[lola_m]

So, finally going to get this written down so I can gauge what works/doesnt work for me...
Am 39, two children (both breastfed)
Currently measure 32b BUT look more like a 32a (more about that below)
Was a 32a pre breastfeeding, then went to flat as a pancake with droopy nipples. Started a fenugreek program from Sept to early January, where i 'blossomed' to a 32a from 32aaa. I really liked the fenugreek, and it made me feel really good (really works for the libido) BUT I was aware that my lady bits were smelling a little bit of, um, curry
I was also doing the chi massage for 15 minutes twice a day

I am slightly pigeon chested, the sternum is curved and my ribs are a bit deformed (sounds lovely)..not too noticeable, unless from the profile. But part of this condition means very little boobage, and what tissue there is is pushed out to the side. Ah, the booby fairy loves me
So, I do have breast tissue, mostly under boob..which gives me a 32b/30c bra measurement BUT i look more like a small 32a

Anyhoo, decided to take the plunge with PM as read that it compliments the noogleberry so well. Started noogling on 1st December (so its been 2 and a half months) and LOVE it. I dont know why I was so sceptical of it...it has improved my boobies already...no actual inch tape growth but definitely given my boobs a more rounded shape, and a bit more at the sides. I also think its moving them to the front more, as they were facing away from each other quite noticeably before
I noogle half hour each boob in the morning (ideally 45 mins for better swelling) and one hour each side in the evenings. Its hard to noogle with the kids about, as dont want my daughter telling anyone and everyone at nursery that mummy pumps her boobies
I have been taking the PM for a week now, and started the PM spray today, doing the massages that came with the pamhlet thingy. They do feel a bit sore an tingly already
I (whispers..) dont cycle the PM and didnt wait until a specific day of my cycle to start...controversial?!
My cycles are a bit all over the place anyway, am not taking bc, not planning pregnancy etc so Im not too bothered about ovulating etc.
I have had a dodgy tummy on the PM so cut down to half a capsule twice a day which seems to have settled it a bit (still a little windy though?)

I also take a skin/hair/nails vit and arginine every day, drink lots of water and try and drink soy milk, but keep forgetting and have to throw it away regularly

I have taken photos and will pop them on the thread if I see any growth on this program later on.

[lola_m]

ok, giving up with the evening PM tablet..just having terrible insomnia problems with it. Also still have the windy tummy, which is bearable but the sleep thing (or lack of) is making me very grumpy. Will keep up with the spray twice a day. I do have the odd heavy boob tingle feeling every few days, which i hope means this is all working..could be psychosomatic though, wishful thinking and all of that

I meant to say in last post that i am fairly thin with a high metabolism, just cant keep weight on..which will probably make this journey even more arduous. I did get up to a 32c with breastfeeding so i know bigger boobies are possible..i just wish i hadnt been too tired and depressed to appreciate them at the time!

Now using the CL domes to noogle with, blooming uncomfortable. I filled the mediums after almost three months of noogling and just started with the bigger ones (after trial and error discovered the pump and release makes you fill the domes quicker)Crumbs, have to literally stay in a stooped position grasping on to dome from all angles to keep it from farting very loudly off. Challenging. Does give good swelling though. Have cut down to one half hour each boob every evening, too tired to get up early to noogle..maybe with the pm decrease i will be able to do a bit of morning noogling again

So, its almost three months of noogling and a week and a half of PM. I do really love the noogleberry and really think it works. Boobs feel bigger, not sure if they look it though. Bra feels tighter but no difference to inch tape.Really want to be a nice 32b by Summer pretty please

[Strumpet]

Sorry to hear the PM didn't work out for you. It sounds like you're having progress with noogling though! I find it's hard to keep a consistent measure with the tape, one month I'm up some, the next I'm down some, so don't sweat what the tape says too much, if your bras feel tighter you probably have some progress.

[lola_m]

thanks strumpet, am still forging ahead with the PM but not sure if much is happening after the initial tingles etc. It must be a little over a month and I think i just ovulated..but is this possible as im not cycling? I dont understand? I started PM mid cycle and had a period bang on time..which goes against what others say, maybe this stuff just doesnt work for me? I take one tablet in the morning now and half a tablet a night, with food (seems to prevent the painful gas) and use the spray twice.
Tbh I think the noogleberry is the thing thats working for me. When i look in the mirror i see my pre-breast feeding boobs..after three and a half months of noogling. Maybe now I can start growing over and above what i had before
I find I can retain a bit of swelling by the evening if can squeeze a 45 min noogle in the morning. I get up to 35 inches swelling when I noogle for an hour and a half with the CL domes in the evening...which is amazing. Sigh, why wont it stay.
So, will keep up with the noogling and PM for the time being, will report back if get more growth and tingles. My skin is looking ace, not sure if its the PM or massive amounts of water am drinking since boobie growth program began. Measure a solid 34 inch on the bust now, not just the baggy tape measure 34 i sometimes pretended to have

[sunnydayz]

Hi lola_m. Congrats on your growth! I'm 44 and in my 3rd month of pm. Prior to that I did 6 mos of fenugreek and a lot of other various herbs, along with breast actives cream. I haven't changed bra size yet but my boobs are definately fuller. Although I've always been small and perky, they were starting to feel like deflated sacs.

I'm not cylcing, either, since my periods were becoming irregular the last 2 years and since taking pm I've been on time the last two months.

I'm like you, I am fairly thin, this is the most I've weighed ever, besides being pregnant and I'm 5'7" and 120lbs. I have a speedy metabolism too. I tell people that if I skip a meal I lose 5 lbs.

I'm scared to try nb. I'm worried they're going to make what I have saggy at my age, nor do I really have the time to do it.

Good luck and there is a lot of info here!

[lola_m]

Hi Sunnydayz, can I ask if you had any issues with PM (tummy problems?)..i was wondering if it was because I am so slight, and have a fast metabolism too? When did you notice more fullness? Did you ramp it up slowly?
I can really really recommend the noogle for perking up deflated boobies...if you ever go on to the noogleberry forum there are lots of women who have breastfed and nobody has encountered any droopiness with it. I LOVE it, and remember when I first lurked this forum was thinking Hmmm, NO WAY will I pump the boobsters..but here I am, and its been the best thing so far. Oops, will stop trying to sell it
Do you think you ovulated on the pm? Is it possible do you think?
X

[sunnydayz]

Hi lola_m. No, I don't think I have had any tummy problems. I say think because I just had a three day bout with a stomach bug and at first I was kind of wondering if that was it since I upped the dosage a week ago, but I am ok now.

I had been on other herbs for 6 months before starting pm and I had already noticed the fullness from that.

I wouldn't say I ramped up slowly. I did two full months on siriporn of their recommended 2 pills a day, without cycling, and at the start of this cycle I decided to try 3 a day and at the 14 day mark (this weekend) I am going to lower to 2 a day for the luteal phase. When I was regular, I always had a 28 day cycle, thus why I am going to do 14 days.

I have ordered a progesterone cream and I am going to substitute the pm cream for the progesterone cream during the luteal phase. I'm hoping it gets here for this cycle but I don't think it will.

I've never even looked at the noogleberry website. Sometime I will have to check it out. I don't know when I would have time to do I regularly, though. I can't possibly get up any earlier in the morning and my boyfriend doesn't even know about the herb thing. haha He would tell me that it's a waste of money and all snake oil. Although, I'm sure he has noticed the fullness lately and just hasn't said anything.


I would have to assume that I ovulated on pm since I got my period both times.

Hopefully I answered your questions. I'm just running out the door and going to be late for a spin class!

[lola_m]

Today I measured over 34.5 inches...a loose 35 if get a little creative with the inch tape yay
I am due my period within the next few days but am elated nonetheless. They feel bigger but I took a photo and compared it to an earlier photo and they dont LOOK different
I think this is just the way my chest wall is etc, the boobs kind of sit to the side looking in different directions

So, its almost 4 months of noogling and a month and a half of PM. My tummy has settled down now, and I dont have any negative side effects. Im wondering if the PM has boosted growth, I suspect that maybe it has. No horrendous PMT so far, skin is clear, feel good.
Im mixing it up with the noogling, a bit of medium cup, bit of CL cups. I try and manage 30-45 mins in the morning each boob, and an hour each boob in the evening..am trying to build cleavage and teach my boobs to look forward. I am getting the odd heavy feeling in the boobs, especially using the PM spray. I think I will have to be a 32c to look like a 32b...so need another inch x

[lola_m]

I think I am having a growth spurt..this must be the PM kicking in. For the first time ever I can look in the mirror and see..proper breasts! I did half hour with the CL each side last night and they were enormous!! (enormous by my paltry standards anyway) I keep wanting to cup them!! A couple of nights ago I couldnt be bothered halving my PM tablet and had horrible palpitations in the night..so obviously i need to take a loser dose then recommended. The PM is from pueraria-mirifica.com, which i think is the same as pueraria.co.uk (same leaflet)..just checked and its 500mg per tablet, so quite high. I take about 750mg a day..could i/should i lower that? Bit reluctant now as definitely had a growth spurt in the last day

[Run.Rabbit]

I had GI issues when I first started PM as well, I had to lower my dose for a while until my body got used to it. My body did adjust though, it took me about two and a half months to be able to take 1,000mg of PM a day comfortably. I would ramp up and down slowly each month and now I can handle lots of PM. Congrats on your current growth though, its a good sign!