[mochaccino]

To make things easier, here are my stats:
26 yo
29" underbust
31" bust
31.5" overbust
34 AAA
5'2"
118 lb
I've never had kids, and I'm not on any medications.

I remember hearing that the typical recommended starting dose of 1 gram
is far too high for many women, especially the AA's and AAA's, like me. I plan to use the bulk powder, so it will be possible for me to use less then 500 mg a day, if necessary, assuming I can figure out a way to accurately measure such a small amount [/align]

[beachbumbythesea]

Hi Mochaccino,

I thought it went by size of person but dont quote me on this I think it is more on how your hormones are.. I am sure Isabelle or someone experienced would know for sure..but I believe it is how much your hormones are out of balance or not..I think

[Isabelle]

Wahaika posted how to start a WY program here:
http://beboard.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Routines&action=display&thread=3029

But I agree with Susan: it's all about what your hormone system can handle. We developed this approach:
poke
check symtoms
adjust

Start with an herb that gives an immediate result:
FG batter causes swelling in an hour
PM improves mood within a day, maca within an hour
Hops makes you sleepy within an hour
SP makes you feel weird after about 6 hours

With those herbs, start really low, the dose that would normally be in one capsule, and check symptoms. Effective doses are 2-5 capsules usually. If one capsule already has an effect for the first herb, chances are that the next herbs will start working at that dose too. The above herbs come in 500-600 mg capsules, including Ainterol PM. Siriporn and St. Herb come in smaller capsules: they are stronger.

[Run.Rabbit]

Isabelle,

I was actually curious about this myself. I just started PM a couple days ago. The pills come in 500mg capsules and I wanted to start at 250mg twice a day. However, after completing one day of emptying half a capsule on my tongue, I've realized that I just can't stomach that. So for the last two days I've just been taking 1 500mg capsule twice a day so I'm already at 1 gram...

I've definitely noticed differences already (not in my breasts, but other places), and I've got a couple aches in my breasts already. (Maybe once or twice a day, very rare so far.) So far no negative side effects... Do you think that I'm pushing it too high, too fast? I don't want to stall myself out, and I figured that since I'm on BC, I might take PM for the whole month and then stop during my inactive pills. Then resume, repeat, instead of cycling.
I'd like to start my first month at 500mg, but I dunno how I can split the capsule up without vomiting!

Thanks.

[Isabelle]

Hi Run.Rabbit,

Just take one a day. The logic for spreading evenly over a day is just you can ramp faster, in theory. Because the first half capsule will be less likely to upset your stomach or cause an allergy.

On a steady dose, taking all at once does not make a difference. You have some added flexibility to manage your life with the immediate effects. Take maca in the morning for energy, PM for mood, hops in the evening for sleep, etc.

When I did the PM supplier cost comparison, I found that suppliers really thought about capsule size.
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=9541&pid=34145#pid34145
Capsules of 500-600 mg are whole herbs. The 100 mg are extracts. The medium sizes are farmed, all claiming they developed some cultivar for higher miroestrol.

As a rule, 1 capsule is for the ramp up or for maintenance. Two are effective. Three are enough for women. Five for males. Six gave Pansy Mae headaches. More are for boys who have to start liking what they see before they know what's happening to them.

[luisa]

To make things easier, here are my stats:
26 yo
29" underbust
31" bust
31.5" overbust
34 AAA
5'2"
118 lb
I've never had kids, and I'm not on any medications.

I remember hearing that the typical recommended starting dose of 1 gram
is far too high for many women, especially the AA's and AAA's, like me. I plan to use the bulk powder, so it will be possible for me to use less then 500 mg a day, if necessary, assuming I can figure out a way to accurately measure such a small amount [/align]

Hi mochaccino,
Ideally you should start with a smaller dose, for example 500 mg per day, and then increase to 1,000 mg per day once your body gets used to PM. I have very similar stats as you (I am also an AAA cup) and I am taking 1,000 per day without problems and even thinking to increase to 1,500 mg per day for a few days.
I have seen posts from girls with similar stats as ours taking 1,500 per day (of Ainterol PM) and getting great results so depending on how your body responds to PM I believe 1g should be OK for you.
Good luck!

[beachbumbythesea]

To make things easier, here are my stats:
26 yo
29" underbust
31" bust
31.5" overbust
34 AAA
5'2"
118 lb
I've never had kids, and I'm not on any medications.

I remember hearing that the typical recommended starting dose of 1 gram
is far too high for many women, especially the AA's and AAA's, like me. I plan to use the bulk powder, so it will be possible for me to use less then 500 mg a day, if necessary, assuming I can figure out a way to accurately measure such a small amount [/align]

Hi mochaccino,
Ideally you should start with a smaller dose, for example 500 mg per day, and then increase to 1,000 mg per day once your body gets used to PM. I have very similar stats as you (I am also an AAA cup) and I am taking 1,000 per day without problems and even thinking to increase to 1,500 mg per day for a few days.
I have seen posts from girls with similar stats as ours taking 1,500 per day (of Ainterol PM) and getting great results so depending on how your body responds to PM I believe 1g should be OK for you.
Good luck!

Hi Luisa,

Do you cycle your PM or do you take 1000 mgs everyday..do you take other herbs..

[luisa]

To make things easier, here are my stats:
26 yo
29" underbust
31" bust
31.5" overbust
34 AAA
5'2"
118 lb
I've never had kids, and I'm not on any medications.

I remember hearing that the typical recommended starting dose of 1 gram
is far too high for many women, especially the AA's and AAA's, like me. I plan to use the bulk powder, so it will be possible for me to use less then 500 mg a day, if necessary, assuming I can figure out a way to accurately measure such a small amount [/align]

Hi mochaccino,
Ideally you should start with a smaller dose, for example 500 mg per day, and then increase to 1,000 mg per day once your body gets used to PM. I have very similar stats as you (I am also an AAA cup) and I am taking 1,000 per day without problems and even thinking to increase to 1,500 mg per day for a few days.
I have seen posts from girls with similar stats as ours taking 1,500 per day (of Ainterol PM) and getting great results so depending on how your body responds to PM I believe 1g should be OK for you.
Good luck!

Hi Luisa,

Do you cycle your PM or do you take 1000 mgs everyday..do you take other herbs..

Hi beachbumbythesea,
I was taking PM daily for two and a half cycles (I am on a bcp) but I started getting headaches last week (which I believe is due to excess estrogen) so I am cycling this cycle. I am taking herbs until the end of this cycle. I also take SP daily even when I take PM. My skin seems to be clear only when I am on SP. Do you cycle as well?

[beachbumbythesea]

Hi Luisa,

I just started cycling, this is my second month still trying to tweek what works, I am at my cycle where my estrogen is at its highest and I have been taking 3 PM, I was taking maca but stopped for now.. I will be taking 3 PM for today (I on day 11) and then I start reducing to 2 then I will at some point be adding FG and maca..not sure with the maca though it seems like it was making me break out more and give me more chin hairs..since I stopped it the PM alone is doing better with that..I believe my hormones are still adjusting..it takes time for the body to adjust that is why I believe some see results sooner then others..

Isabelle made this chart for me..now the BS in the chart stands for Breast Sucess which I dont take anymore so instead of the BS I will be taking FG..the maca isnt on the chart but I may just keep maca a 1 pill while taking FG...experimenting with the maca..

Caps PM BS
day 26 1 1
day 27 1 0
day 28 1 0
...
day 01 1 0 period starts
day 02 1 0
day 03 1 0
day 04 1 0
day 05 1 0
day 06 2 0
day 07 2 0
day 08 2 0
day 09 3 0
day 10 3 0
day 11 3 0
day 12 2 1
day 13 2 1
day 14 2 1
day 15 2 1
day 16 2 2
day 17 2 2
day 18 2 2
day 19 2 2
day 20 2 3
day 21 2 3
day 22 2 3
day 23 2 3
day 24 1 2
day 25 1 1
day 26 1 1
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.ph...rual+cycle

If you think 3 PM on days 9, 10, 11 is too much, take 2 on days 9 and 10.
If your next period is late, try 1 PM on day 12.