[Isabelle]

Thank you for chipping in here, Mel,

The big problem in the last week of the long cycles on PM is that women who experience it feel horrible. They need reassurance.

Hi Prettymama,

Even if you ovulated in September, you probably ovulated again around October 6th, because you stopped PM just before your due date (some women have just a little spotting at this point). So I still think you will get a period around the 20th. Unless you did anything wicked between October 4 and 6. PM suppresses ovulation, but I don't know if it's still reliable as bc if you stop.

Mel is digging out the literature to get to the bottom of this. We are expecting an update from Soonenough, who experienced something similar: she wrote about cycles between 17 and 42 days.

So you are right to take the tests. Ginie and GorgeousBlonde have also done a lot of work on PM cycles, but the truth is we don't really understand how it works yet. I hope it all works out for you now, and I trust we will find the right way to cycle PM.

Good luck with the tests.

[Prettymama]

I would be very surprised if you are pregnant. First making the cycles longer is the most common side effect of pm even when cycled I've found that most complain it gradually increases. I cycled this month and my period was still several days late. Second while researching pm I've found several articles about pm working fantastic as a birth control in animal studies. If you would like to read them they are all on my program page.

Mel

yeah thats what ive read thats why i thought it MUST be the pm!! I of course only missed my period when im pregnant but because i am on the pm i figured it must be that..its been 38 days since my last period so if i dont get it by this week i will schedule a doc appointment..

[Prettymama]

Thank you for chipping in here, Mel,

The big problem in the last week of the long cycles on PM is that women who experience it feel horrible. They need reassurance.

Hi Prettymama,

Even if you ovulated in September, you probably ovulated again around October 6th, because you stopped PM just before your due date (some women have just a little spotting at this point). So I still think you will get a period around the 20th. Unless you did anything wicked between October 4 and 6. PM suppresses ovulation, but I don't know if it's still reliable as bc if you stop.

Mel is digging out the literature to get to the bottom of this. We are expecting an update from Soonenough, who experienced something similar: she wrote about cycles between 17 and 42 days.

So you are right to take the tests. Ginie and GorgeousBlonde have also done a lot of work on PM cycles, but the truth is we don't really understand how it works yet. I hope it all works out for you now, and I trust we will find the right way to cycle PM.

Good luck with the tests.

well technically if i ovulated in september why have i not had my period yet? If a baby is not fetilized then the uterus sheds its lining and your period begins...but i have had NOTHING..so maybe i didnt ovulate then..although (sorry for tmi) i felt alot of discharge..clear..around the 17th and 20th of september so i assumed i ovulated..i dont like my cycle being messed up..i am so regular normally every 27 days..like clockwork..im always prepared and now im 11 days later then usual and not liking this a BIT!! im not even stressed i wish it would just come on and i can feel more relief..i dont know about pm anymore im not a fan of it messing up cycles and wish i would of payed more attention to all the cycling info..i was just so darn eager to start and get bigger boobs!!

[Isabelle]

Hi Prettymama,

I don't understand it completely either, but I read stories that made me think it's possible to have two ovulations in one cycle. I'm making an overview of experiences. Check posts by aimingford and sweetpea for experiences like yours.

PM cycling experience overview

# number of cycles on PM
P number of PM capsules during period
F number of PM capsules after period during follicular phase
O number of PM capsules during ovulation
L number of PM capsules during luteal phase
T number of PM capsules in the PMT days (day 25 to the end of the cycle)
B Light or Heavy Bleeding
C cramps, Yes or No
CL cycle length
S spotting,
BC birth control

# P F O L T B C CL S BC Forum Member (PM brand)
2 0 2 2 2 0 ? N 30 N ?? aimingford (Ainterol capsules and cream)
0 1 2 2 2 1 ? ? ?? ? BC Balletbaby (Ainterol capsules)
2 1 3 2 2 1 H Y 36 Y No Beachbumbythesea (Ainterol capsules and bestacked.com cream)
2 ? ? 0 0 0 ? ? 47 Y ?? Belabrasil (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Belindaasian (Ainterol pills and Biobust cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Bellalily (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Bigboobie007 (Ainterol cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Chiquitabella (Ainterol PM powder home mixed with cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Chiyomilk (Redizupueraria 99%)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Crystalelle (B2UP 377 mg capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? DropDeadDoll (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Eva_bs (14 days, then stopped)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Galatea (Triactol serum, Purafem cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Gasolinerainbow (Siriporn pills and Ainterol spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Ginie (St. Herb capsules, switched to Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Gogirlanime (Purafem, switched to Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? GorgeousBlonde (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Hopeful88 (St. Herb capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? IdreamofD (Ainterol capsules, Ainterol extreme spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Im-a-girl (Ainterol cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? ~Immasexy~ (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Itsjust4fun91 (Siriporn pills and robust cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Janie (Thanyaporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Jennys (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lela12 (St. Herb capsules, PM UK spray, Zoft gum)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lil_Lisa (Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lilmissprettytits (Ainterol capsules, cream, and extract)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Littlelady13 (Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lled34aa (St herb and Siriporn, capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lollana (Purafem)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Luisa (Biovea capsules, Purafem cream and serum)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Marytay (Ainterol lotion, spray, and liquid extract)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Megami (a pill that contains PM and aguaje)
5 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Mesusuana (Ainterol capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Miss Vanity (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Mochaccino (St. Herb or Ainterol?)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Mok217 (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? MultipleFaces (Siriporn or purafem?)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? MydreamisGcup (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Nila (Siriporn capsules and serum, Ainterol capsules and spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? NotSoBusty (Ainterol capsules and spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Nullmoon (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Pam (St. Herb capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? PandaBunny (Ainterol capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Pippymilly (Ainterol capsules, Puerariamirifica.co.uk cream)
? ? 2 ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Prettymama (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Raindrop (Thanyaporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Rayawantsboobs (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Run.rabbit (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Salome83 (Anne Selene capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Shyfly (Thanyaporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Soonenough (Thanyaporn capsules, Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Stellapan (Ainterol capsules, switched to powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Supergurlystar (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Sweetpea (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Valgal (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? WantMyBoobsBack (homemade cream from Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Whitevalkyrie (Ainterol cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Wishgranted (Ainterol spray)
4 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Wonderwoman (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Zetafoo (Ainterol capsules)

[Prettymama]

Hi Prettymama,

I don't understand it completely either, but I read stories that made me think it's possible to have two ovulations in one cycle. I'm making an overview of experiences. Check posts by aimingford and sweetpea for experiences like yours.

PM cycling experience overview

# number of cycles on PM
P number of PM capsules during period
F number of PM capsules after period during follicular phase
O number of PM capsules during ovulation
L number of PM capsules during luteal phase
T number of PM capsules in the PMT days (day 25 to the end of the cycle)
B Light or Heavy Bleeding
C cramps, Yes or No
CL cycle length
S spotting,
BC birth control

# P F O L T B C CL S BC Forum Member (PM brand)
2 0 2 2 2 0 ? N 30 N ?? aimingford (Ainterol capsules and cream)
0 1 2 2 2 1 ? ? ?? ? BC Balletbaby (Ainterol capsules)
2 1 3 2 2 1 H Y 36 Y No Beachbumbythesea (Ainterol capsules and bestacked.com cream)
2 ? ? 0 0 0 ? ? 47 Y ?? Belabrasil (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Belindaasian (Ainterol pills and Biobust cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Bellalily (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Bigboobie007 (Ainterol cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Chiquitabella (Ainterol PM powder home mixed with cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Chiyomilk (Redizupueraria 99%)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Crystalelle (B2UP 377 mg capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? DropDeadDoll (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Eva_bs (14 days, then stopped)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Galatea (Triactol serum, Purafem cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Gasolinerainbow (Siriporn pills and Ainterol spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Ginie (St. Herb capsules, switched to Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Gogirlanime (Purafem, switched to Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? GorgeousBlonde (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Hopeful88 (St. Herb capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? IdreamofD (Ainterol capsules, Ainterol extreme spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Im-a-girl (Ainterol cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? ~Immasexy~ (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Itsjust4fun91 (Siriporn pills and robust cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Janie (Thanyaporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Jennys (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lela12 (St. Herb capsules, PM UK spray, Zoft gum)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lil_Lisa (Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lilmissprettytits (Ainterol capsules, cream, and extract)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Littlelady13 (Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lled34aa (St herb and Siriporn, capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Lollana (Purafem)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Luisa (Biovea capsules, Purafem cream and serum)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Marytay (Ainterol lotion, spray, and liquid extract)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Megami (a pill that contains PM and aguaje)
5 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Mesusuana (Ainterol capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Miss Vanity (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Mochaccino (St. Herb or Ainterol?)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Mok217 (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? MultipleFaces (Siriporn or purafem?)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? MydreamisGcup (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Nila (Siriporn capsules and serum, Ainterol capsules and spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? NotSoBusty (Ainterol capsules and spray)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Nullmoon (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Pam (St. Herb capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? PandaBunny (Ainterol capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Pippymilly (Ainterol capsules, Puerariamirifica.co.uk cream)
? ? 2 ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Prettymama (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Raindrop (Thanyaporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Rayawantsboobs (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Run.rabbit (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Salome83 (Anne Selene capsules and cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Shyfly (Thanyaporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Soonenough (Thanyaporn capsules, Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Stellapan (Ainterol capsules, switched to powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Supergurlystar (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Sweetpea (Siriporn capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Valgal (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? WantMyBoobsBack (homemade cream from Ainterol powder)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Whitevalkyrie (Ainterol cream)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Wishgranted (Ainterol spray)
4 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Wonderwoman (Ainterol capsules)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?? Zetafoo (Ainterol capsules)

so what about using pm cream and breast massage? do u think it would be a better alternative and maybe keep my cycles normal..i just thought maybe since its topical it wouldnt affect like that

[Isabelle]

I don't know yet, just have to get that table filled out before I can see a pattern. I think you need to stop the cream too to get an ovulation.