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#1

hello,

i start my NBE on nov 17 2011...

i took my mesure and it was:

DAY 2
below breast(ribcage): 27.5
bust:29
above : 29.5
waist:24
hips:30.5

Day 47
below breast(ribcage):27.5
bust:29.5
above:30
waist:25
hips:30


so i guess i see a little bit of change when i look at them
but my bra size was 32A
Now the 32 is to tight but the cup is still not fill up.... maybe i was a 32 AA

i try different mesuring guide and im still not sure what is my bra size.
Personaly i think i may be a 34 AA... i have to go shop to see what is the best fitting but 34AA is rare

Anyway, i will keep mesuring in awhile to see if i grew and i know it a bit soon to see a big difference, but they seem like that they grew a bit but not as much as i want....

Oh well, ill be patient and stick with my program
But i cannot wait to change my bra size Wink

im small girl with small frame so i dont expect a D cup but i do want to have more volume.

i guess theres hope Wink


i find this calculator and and it seem that im still 32AA ;(

http://www.85b.org/bra_calc.php

and this one said im 34B
http://www.calculator.net/bra-size-calculator.html
http://www.myfirstbra.us/bra_size.htm



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#2

Hey jul,
I was wondering: are you french or canadian ?

By the way, I think that the two last calculators are a bit twisted since they make me a GG or H cup which I'm certainly not ...
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#3

hello Onicemile

yes im french canadian.

i know that on one of the calculator i was a 34 H..... lol that im not either.

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#4

im on a new brand of PM since nov 17, 2011 that was my day one....

Day 1 to 15
Pm Siriporn 100 mg 3 times a day
Silicon gel (with vitamins C & D3) 1 table spoon 1x day
Omega 3 and Omega 6 (EPA & DHA):1400 mg: 1 x day
Vitamins complex B: 1 x day

Massage 2 time a day

Day 16 to 34

SW: 2 x day 450 mg
FG: 2 x day 610 mg
Maca:750mg 1 x a day
Silicon gel (with vitamins C & D3) 1 table spoon
Omega 3 and Omega 6 (EPA & DHA):1400 mg
Vitamins complex B
tea :fennel, cumin, anis,Verbena officinalis and Anethum graveolens ( find the recipe on the net only took 1 cup a day for 2 days
breast massage 2 x day


Because my ovulation was on day 26. I decide to take PM day 1 to 12

But im a bit confuse for the rest of my cycle...What to take form day 13 to ????
Should i take back PM in a another day of my cycle?

Do i have to take a break from PM?... Cos now im on my 50 day.
How long do i have to cleanse my body before taking PM again?
Do i have to take a break with the other herbs too?

I was woundering if i have to add Goat rue? motherlove brand... Liquid, pills or add it in my mixture with my tea recipe?
And also i wounder if i have to add l-arginine

its been few weeks now and i would like to speed it up a bit

Any advice?
thanks

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#5

ok i just bought l-arginine,
does anyone know when i should add it in my cycle?

the dosage say 4 pills 3 times a day but because im small frame i think i sould take 1 pills 2 time a day. Do i have to take it all the time or i have to take a break from it?

what do you think ? Have anyone take this in your program?

who took or take motherlove brand: goat rue? should i add it to my program and when?

thank for your advice

jul
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#6

ok im doing fine in my first cycle day 1 to 12....but now im confuse for the other days 13 to ??? i dont know what to take anyone.

this month: day 1 to 12:
Pm Siriporn 100 mg 2 times a day
Silicon gel (with vitamins C & D3) 1 table spoon 1x day
Omega 3 and Omega 6 (EPA & DHA):1400 mg: 1 x day
Vitamins complex B: 1 x day
maca:2x day(from day 1 to 18)
l-arginine:2 x day (from day 14to 18)

from day 18 to 23(today)

im taking FG 2x day
SW 1x day


im confuse in what to take after my day 12

Can anyone help me to figure it out?

it been 61 days that i start NBE and didnt see a change....when do i need to cleanse my body and for how long????

i must do something wrong
Should i take 3 PM instead of 2
when do i have to add L-arginine?

i eat well, exercice,do some hypnosis, massage, start taking protein shake.....but i smoke....i know that is not good and i will try to stop.

Please help me im a bit discouraged right now


thank for your tips

jul

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#7

Hi jul,

Read idreamofD's program thread: she takes 10 g of L-arginine. I'm not sure, but I think she uses motherlove too.

It's best to stop siriporn, maca, and FG till after ovulation. Can you feel when you ovulate? It happens on your cycle length minus 14 days.

After ovulation, the important one is fenugreek. You can take small doses of siriporn and maca, but the progesterone from the fenugreek must stay in control. So if you have estrogen dominance symptoms (water retention, foggy thinking, headaches, low libido) decrease maca and siriporn, or increase fenugreek.

On day 25, go to the lowest doses of maca and siriporn. Try zero fenugreek, unless you have estrogen dominance symptoms, then take a low dose.

These are just general guidelines. So far, no one on the forum kept her cycles running well on PM for longer than two months. So it will take a lot of experimenting to get it right.
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#8

Hello Isabelle,

For my ovulation, i dont have regular cycle so the first month i took PM i took it like it said on the bottle from day 1 to 15 ..... but i ovulated on day 26...and got my period on day 39.....So i decided to try PM from day 1 to 12 to see when i will be ovulating and it was sooner.

Usually i take PM,Maca, and all the vitamins until i ovulated....Then i replace PM buy FG,SW....I just bought L-Arginine recently so i took it for a few days but after i ovulated and i think you have to take it with PM.

I will stop Maca for a few times coz i think i gain a bit a weight on my bum( im small woman and already have a nice bum) dont need to be bigger...just more firmer lol

So for PM i should took it from day 1 to 12(ich) and after i ovulat to?


Thank for your help

Jul


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#9

Hi jul,

You can take PM after you ovulate, but you take less than on days 9-11, and always together with herbs that increase progesterone, like FG and WY, or phyto-progestins, like FN or turmeric.
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#10

What are the benefits of taking Maca along with PM?
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