[verycurious]

i began my program back in march but i was hoping to have results before i posted but here goes:

I am 5'6
123 pounds
36A
2 kids

I was on the enhancement blended kit from greenbush for about 2 months with no results and then i started on kit #2 march 21st. My program is as follows

fenugreek 2875 mg per day, equals to 5 capsules per day
saw palmetto 2875
wild yam 2875

flaxseed oil 3000mg per day
EPO 1500 mg per day

Fennel liquid extract 1000 mg per day

msm 3000 mg per day
multi vitamin
b complex
5HTP
Spirulina

I do not massage as often as i should, i would say on average 3 times per week. I massage with fennel liquid extract and olive oil. I have also massaged with a liquid extract containing fenugreek, wild yam, and saw palmetto.

I have felt tingles and itching on certain days but so far no growth. I have to admit after being on the enhancement blend for 2 months and this program now for a month with out any growth i am getting frustrated. I get outside everyday, i exercise, i eat healthy....i really felt as if i have a great program. But I still have high hopes..so I will keep everyone posted.

Does anyone have any thoughts on massaging with the liquid extracts? Also I drink the fennel liquid extract rather than makng a tea from powdered fennel? Is this is effective?


Well good luck to everyone!

[verycurious]

Well I have not updated as there was nothing to update. Unfortunately, after being on herbs for almost 5 months I had experienced no results I have to admit it was a little depressing.

So on to the next, in the meantime i continued my research and I have started a new program. I continued on the herbs until i got my period on wednesday May 23rd. I began PM (siriporn) on friday MAy 25. I began with one capsule for 3 days and on monday began with 2. I will continue with 2 until day 12 and cycle. So my program is now as follows:

Follicular phase
Morning: before i eat
SPirulina 1500 mg
5 HTP with vit B6
PM capsule

Morning after I eat:
Multivitamin
vitamin B12
EPO 1300 mg
MSM 1000 mg


Afternoon
MSM
EPO
CAyenne capsule

Evening
PM capsule
MSM
EPO

Luteal Phase- im unsure of my dosages or how much i will take
FG
WY
Fennel
i will also continue my vitamins, MSM, and EPO

I will see how this cycle finishes out and report my results. I will say after being on PM for about a week they do seem to feel fuller. I am also using their robust lotion and massaging 2 x a day with it morning and evening.

For the next cycle these are my thoughts:
I would like to add 1000 mg of maca along with SP for my follicular phase?

Does anyone have any thoughts of this? I figured maca will speed my results and SP will serve as an anti androgen? I am worried about being on maca and SP at the same time because of the weight gain so i also considered peppermint tea. But peppermint tea is also estrogenic will this compete with the PM for receptor sites?

I will post pics after my luteal phase....thanks and good luck to all

[Isabelle]

Hi verycurious,

1,000 mg maca is a very sensible dose. Even in combination with an equally sensible SP dose, I don't expect massive weight gain.

You can try spearmint: that's not estrogenic.

[verycurious]

Thank you as always Isabelle!!!! so sweet!

my mind is always wondering now towards different thoughts or different ways i need to make up my mind and stick to one LOL

SO i was thinking maybe PM and maca for follicular phase and aguaje for the luteal phase..hmmmmm and then maybe drink spearmint tea continuously as an anti androgen.....?

or is it pointless to only take maca for half of your cycle, would it have any benefit?

[verycurious]

i wonder if i could still incorporate FG into the maca, PM, agauaje program...I LOVE the effect FG has had on my WTH ratio? ...just another thought....

[Cat86]

How long have you been taking PM. Also I took FG with my PM for a bit but then I think my body got used to the FG. Now I only take it during the week of my period cuz I really like it too and I gotta give my body a lil PM break. Also have you tried hops? I feel it's good for swelling I just can't take it a lot cuz I think it gives me the blues a lil. I cycle PM but I only come off of it for a week. You should make PM your main herb then play with the cycling part and find a couple of secondary herbs to take when your not on PM. Also massage everyday and try to in a warm environment. And do u have a NB or thought about one?

[Isabelle]

Hi very curious,

PM and maca in follicular, and FG in luteal, has been done before. Spearmint throughout, yes. About aguaje, I don't know: has anyone tried it at all?

[verycurious]

I am on my 9th day of PM. Yes, I absolutely love FG and i really have never had a problem of smelling like maple syrup lol. But maybe using FG during my luteal phase will be enough to keep up with my WTH ratio.

As far as PM i am afraid to do anything but use it during my follicular phase and cyle so i dont mess with my natural cycle. but thats very interesting how you take Pm. What have your results been thus far? and how long have you been taking pm?

and im glad you brought that up as far as NB. I wrote it in one of my threads but always forget to include that in my updates. I do have a NB and i was very impressed with how it corrected the shape of my breasts after breastfeeding but I havent had any growth from the NB. And besides a week here and there from being out of town I have used it everyday for about 6 months for at least 45 min and up to two hours per day. This has deffintely been an uphill battle as far as growing boobies. but hey im going to keep trying. and good luck to you

[verycurious]

I know there was one girl on here that used aguaje. I know she did grow 3 inches from it and said basically it was the only thing that worked for her and she also used it with anti androgens on and off. Im pretty sure she used it continuously and did not cycle. I will look into it further and hopefully get some more info from her.

I know aguaje is loaded with Vit A and E and can make your boobies and butt grow. The wikipedia also stated that there has been recent findings that aguaje can absorb cancer causing UV rays from the sun. The more i read about it the more me likey!!

[Isabelle]

Good! If you look into aguaje, and try it, at least we learn something.

I don't use PM myself, for reasons I listed here:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=8419&pid=46876#pid46876
Some of these reasons are changing. I will probably try it when it becomes a registered traditional herbal medicine in Europe. Maybe it already is: I don't know if Biovea registered it.