[Ginie]

Eba_bs, you can find three examples of BBT charting on my program page (progesterone deficiency, estrogen deficiency, p-e deficiency), what does you chrt look like? I would say 36,33 after O is way too low! It indicates progesterone deficiency probably. Does you temperature drop before ovulation and before period? I would say the difference in temperature between follicular phase and luteal phase should be at least 0,5 or more. For example, 36,0-36,3 in follicular and 37 in luteal. And there should be a significant drop before O and before period. Also, you should be very careful with how you measure. You do it first thing in the morning, don't move before it (don't stand up or sit up), you should get not less than 6 hours of sleep before you measure, you should measure at the same time every day. I think you know all these things since this is your birth control method.

[EvaKo87]

Ginie. You make me smile. ALL YOUR posts is about St. Herb and the other one. Did you ever think of THAT? So you see the fact is just we tell about what we use and we can't tell about what we don't use.

Having said that I did choose Anne Selene because of their support and the price compared to St. Herbs who charges US$110.00 for 50g breast cream when I can buy 100g for US$143.20 from Anne Selene (would have costed US$220 from St. Herbs). Beside that Anne Selene's breast cream has also vitamin E oil in it so that's an additional value. Anne Selene has also gift offers so I got several Anne Selene T-shirts, necklaces made in real stones, wallets and more. I also get purchase points which I can claim in additional free products. I haven't seen any other websites offering this? Another thing is when I get free gifts THEY pay the postage, not me LOL

So I hope you understand what I mean. You tell about St. Herbs (good brand) becuse you choosed to use this, and I tell about Anne Selene (good brand) because I did choose to use this.

Beside all this, Anne Selene's company are far better on support than St. Herbs and others because they don't vasting time answering their e-mails.

[eva_bs]

Ginie,
I know all those stuff. I use the "Lady Comp".
My temp before ovulation is around the 3.0-3.1. when I ovulate it goes to 35.85-36.9.
And after i ovulate it goes up to 36.3.
only once my body temp went up high 36.9. I got so scared that I was preg....hahahahahahaha... but that was only one day.
the day that I get my period my body temp dropes to 36.1 and that's how I know that I am going to have my period that day.
I will try to read the charts on your program...
Thanks!
Eva.

[Ginie]

EvaKo, you should have taken time to at least glance at my program. Then you would have known that I started long time ago with herbs, continued on Fengfui's program (I'm sure you don't even know what that is), then I was taking a generic BO and after that I started with PM. Yes, it is all in my program. Where is yours?

Have I ever said anything bad about products which I don't use? And yet this is exactly what you're doing - you said that PM UK contains mold and fungus (btw, we're still waiting for you to publish the results of those lab tests you did), you said that Siriporn PM is made in China - (where is the proof?).


You're the only one I know who "uses" anne-selene products and I would gladly go study your page but unfortunately I can't find any details about your progress, nothing at all. Should I take your word for it? I don't think so, especially having other people's programs where they share their everyday experience in NBE. I decided to buy St.Herb and Siriporn because these two people had most success with and shared the details so I knew they were genuine.

I bought both st.herb and siriporn to test and I don't push St.Herb at all. I write about pros and cons. Also please don't confuse people, St.Herb cream costs 45USD for 100gr, not 110USD as you wrote, it lasts one month, so far I used one tube. But it is still pricey in my opinion. That was why I also bought Siriporn, it is cheaper than St.Herb but many girls gew on it. From Siriporn I also ordered serum and soap, serum is believed to work better but it's too expensive in St.Herb. As for customer support of St.Herb and Siriporn - I can't complain, they did answer all my emails, both of the companies.

And if I am to continue with PM longer, guess what - I'm going to buy something else! Ainterol, Uk PM, purafem, there're many to choose from. And I will put my results of comparisson here for everyone to know.

[EvaKo87]

I think you are getting really silly girl. Beside this the US$ 45 is 15ml = 15gram and you can't use 15 gram for a month! (unless you're a bird?) So the question is whom is telling the truth? You or me? Well here is the answer!

http://shopping.stherb.com/pueraria-miri...ducts.html

But I'm not here to argue, I'm not here to "prove" what results I've got from MiroHealth and I'm not asking you to belive me. I mean does it matter if you believe me or not?

Anyhow on the silly US website of yours there is no address, they use @yahoo.com address, they says it's "made in USA" ... You make me laugh but THAT you believe right? But when I say I use MiroHealth that you don't belive?? Makes me wondering whom you really are or WHAT you are?

And if you want to take the PM from UK, please do so as would never stop you or anyone from doing so, and if you want to test it mold and fungus, please go and test it but don't ask me to post the results because you already said they are so good. You can test them for free on universities or for money on almost any hospital I guess. But I did not test it for you or others, I did test it for myself because I wanted to know if it was safe or not and since it was not, it made me search for someting which is safe.

All what I do is to do some background check to see whom is selling the PM and so far the only two real companies I've seen here is St. Herbs and Anne Selene's products, both from Thailand, one from Bangkok and one from Chiang Mai, that's all.

[sfem]

Don't bother asking evako for any supporting info for her claims. Everything she posts shows her to be a promoter for her specific company. No, I won't mention the name, she mentions it enough for all of us combined. She is also one of the few who constantly writes that everyone else's product is bad, just like carlaa. She only has derogatory comments for other companies, products and people. Her refusal to post her test result that she claims is the basis for her belief that all other products and companies are worse than hers shows very clearly that her claims are without basis.

Do yourself a favour. Put evako on your ignore list right next to carlaa. Your life will improve. There are many worthwhile posters on this forum and others without these two marketers.

If you think they are worth your time, then I would like to offer you some of the grass from my front yard. It is the only grass from a real yard, the others are all yahoo fakes and grow in china. I tested them and they all have inferior dirt to mine in them. I have test results that prove this, but I won't share them with you because you don't vasting time emailing.

[EvaKo87]

Now THAT was a very intelligent posting I must say sfem , but I learned one thing from you though, I put you on the ignore list

But the truth is, I don't mind if there were millions selling PM and if anybody can show me a company as good as Anne Selene with the same prices, support and gifts, well then I might change but for now I'm just more than happy buying from them and they does not cause me any problems.

The other "you" whomever you are, I wish you good luck with your health, wallet and believs

[soonenough]

Hi Dear.
Why did you stop taking PM if you liked what it did for you?
Because the period?

I was scared when my period ran late. 33 days for me is a long cycle since I've always been around 25 days. Yeah, I stopped because PM was strong enough to delay my period that long. I didn't want to take the chance that PM may disrupt my regular cycle.

[soonenough]

Are you sure about the dosage? Probably you meant 400mg, 200mg, so on? St.Herb pill contain 200mg. I took two a day.

You're right, I meant to say 400 mg(4 pills with each pill 100mg), 200mg(2 pills with 100 mg each). Anyway, the cheap pink PM (thanyaporn) has 300 mg with 100 mg PM. I don't know the filler ingredients which comprises the 200 mg weight. All I know is that the 100 mgPM in each pill is strong enough to change my cycle. Philli from the noogleberry site has been using this 2005 so this cheap brand had been around for that long or even longer.

400 mg is a very reasonable dose, I think. I didn't get the chance to test that dose in my body. The first cycle I took PM I only took 2 pills (200mg), and I got my period on the 25th as usual. The second cycle I upped the dose to 400mg(4 pills) and then to 600mg(6 pills). The funny thing is when I looked at my journal, I grew about the same amount, 0.5" in the first cycle of taking 200mg a day. I I grew 0.5" on the second cyle of taking 400mg to 600mg. Who knows? I was also faithfully noogling, massaging, and eating boobie food. I didn't take any other supplement. That was really nice, taking break from all those pills. I even dropped MSM and just drank chicken feet broth.

I don't know. I think fengshui and tigerlily's program work on its own. For all I know, that's what propelled the growth mainly, but adding PM and noogling aided somewhat???

[Ginie]

Don't bother asking evako for any supporting info for her claims. Everything she posts shows her to be a promoter for her specific company. No, I won't mention the name, she mentions it enough for all of us combined. She is also one of the few who constantly writes that everyone else's product is bad, just like carlaa. She only has derogatory comments for other companies, products and people. Her refusal to post her test result that she claims is the basis for her belief that all other products and companies are worse than hers shows very clearly that her claims are without basis.

Do yourself a favour. Put evako on your ignore list right next to carlaa. Your life will improve. There are many worthwhile posters on this forum and others without these two marketers.

If you think they are worth your time, then I would like to offer you some of the grass from my front yard. It is the only grass from a real yard, the others are all yahoo fakes and grow in china. I tested them and they all have inferior dirt to mine in them. I have test results that prove this, but I won't share them with you because you don't vasting time emailing.

Sfem, you're funny! Why would she/he tell an obvious lie? Anybody can go check and see for themselves any time that the cream is 100g and it costs as I said 45USD. http://shopping.stherb.com/pueraria-miri...cream.html

But you're right, will put her/him on ignore list. My objective is to grow breasts and her/his objective is to sell, no point to argue!