look a bit swollen though), otherwise I like the bottle and the cream itself. There is another user on this board who is using the same product and is growing from it.

[carlaa1124]

SFEM .............All of the Pm comes from Thailand........for some reason

Anterol wants or thinks its cheaper to make it there...........Standards in Thailand are horrible

[EvaKo87]

SFEM .............All of the Pm comes from Thailand........for some reason

Anterol wants or thinks its cheaper to make it there...........Standards in Thailand are horrible

In fact ALL real Pueraria Mirifica comes from Thailand because that's the only place it growns and the law protects the plant and the root so you can't export live plants, just dry root or powder made in Thailand. Even PM from Japan or Hawaii for that sake, comes from northern Thailand. But I can see you can buy MiroHealth from Anne Selene in Canada too and pay with Canadian Dollars http://ca.anne-selene.com/ShopDetails.cf...010002-060

So if you Carlaa did not buy from Thailand then you're taking some of the many fake stuff that comes from other plants in the same family or parts of the waste from the production of the best qualities around (it takes 22 lbs. or 10Kg to produce 2.2 lbs. or 1Kg good quality PM. The rest is sold as "waste").

As far as I know, the Thai government only allows for export of ready products and the standard in Thailand is as good as any other countries because herbs are a huge industry for Thailand and they can't afford to have bad standards for sure.

I buy my herbs and creams as well as serum from Anne Selene in Thailand and I'm sure their products are not only good but also very safe compared to many other brands that pay less attention to ensuring that what you get is clean and good.

I would never buy from e-Bay or from dormant UK companies because after all PM is classified as food supplement and I like to know whom are selling the "food" I eat - or creams I use for that sake.

[carlaa1124]

BACK AT YOU ............WE HAVE A 1000 ACRE FARM AND FACTORY IN THAILAND........You have a way of telling me what I already knew over that 12 years and making it sound like a revelation!


But in fact many wild Pueraria Mirifica grows though out Thailand not just the NORTH....and now alot is coming in from Laos and Burma.

Why is that important because it is very, very remote. The crude processing and travel time to market surely compromises it. So much of that extraordinary wild pueraria mirifica you think is coming from Thailand is actually from LOAS AND MYANMAR because it is very cheap.

You get what you pay for.

[Ginie]

Hi EvaKo87 are you sure that Thailand doesn't allow import of raw material, only ready products? I didn't know I ordered Robust PM (Siriporn) which is made in USA from Pueraraprem which is produced in Thailand. Does this mean that they lie? Or did I misunderstand you?

[justdoll]

@ sfem: Yes, I am looking at Ainterol as an option as I see many here have had great results using it! WOW 8 – 12 weeks? That’s good to know, or else I would start to freak out not knowing where my boobie pills went! How long did it take for ainterol to start working for you? You are taking FG,WY, ..and other herbs in combination is that right? Thanks so much for the input I really appreciate it!

@luisa: Yes and it seems like PM cream also gives you super soft and silky skin  I am definitely a German product fan! How are you finding the pills? I might just start with the pills first and work my way up. I set an NBE budget for myself so I don’t invest too much money all at once! I hope the PM cream works well for you! Pls keep me postedd!!!

@ Evako87: Are you also using Anne Selene now? I’ve never heard of this brand, and its great you brought it up because I do want to compare the different products out there before committing to one. Are you currently on Anne Selene as well? Did it work well for you? How long did it take for you to see results? ……. Sorry for bombarding you with question! … I’m just really excited starting PM when the majority of reviews shows such effective and positive results!

[sfem]

I was on FG/Fennel/occasional SP for a year before trying PM. When I changed to PM, I kept on the FG at a low dose for digestive benefit. I felt the difference on PM within a few weeks. The growth was unmistakable within a couple of months.

These days, I only take the PM. 1000mg a day, although some days I only take 500mg.

[carlaa1124]

THAT IS A SILLY THOUGHTLESS NOTION. Thailand allows export of raw materials.........for mfg.............they just want it in a form that you CAN GROW!!!!!!!!!! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Must of the wild Pm now in Thailand is coming from LOAS AND BURMA..ITS CHEAP...........it enhances the junk notion

its not a quality issue no one gives a damm. Pueraria mirifica is reduced by a factor of 8 after DESSICATION. It not any better than what you start with.........if its not done right its compromised. Much of it probably is compromised if its wild. Why... no onsite dessication equipment

So far quantit[/u]ative testing suggest this