[GorgeousBlonde]

I would like to post this VERY INSPIRING experience from one Japanese woman, for all the women who are losing faith in the power of NBE.

My advice is: Try Natural Breast Enlargement for ATLEAST 1 full year before trashing it.

Here is the women's blog with her success story (needs to be translated):
http://translate.google.com/translate?js...ugem.jp%2F

Started at age 24 still maintained at age 30. Started as a 34B. One year later, looks like 34D. Two years after she is a F Cup.

She used the following:
1. High-Quality Japanese PM:
http://en.item.rakuten.com/puerariaplaza/316578/

2. Whitex (pig placenta with hylauronic acid)
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.store-mix.com/ko-bai/product.php%3Fafid%3D7817377%26pid%3D347367%26hid%3D106490%26oid%3D8403%26aftype%3Dpct01&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhh04F6Rvi9JZStW6RAPleIaArXOfg

3. Super B-Up
http://www.richworld.jp/exp/superbup/index.html

4. Nano Collagen
http://nanocollagen.com/about.php?aID=3

5. HGH (not listed on her blog)
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.store-mix.com%2Fko-bai%2Fp_list.php%3Foid%3D11747

[soonenough]

I wonder how many PB tablet/s she takes daily. If it's 330 mg, then, she must take 1 tablet everyday? It does not say in her blog, but on the supplier's website, it said to take 2 tablets (2 grains with lukewarm water, did I get that translation right??) daily. That would be 660 mg a day only in the follicular stage. i remember one of Ginnie's post saying to take PM tablets from day 5 of cycle to right before ovulation??

[GorgeousBlonde]

PM should only be taken 14-15 days per month, starting from the first day of the menstrual cycle.

[EvaKo87]

PM should only be taken 14-15 days per month, starting from the first day of the menstrual cycle.

I take mine for 20 days though.

[Ginie]

This is the program I'm following!! I had to buy so many supplements, I even ordered pig placenta from Japan! I know, it sounds crazy :-) but I really really wanted to make it as close to her program as possible because her results are.. well, you know I couldn't find Whitex so instead I take hyaluronic acid and placenta seperately. As for the supplements in luteal phase: the Japanese girl was thinking she was taking it to increase progesterone. But if you look closer at the ingredient list you will find that the herbs are mostly just weak phytoestrogens. The "yairuduyamu" is wild yam I think taking weak phytoestrogens in luteal phase is OK but I don't do it, I use PC instead.

I take PM from day 1 till 1-2 days before ovulation because 1 day before ovulation there should be a drop in estrogen, that's what causes ovulation to occur. If estrogen is still high then the ovulation will be postponed. Luteal phase takes 14 days, so, if you postpone O then your cycle will be prolonged. We all are different though, a friend of mine started taking PM just like me, but the second month she continued for the whole month but reduced the dose in luteal phase to 100mg.

The Japanese girl takes 150mg (if I remember correctly) for maintenance, it is the same brand but lower dosage, it is called "Sister Ladies' Pueraria 100%".

So far I've only done 2 months but I'm happy with results.

[cupcakes]

This is the program I'm following!! I had to buy so many supplements, I even ordered pig placenta from Japan! I know, it sounds crazy :-) but I really really wanted to make it as close to her program as possible because her results are.. well, you know I couldn't find Whitex so instead I take hyaluronic acid and placenta seperately. As for the supplements in luteal phase: the Japanese girl was thinking she was taking it to increase progesterone. But if you look closer at the ingredient list you will find that the herbs are mostly just weak phytoestrogens. The "yairuduyamu" is wild yam I think taking weak phytoestrogens in luteal phase is OK but I don't do it, I use PC instead.

I take PM from day 1 till 1-2 days before ovulation because 1 day before ovulation there should be a drop in estrogen, that's what causes ovulation to occur. If estrogen is still high then the ovulation will be postponed. Luteal phase takes 14 days, so, if you postpone O then your cycle will be prolonged. We all are different though, a friend of mine started taking PM just like me, but the second month she continued for the whole month but reduced the dose in luteal phase to 100mg.

The Japanese girl takes 150mg (if I remember correctly) for maintenance, it is the same brand but lower dosage, it is called "Sister Ladies' Pueraria 100%".

So far I've only done 2 months but I'm happy with results.

I reaslly wanted to base my program on hers too

Ginnie what reaults have ypu had so far i dont know weather to not take pm during the second half or reduce it either
Because i saw mydreamisgcup had really good results taking pm all month and she uses the depo provera contraceptive injection that im on too.

[Ginie]

I have 1 cup increase during 2,5 months. If this is not just a swelling, if it is a real growth then it is the fastest I've ever had (I was on herbs, on Fengshui's program, on BO before).

I think you can try taking it throughout the cycle because you're not having periods, correct? If a girl is having periods than taking PM throughout the cycle can be dangerous because it will delay her period really bad or she can even skip her period.

I'm not an expert on PM though Some people here say taking PM while on birth control can compromise the effect of birth control.

[aimingford]

Hello

I'm pretty new.

I want to start the same routine as the japanese lady

Could someone please tell me the exact brand of PM she was taking?

Also, I cant take gelatin cuz I dont eat anything pig related- is there any way to substitue for that?

also, theres alot of talk about the timing people take PM and b-up etc.

from what ive grasped, pm should be taken from the first day of your period up to the next 15-20 days, correct? and when you stop doing that, youre supposed to start drinking the b-up?

Also, the PM mentioned above is $256...is there a cheaper version that also works? I'm sorry for sounding so stupid- i took PM once before and i stopped cuz it made my period really late and stuff..i now use noogleberry which has had results but i want somethnig herbal.

also, what is HGH?

[Ginie]

Yeah, it is very expensive, Ladies' Pueraria 99% (Redizupueraria in Chiyumilk's program). Besides, there's no way to actually buy it anywhere except in Japan. There's plenty of PM - St.Herb, Siriporn, Ainterol, UK PM, all of them work, I advise you to read the archived forum and make your own conclusions about what worked for most people.

PM gave you delays probably because you were taking it throughout the cycle. If you continue taking it without breaks then you don't allow natural change in hormones, for example, there should be a significant drop in estrogen just before ovulation, also after ovulation estrogen should be low and progesterone should be high. Progesterone is equally imprtant for developing breasts. If you take PM all the time then your estrogen is high all the time and basically your body doesn't understand what's going on. Taking it this way (throughout the cycle) gives better and faster results in terms of growing boobs. But I chose to take PM until ovulation like Chiyumilk. If you choose to do it this way but you still want faster results without delaying your period then maybe you can add other herbs in luteal phase. Depending on your hormonal status it could be either weaker phytoestrogens (like in B-Up Drop) or herbs with progestogenic effect.

Chiyumilk was measuring her temperature and when she saw a drop before ovulation (one or two days before ovulation) then she stopped taking PM. So, there's no exact number of days.

There're many collagen brands which use marine source, not pig.

HGH is human growth hormone. There're natural ways to stimulate your body produce more GH (sleep, exercise, protein intake , so on).

Congratulations on starting NB! You will love it! It is something you can rely on even if you can't or don't want to take any pills.

[aimingford]

Thank you so much!

so far, this is what i'm looking at:

Do an hour of noogling every morning
-start zoft gum-2 a day

take nano collagen
vitamins-skin hair and nails + vitamin c
-fish oil pills
-fenugreek
- fennel seed pills
- borage oil pills
-B-up Drop

now the main thing is- i'm unsure of whether to start on PM or GirlsLoveCurves- from what ive seen on that forum, many have had amazing butt growth, which is something i wouldnt mind at all but i want to focus on boobs right now..

as for PM- it just is complicated cuz i dont get it. The whole ovulation and progesterone etc etc are all foreign terms. I wonder if i could just start taking PM from the 1st day of my period till the next 20 days, would that be alright?

Also- is my combination of herbs alright? or is alot of stuff overlapping?

I'm 5'4-pear shaped-no babies-34 b- weighing 100 lbs and aged 21.