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BO contain only progesterone or estrogen too?
December 20 2006 at 8:04 AM wonderbride (Login wonderbride)
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Hey my BO girl friends. Do any of you know if BO contain estrogen too besides progesterone? I'm trying to keep track of the changes to my body on a day to day basis with my hormone fluctuations so I can decide what to take when. This perimenopause is kind of tempermental. Like Orgaic Angel said, the hormones just come one day and gone the next. I guess that's why I'm perfectly fine one day and have a yeast infection the next. What a hum bug! This is really weird but has anyone done BO for half a month and herbs for half a month? Just wondering... Any help on this is truly appreciated.

Love ya girls. happy growing

"Adopt the pace of nature: Her secret is patience" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson


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michelle choi
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SENIOR MEMBER hey wonderbride December 20 2006, 7:21 PM


To my knowledge the bovine ovary doesn't contain estrogen, it just works on the pituitary gland to release estrogen along with other growth hormones. BB says their pills are progesterone based, but do you think that means that just generic bo also contains progesterone? or would it be different since bb contains other things besides bovine ovary? I'm not sure on that one, but I'm thinking just plain generic bo only contains bo..since there's no additions to it like with bb. Do you feel your hormones fluctuate more now being on generic bo as opposed to bb pills with progesterone? If so, then maybe the extra progesterone in bb's pills was helping you?

Sorry to hear about your fluctuations and yeast infections. I hope things start going better for you soon.

oh and about taking bo half a month and herbs the other half...that would be interesting to know if that makes a difference. But, at the same time it's been said that mixing the phytoestrogens with bo slows results down...so even if you just took herbs for half a month, they would still be in your system when you started back up on the bo and could slow results I would think. But, of course I'm no expert, just guessing here. I know someone told me that a woman (you know her..Protecting names used fenugreek in her routine with bo and it gave her a 'boost' with growth...but it sure didn't give me a boost it slowed my results down. So do you think maybe that woman was estrogen deficient and that's why the fenugreek would of helped her?

I have heard of some women taking the first week off every month from bo (first 7 days of cycle) and having results..so maybe you could try that?

Good luck to you and hope you feel better.






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organic angel
(Login organic_angel) Re: BO contain only progesterone or estrogen too? December 21 2006, 5:18 AM


Hi Wonderbride....here are my thoughts on how bo works. It stimulates the ovaries, which in turn produce ALL the hormones they normally should produce. (estrogen/progestin/testosterone). I believe it pretty much assists our ovaries into functioning normally and correcting imbalances.

That said, I also am taking Vitex, to balance hormones as well. Vitex and DIM work similiarly in balancing out hormones so that you don't have excess of one or the other. I don't know which is better. Michelle, I think you've used both in your routines, can you tell if one works better than the other?

As for taking BO half the month and herbs the other....mmmm....I don't know. It seems that they would contradict each other's efforts, but who knows, we're all at the "crap table in Vegas" trying to get that snake eye roll.

Boobie Love My Organic Beauties


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wonderbride
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SENIOR MEMBER Hi Michelle & Organic Angel! December 21 2006, 7:52 AM


Thank you for your reply! I think my hormones have been fluctuating for a while now and I don't think taking the generic BO made it fluctuate more. I've only been taking the generic BO for 9 days since I stopped taking it. I've been learning more about hormone balance lately and realized that my hormones have been fluctuating for months already. Not so much in mood swings, or pms becaus Vitex has taken care of that, but just some signs/signals that I'm noticing with my body. At least I'm more aware of what's happening with my body and know what it means now. I think my using the progesterone cream also on top of taking the
BO pills and vitex might have contributed to my progesterone overload right now. It should ease off after a break from the BO and progesterone cream. When I get back later I'll start by taking less pills. Maybe start with 2 a day for 1000mg then work up. I recently learned that kelp is estrogenic. I don't know why BB said it's okay to take SP, YM, kelp and not other herbs. From what I've read, SP & YM have estrogenic properties as well. As far as FG. I've taken those too but they tend to make me gain weight. I would feel more pains but I think it was due to water retention. Didn't notice any real growth from taking FG either. FG, I believe is one of the herbs highest in phytoestrogen.

Not taking BO the first 7 days of the cycle sounds kind of interesting, Michelle. This way it'll give my body a chance to ovulate first. I read that soreness in the front and the nipples can be a sign that the body didn't ovulate. I might just try that. : ) Thank you for your good wishes girls, I am starting to feel better and I'm doing a cleanse too while I take a break from BO(liver,kidney,colon). I should be good to go again in no time. ; ) How are you doing Michelle, have you made any progress again lately? How are things going for you Organic Angel? Talk to you soon.

Much aloha and fast boobie growing wishes!

"Adopt the pace of nature: Her secret is patience" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson


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michelle choi
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SENIOR MEMBER Hey BO Bosom Buddies!! December 21 2006, 5:26 PM


Organic Angel,

You know it's hard to say whether I feel Vitex or DIM is better just yet. I started using Vitex on Dec. 1...days 1-14 of my cycle, my pains were deeper then, but I also started taking my Saw palmetto at the same time as my BB pills and that could of made a difference also, since that was something new I was doing. I even tried a few days ago using the Vitex (100mg) at the end of my cycle and my pains were non-existent, then yesterday I didn't use the Vitex and I had massive pains off & on for almost 3 hours (2hrs after I took my bb pills and supplements)..I've never had pains for that amount of time before...it was more like 'burning' sensations. Now when I did use and start taking DIM months ago (March) I believe it did give my body a 'boost' initially cause I had the best growth that month (1 1/2 inches) after that it was an average of 1/2 inch month. But, after I took a break at the end of June until August 6th...even did a Milk thistle cleanse and used progesterone cream to clear receptors, my growth was slower after starting back with the DIM and everything else I was taking before. August I only grew 1/4 inch..september, nothing...October 1/2 inch...November, nothing, but i did lose some weight in November along with some boobage. So maybe every now and then our body needs a 'boost' with something different or changing the times around that we take our bo pills. Cause I'm having the most pains now than what I did when I started back a few months ago. I also added Maca a week ago, so that could be it also. If I don't see some promising results in the next month or two with Vitex and MAca, then I may go back to the DIM and add Wild Yam in my routine.

Thanks for the laugh about the 'crap table in vegas'...that's about where we're all at. How are doing on your routine? I hope you're seeing some progress so far.

Wonderbride,

Thanks for asking how I'm doing. I also wanted to congratulate you on growing another 1/4 inch..I just read it on your program page. So YAY!! I'm not getting my hopes up or anything since it is at the end of my cycle here and could be temp swelling...but I'm back up to where I was before I lost some weight...from 34.5 inches after the weight loss...to 35.25. So I'll measure on day5 coming up in about a week and see if it's mine to keep. That would be great, so then I can just move forward again. And that would mean since Nov. 20th after the weight loss, that I've gained 3/4 inch. I haven't had that kind of growth in a month's time in a LONG time.

Good luck BO bosom buddies and I hope you gals have a great X-mas with your families!!




wonderbride
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SENIOR MEMBER Hey Michelle! December 21 2006, 8:21 PM


That's great new about your gains last month! Looks like you're making progress again. Yay!!! Keep us posted!

You and your family have a Merry Christmas too!

much aloha

"Adopt the pace of nature: Her secret is patience" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson



organic angel
(Login organic_angel) Re: BO contain only progesterone or estrogen too? December 22 2006, 7:57 AM


Hello my BO organic beauties!

CHELLE: Girl, I've learned thru my yrs, that you gotta keep the humor. Super intriguing about your pains when you didn't take Vitex. I have it in my routine, but don't have a period, so I'm interested to see how you and I do on Vitex, since we both started taking it about the same time. I did (as always) research the time allowance to gauge if Vitex is working or not. It is on avrg recommended to take 2-3 months, as it is a cummulative affect. It is also said that it can be taken long term with no ill affects. DIM appears to balance the good estrogen from the bad estrogen, and Vitex seems to be balancing for both estrogen/progestin. Hhhmmm....another roll at the crap table.

I actually have retained that plumpness that I got from my cocoa butter/vit-E massage. I have tingles and wierd sensations here and there, which I've never had before in any routine, so that totally jazzes me. I think that once I get my estrogen dominance under control, I'll see some more results. I just added NOW foods whey protein shakes also. Protein builds, and I think this is going to be a real important component.

It's funny, because for as long as I was in emergency medicine, it's all about plugging bleeding holes and literally the focus is on keeping the patient alive. There are soooooo many venues of health care, and now I'm so into learning about holistic health, and whole body care. I'm so "Miss Balance Your Hormones" now. This is why specialists truly only know their specialty. Don't go to a dermatoligist if you have a heart condition.

To both Chelle and Wonderbride....YIPPEE! Congrats on your growth. That's a great stocking stuffer if you ask me....yes, pun intended

Boobie Love My Organic Beauties



wonderbride
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SENIOR MEMBER Hi Organic Angel! December 23 2006, 2:07 AM


So happy to hear that you've kept the plumpness from the Coco an vit E massages and you're feeling tingles already! You're right about keeping a sense of humor. Our breast size can seem to change on a daily basis. Some days they look fuller and then lose a pound or two and they look smaller again. Some days they seem to grow 1/4" just from morning to night and then it's gone the next day. Oh well, that's why it's a long term project and patience and a sense of humor is needed.

Here's to seeing more growth very soon! Have a wonderful Christmas and a sensational boobie growing new year!

much aloha to you



"Adopt the pace of nature: Her secret is patience" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson



Sally Anne
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: BO contain only progesterone or estrogen too? March 17 2007, 10:00 AM


There is no progesterone in bovine ovary, only estrogen. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but progesterone is never found in the ovaries, either in a human or a cow. The Organic Angel idea of bovine ovary somehow balancing the actions of the ovaries and making them produce progesterone is quite fantastic, as bovine ovary has no balancing action and the ovaries don't make progesterone either. I think we have to be careful of getting into fantasy here, of starting to theorise things that have no connection to reality.



cups2b
(no login) Re: BO contain only progesterone or estrogen too? March 18 2007, 10:30 PM


Thank you for the info Sally Anne.

Would it be a total waste of money to start Bovine Ovary when one is on the contraceptive pill? On the Bountiful Breast website, they say it doesn't matter if you are on the pill. Still, if the product's effect have anything to do with what our ovaries produce, how could it have any effect if we are full of synthetic hormones?

Have any of you who had success with BO been on the pill at the same time and still grown?



Sally Anne
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: BO contain only progesterone or estrogen too? March 19 2007, 8:49 AM


I can't see that bovine ovary has any effect on what the ovaries produce. Because it's an ovary from a cow it would give you the cow's extrogen, but I can't see how it would affect the functioning of your own ovaries. I'm uncertain what effect taking the contraceptive pill would have on this, it may have an adverse effect in some cases but make no difference in others. I'm not sure if anyone understands the interaction for certain.



Candy
(Login candy.barr) Re: BO contain only progesterone or estrogen too? April 1 2007, 3:44 PM


Bovine ovary is not progesterone based. Only Bountiful Breast could even try and make that claim and that's because they include pituitary extract in their product which is supposed to supply the progesterone. Bovine ovary is estrogenic.

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If...
June 30 2007 at 1:00 AM Valerie (no login)

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I am pregnant (actually due today) and not happy with my breast size. i mean they only grew a little bit throughout the pregnancy. Don't get me wrong i am not thinking of taking bovine ovary anytime soon, but when i am done breastfeeding (which wont be for that long anyhow) i wanted to try it.

so i read that prolactin is the hormone that increases during pregnancy to stimulate breast development and milk formation.

if that is what's found in the bovine ovary to make breasts grow, but mine didn't grow in the first place with the natural prolactin, do you think i would have a low level of success with the bovine ovary? thanks.




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jen
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yeah, probably


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Valerie
(no login) Re: If... June 30 2007, 7:46 AM


that totally sucks


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Fennel Fairy
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SENIOR MEMBER Hey Valerie... June 30 2007, 7:55 AM


It's not prolactine that's in Bovine Ovary, it's estrogen and progesterone. Prolactine doesn't give any permanent growth, it's only there to help expand milk glands and get them ready for breastfeeding, and not everyone get bigger breasts during pregnancy, for many women the enlargement comes when the milk comes in. The enlargement you get from breastfeeding is not permanent as most of it is due to prolactine and milk production. Estrogen is the only hormone that makes us store fat in our breasts and that is how Bovine Ovary works.




Valerie
(no login) Re: If... June 30 2007, 8:00 AM


Fennel fairy, thanks for clearing that up for me! that gives me a shred of hope......

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BO... estrogen or progesterone?
October 16 2007 at 1:38 AM Kitty (Login Kittyluv09)

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I know herbs can be either or.... is this the same for BO? And if so, is BO/BB more on the estrogen side or progesterone side?




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sandy
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? October 16 2007, 12:21 PM


BO is estrogen..BB says it is progesteron based since they add pituitary to their caps.But ovaries produces estrogengood luck




waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? October 17 2007, 6:55 PM


I don't think the question is that simple. Ovaries don't just produce estrogen. Depending on whether there has been ovulation they also produce progesterone from the corpus luteum that remains after the egg exits. In our bodies it is from where we get most of our progesterone.

Now of course we don't know what 'time of the month' it was for the cows (or the pigs) being slaughtered. Certainly some of them would have recently ovulated and therefore they would be producing progesterone from their ovaries as well as estrogen.

I think since we know so little about the age of the animals, the state of their bodies, we can only presume that there is both estrogen and progesterone from bovine/porcine ovary.

Who knows how much of either - who knows if each batch has the same amount of hormones at the same ratios. There is no standardization controls on these products. If you got a batch of ovary that was 'harvested' in the spring (or whenever cows/pigs go into season) then you have a batch that is more progesterone.

The bottom line is unless you are having each pill tested in the lab -you have no idea what amount of what hormone it contains.

I am not trying to put off anybody about the idea of bovine or porcine ovary - I just don't want anyone getting the wrong idea about it either.

This very topic could be the reason that some people respond better to BO than others -- They may actually be taking very different amounts of hormones even though they are taking the same product.

Just my .02 cents

waxingmoon


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sandy
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? October 17 2007, 7:52 PM


Excellent point Waxingmoon,

I never thought of that this way.Thanks for sharing


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Judith
(no login) Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? October 18 2007, 8:25 AM


Waxingmoon is right. What you get from consuming ovary would most likely vary enormously from one bottle to another. I'm sure there is a certain amount of 'pot luck' involved in what you get from any one bottle.


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waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? October 18 2007, 4:34 PM


Well because I was curious I did some research to see just how often cows and pigs ovulate (and therefore produce progesterone from the corpus luteum).

For pigs - they have a 21 day cycle. This would mean in the slaughtered pig it would be likely that there was progesterone in the ovarian tissue.

For cows - well they may also have a 3 week cycle, but I am not sure that they cycle all year long. One big difference is that the corpus luteum they produce is very large. This would mean there might be more progesterone in the cow ovary versus pig ovary - just due to the size difference. But if cows only cycle for part of the year then the chances of them being slaughtered after ovulation are lower... so maybe there is less progesterone on average in bovine ovary.

This is all very frustrating. How in the world can we evaluate something when so many of the variables are unknown.

The answer still has to be THERE IS NO EASY WAY TO KNOW - in regards to progesterone versus estrogen ratios in ovary supplements.

waxingmoon





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KittyC
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? October 18 2007, 11:38 PM


Thanks waxingmoon! Very good points. I just wish I had read that or thought about that back in Janurary when I started taking BO. I took it for 6 or 7 months I think and gained nothing but nasty side effects.

(.Y.)



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gokhil
(no login) Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? November 12 2007, 7:53 AM


yes it's true. eating one bottle of ovaries will give you quite different chemical composition to eating another bottle of ovaries. there is no standardisation or quality control, so it's going to vary a lot and you simply get what you get.


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Lost Sheep
(no login) Try using Standard Process November 17 2007, 1:17 AM


Try using a high quality tested supplement. Standard Process is a brand that measures the exact amounts of their product in every bottle they sell. They have been selling pig and cow glands for over 50 years. They routinely are tested by 3rd party companies and always pass. And no, I'm not a rep - I just happen to know some folks who swear by their vitamins and supplements.


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GoodGoodGoodluck
(Login GoodGoodGoodluck) Standard Process November 17 2007, 2:01 AM


That's great info - had no idea about Standard Process. Is there a particular supplement they have to specifically promote breast growth? What else have you heard about Standard Process?


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GoodGoodGoodluck
(Login GoodGoodGoodluck) KittyC - Side Effects? November 17 2007, 2:08 AM


Hi KittyC! May I ask you what side effects you had with BO (was it Bountiful Breast?) and when you started to notice the side effects? And if you are still experiencing the side effects now?

I have been contemplating whether to do the bovine ovary route or the phytoestrogen route for a while now. I was in a health store the other day and was introduced to Complete La Femme (by Baywood). Completely confused and not sure what to do...


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Lost Sheep
(no login) Standard Process November 18 2007, 5:32 AM


Standard Process used to only be sold to medical professionals (and likely they would like to keep it that way), mainly DO and DC because in the US most MDs don't believe in selling supplements, rather they prescribe Rx meds.

It's much easier to get SP now thanks to the Internet. Again, I don't seel them, haven't used them - but intend to thanks to the ladies here who have encouraged me to get started. They say all of their bovine comes from New Zealand. Ebay sellers even supply this brand now, for less than the prices I saw on the site I pulled the info from.

I noticed that there are 2 different kinds of chemicals extracted from the bovine ovary. Interesting, I wonder which one is the most effect for NBE. One friend who uses them for health reasons said not to use their products without seeing a doc. She didn't consider it safe to just randomly take glandulars made by SP. At any rate, here's some stuff copied from another site.

Standard Process - Ovex P 90 Tablets ~ $20.00
STP-6625
Ovex P is a Cytosol extract derived from porcine ovary, one of a pair of female reproductive glands. The ovaries produce reproductive cells and hormones. Ovex P contains many of the substances produced by the gland, such as hormone precursors, acids, and enzymes. Content Product No. 90 Tablets 6625 Suggested Use: One tablet per meal, or as directed. Proprietary Blend: 185 MG Porcine ovary Cytosol extract, magnesium citrate, and mixed tocopherols. Other Ingredients: Calcium lactate, cellulose, calcium stearate, and ascorbic acid. Supplement Facts: Serving size: 1 Tablet Servings per container: 90 Each serving contains: %DV Calories 1 Vitamin C 2 mg 2% Each tablet supplies 120 mg of porcine ovary Cytosol extract.

Standard Process - Ovex 90 Tablets ~ $28.00
STP-6600
Ovex is a Cytosol extract derived from bovine ovary, one of a pair of female reproductive glands. The ovaries produce reproductive cells and hormones. Ovex contains many of the substances produced by the gland, such as hormone precursors, acids, and enzymes. Content Product No. 90 Tablets 6600 Suggested Use: One tablet per meal, or as directed. Proprietary Blend: 185 MG Bovine ovary Cytosol extract, magnesium citrate, and mixed tocopherols. Other Ingredients: Calcium lactate, cellulose, calcium stearate, ascorbic acid, and gelatin. Supplement Facts: Serving size: 1 Tablet Servings per container: 90 Each serving contains: %DV Calories 1 Vitamin C 2 mg 2% Each tablet supplies 120 mg bovine ovary Cytosol extract.

Standard Process - Ovatrophin PMG 90 Tablets ~ $16.00
STP-6550
Ovatrophin PMG contains Protomorphogen extracts which are uniquely derived nucleoprotein-mineral extracts that support cellular health. Bovine ovary PMG extract helps maintain the ovary in a good state of repair to support healthy ovary function. � Content Product No. 90 Tablets 6550 Suggested Use: One tablet per meal, or as directed. Proprietary Blend: 190 MG Bovine ovary PMG extract and magnesium citrate. Other Ingredients: Calcium lactate, cellulose, and calcium stearate. Supplement Facts: Serving size: 1 Tablet Servings per container: 90 Each serving contains: %DV Calories 1 Calcium 20 mg 2% Sodium 20 mg <1% Each tablet supplies 125 mg bovine ovary PMG extract.


Standard Process - Pituitrophin PMG 90 Tablets ~ $28.00
STP-6850
The pituitary gland is often referred to as the �master gland of the body.� It is an endocrine gland that store and secretes a number of hormones to regulate and balance many metabolic activities and physiological functions. Pituitrophin PMG contains Protomorphogen extracts which are uniquely derived nucleoprotein-mineral extracts that support cellular health. Bovine pituitary PMG extract helps maintain the pituitary gland in a good state of repair to support healthy pituitary function. � Content Product No. 90 Tablets 6850 Suggested Use: One tablet per meal, or as directed. Proprietary Blend: 118 MG Magnesium citrate and bovine pituitary PMG extract. Other Ingredients: Calcium lactate, cellulose, and calcium stearate. Supplement Facts: Serving size: 1 Tablet Servings per container: 90 Each serving contains: %DV Calories 1 Calcium 30 mg 2% Each tablet supplies 45 mg bovine pituitary PMG extract.

Standard Process - Utrophin PMG 90 Tablets ~ $15.00
STP-8125
The uterus is a reproductive organ that contains and nourishes the embryo and fetus from the time the fertilized egg is implanted to the time the baby is born. Hormonal relationships between the uterus, placenta, ovaries, and hypothalamus are well documented. Utrophin PMG contains Protomorphogen extracts which are uniquely derived nucleoprotein-mineral extracts that support cellular health. Bovine uterus PMG extract helps maintain the uterus in a good state of repair to support healthy uterus function. � Content Product No. 90 Tablets 8125 Suggested Use: One tablet per meal, or as directed. Proprietary Blend: 192 MG Bovine uterus PMG extract and magnesium citrate. Other Ingredients: Calcium lactate, cellulose, and calcium stearate. Supplement Facts: Serving size: 1 Tablet Servings per container: 90 Each serving contains: %DV Calories 1 Calcium 20 mg 2% Sodium 5 mg <1% Each tablet supplies 125 mg bovine uterus PMG extract.

Standard Process - Mammary PMG 90 Tablets ~ $15.00
STP-5450
Theoretically, the mammary glands have a suppressing influence on some reproductive glands but a stimulating influence on the corpus luteum of the ovaries, the adrenal glands, and the hypothalamus. Mammary PMG contains Protomorphogen extracts which are uniquely derived nucleoprotein-mineral extracts that support cellular health. Bovine mammary PMG extract helps maintain the mammary glands in a good state of repair to support healthy mammary gland function. � Content Product No. 90 Tablets 5450 Suggested Use: One tablet per meal, or as directed. Proprietary Blend: 185 MG Bovine mammary PMG extract, and magnesium citrate. Other Ingredients: Calcium lactate, cellulose, and calcium stearate. Supplement Facts: Serving size: 1 Tablet Servings per container: 90 Each serving contains: %DV Calories 1 Cholesterol 5 mg 2% Calcium 20 mg 2% Sodium 10 mg <1% Each tablet supplies 120 mg bovine mammary PMG extract.

I noticed other products too, Gonado F by Progressive Labs (90 Capsules) Ovarian Substance - Raw 150 mg
Solaray Female Caps contains pituitary, mammary, ovary, etc

Seems there are some choices out there, but the only one I know of that is tested and passes each year is SP. I'm sure there are others, but I haven't spent enough time or asked any docs about it. The whole reason standardization and testing became an issue to me is that a pharmacist I know told me not to use VitaminShoppe brand anything since that company was selling vitamins under their brand name containing unacceptable levels of lead, which led me to research, find out that is true, saw some reports about vitamin testing and how SP along with a couple others test accurately.




Miss Jones
(Login miss.jones) Re: BO... estrogen or progesterone? November 21 2007, 8:50 AM


Your claims don't seem to make any sense. Surely all products have exact amounts of what they are selling? And what has been passed exactly? Some test or standard or what? It seems like meaningless claims.

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Hormones in BO/PO
March 31 2008 at 10:11 PM Zuri (no login)

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Hi guys!

you all seem to be very knowledgeable on the matter so can you please tell me what kinds of hormones do the BO/PO products include? Is it oestrogen progesterone or something else?

Thnx for the help!




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sandy
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Hormones in BO/PO April 1 2008, 8:49 PM


yes it is estrogen and progesteron.




Zuri
(no login) Re: Hormones in BO/PO April 2 2008, 9:18 AM


Thnx Sandy,

I was confused as I know herbal supplements also contain eostrogen but no progesterone apparently and I wanted to know if BO/PO products are the same




sandy
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SENIOR MEMBER Re: Hormones in BO/PO April 2 2008, 9:32 AM


Your welcome.It is just like the hormones our ovaries produce

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Response to BO estrogen/progesterone thread...
October 19 2007 at 1:32 AM Kitty (no login)

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Thank you waxingmoon!

I haven't had the internet for the past few days so i haven't been able to read the discussion board.

It seems the bottom line is that there's def estrogen in BO.

I remember I asked this question because someone on the main board had problems with excess estrogen and the response to her was to increase her progesterone, and that increasing her estrogen could be bad.

I think I may have excess estrogen, so I'm trying to decide whether or not I should give this 4.5 month supply of BB another try. Afterall I did spend $330 on it. The first time I tried I only made it 3 days and I noticed that I got acne all over my chin in the second day. A sign of excess estrogen?

If I start back up, should i only take one pill a day instead of two? (I stopped because BB gave my nausea and I didn't want it to ruin my vacation). Or should I just not take BB at all?

I would get a hormone test done by my ob/gyn but I don't know if my insurance would cover it.

Anyone's help would be appreciated. I want to grow bigger breasts, but I really don't want to hurt my body.