[_Amonita_]

I'm very very confused with PM brands
During the past two, three weeks i have plenty of reserch on nbe.

I was thinking about herbs, in long list of phytoestrogen herbs i'd like saw palmetto the most, but it is not yet full tested, and i'm scared of bad side effects like blood clote. On some forum for hair loss one man wrote that when he stoped using sp. His hair fall out in 4 days like it's have been falling in one year, anyway he has much hair los in 4 days.

Pueraria mirifica, i've decided for this herb because it has the most phytoestrogen than all other herbs.It is mostly for woman in menopause so than the line fountain of youth make the sense, because it bring back some youth and beauty from younger days. I don't know how is that work for younger people but i'm ready to take the risk, and like anyone else i'm wondering which brand is not only positive effective, but safe too.

I'm looking for pills, caps, than maybe the cream (maybe i'm wrong but i see cream for breasts just as temporary collagen).

I've lookup for farmed cultivated pm, and I found
SIRIPORN, PUERARAPREM, to me it seems this is the purest pm, but i can't make order because i'm from southeast europe, but maybe i can email and ask them for order if it's worth.
AINTEROL: I've read positive and negative experience, i found some kind of fight about this brand, many people say it doesn't work, many it does, some says it is wild pm, some people it's pure pm, so i don't know, but 500 or 1000 mg is too much for my taste.
BIOVEA: Somewhere, maybe here i read that some girl increase her breast size for two cups but she stopped using it because it crushed her libido.
St.herb_ i think it's expensive, so i must be sure it's working
Uk pm-i've read some cases of blood clotting in some girl, so no no
PURAFEM: I found this attractive, but i dindn't found anything about where is manufactured, is it made in usa, or thailand or, or? It's says it is pure premium cultivated pm, but it doesen't say in details like siripon does, so i'm curious is it work?
THANYAPORN: On some sites it says it's 100mg, some is 350 mg, and it's not just pm in it?

I prefer lower doses like 100-350 mg pure pm, but i can't decided which one is the best and safe.
I've also read that some girls skin started age and break down with pm.

I'm almost 27 years old women, I have full B cup sometimes to C, im 85b, 34 B, but when i mesured myself i get the result that i'm 4-d which is apsurd I think.

I wanna one cup or one and a half more, like full C or D…and stick with that size, and I don't wanna increase my butt, I HAVE that.

I don't wanna mix pm with other herbs, i think that is malipulation and boom shock for your body and not that much nature then… because after you stop taking bunch of staff it's again boom for your body and you lost precious benefits. I think less is more, with healhy food, body exercise and so…
I'm mediterranean so I already eat healthy food and i'm going to start eating little more raw food.
I never took any herbs or pills for b. grow.

Do you found not just bigger breasts, also healthier skin, hair and else with pm as it every brand claims?
It's time to decided, because when i decided, order and receive order it will pass one more(or two) month.
Sorry for my long post, and i'm sorry if my english is little bit rusted.

[Venus]

I think the Thanyaporn is different from the rest of the brands you mentioned because it contains other herbs, mainly pepper and ginger. Simply, for each Thanyaporn pill you take, you get about 100 mg mg of Pueraria Mirifica and also about 250 mg of pepper and ginger. (white bottle, pink label, picture of white flower)

Actually Raksa (export brand from Thanyaporn) list the following:

-Pueraria Mirifica
-Piper Nigrum (Black pepper)
-Boesenbergia Rotunda (Chinese ginger)
-Piper Retrofractum (Long Pepper)

So there's quite a bit of pepper and ginger.

Following the recommended dosage of 1 capsule per day should not cause any discomfort. But once you start increasing the number of pills, the amount of pepper and ginger will add up fast. Pepper and ginger affects a person's blood circulation, I think the pepper and ginger aids in the effectiveness of each pill by improving blood circulation, but too much will cause discomfort. I think I've read on here about Thanyaporn pills causing some people discomfort. That maybe why.

Can't really compare the Thanyaporn pills with the other brand pills that contain only Pueraria Mirifica. If you plan on playing around with the dosages, best not to use the Thanyaporn pills, unless you can separate the Pueraria Mirifica from the pepper and ginger... which you cannot. Compound pills and Pure pills each serve a different purpose and way of use.

I have personally tried the Thanyaporn brand, but only for about 20 days and only 1/10 the capsule for each dose. Mainly to see its effects if any. It did seem like my skin looked a little different, like a bit more shiny. But it could be from applying moisturizer (coconut oil) too.

Right now, I'm using the Ainterol Powder, just the regular one Pure-m/R1. I like how I'm not consuming extra herbs and also that I can adjust the dosage, I bought a milligram scale for that. I just mix the powder in 1/2 cup of warmed milk. I will see in a month if my routine does anything.

I haven't tried any of the other brands. But I bought too much Pueraria Mirifica already so won't be buying anymore for a long time.

Yes, don't mix too many herbs at once. Only take what is needed.

[reginaab5000]

I read a lot of things that are not accurate on this forum. The thing that make the breasts grow is mirioestrol and deoxymirioestrol. Buying products that have the highest amiount of these compounds will help you reach your goals. Unfortunately wild pueraria mirifica has no significant amounts of deoxymirioestrol and lower levels of miroestrol than the higher quality farmed cultivars. The other herbs are just buzz.

EVeryone talks about capsules maybe because they are cheaper but topicals work far better for growing your breasts. The absolute silliest thing I have read that a few women have stalled or their breasts don't hurt anymore so they blame it on the brand or no expiratiion date......total rubbish...head cases

I bought a Kg of a farmed cultivar in Malaysia 7 years ago and I still use it. I don't use it for breast enhancement anymore because I don't want to get any bigger but I still use 100 mg/day 15 days a month for maintenance and pre-menstrual issues, This stuff is potent. I had stalled many times over the 2 years I was using it for breast enhancement I also make a topical which I use every so often

[Cat86]

Quick question. When you did stall usually how long was it for?

[_Amonita_]

First I'll go with the pills, I'm not sure will I know mix powder, and I will be again confused to finding a good powder.

@venus: I see that lot's of people use coconut oil, is that some special oil for breasts or usual one, I mostly use coconut lotion (because I love coconut smell the most of all lotions) for entire body, also almond lotion/oil is very good for skin, and many people says that eating almonds every day (half cup for coffee, for example) help increasing breast size, but i'm not sure will you gain weight too.

I forgot mention HERBAL ONE PM. BUST BE. 100 capsules, 350 mg3 times daily, i didn't find is it farm cultivated pure pm.
So I will choose between siriporn, herbal one, purafem, so if anyone have good experience with some of this brands, or maybe you have some other idea, brand let me know, i don't know what to do.

this is the reason why i'm so boring and heavy person, maybe i just go eat almonds, lol
http://www.ehow.com/list_6017153_dangers...ifica.html

@reginaab5000: Yes I know that mirioestrol and deoxymirioestrol make breast grow, that's why i'm looking for pure pm not wild,
siriporn is only brand that i've found it's really pure farmed cultivated pm made in their own laboratory ( i'm not saying it's only sir.farmed cultivated, I just get confused, almost all other brands sounds like they prescribing descriptions from each other)...

I'm not sure what is topical, that's topical use in form of creams and sprays?
And you bought kg pm of powder or what? and you use it orally and make by your own for topical use too.
How much mg per day was you using while you was in process of breast grow if now you sometimes use 100 mg.

so if I would use 100 to 400 mg per day I wan't get any breast grow?
I would start let's say 100/150 mg, and after month or two increase to 350/400 mg maximum and stay with that mg doses for further.

i've read that daily uses should be adjusting to your body weight, like if you weight 70 kg you must use 70 mg approximately so it's better smaller doses from 100 to 400 than 500 to 2000 like mostly people use.

[reginaab5000]

When did I stall. I stalled many times. I didn't pay much attention to that. Everybody is different. The way I got where I wanted to go is I just
stayed the coarse and didn't give up. I even't got some growth when I didn't want it. Its not straight up! Creams and other topicals work best but using capsules is helpful. The problem with capsules you have to take too much----600---800 mg is the side effects.


I see people use this word "pure". Pure what? This word says nothing. Pueraria Mirifica is pueraria mirifica but its not all the same. When companies are selling you high mgs cheap its always wild. The problem with wild you never know what you get because the people selling it don't know what they have got. Its cheap right because wild pueraria mirifica is inexpensive now to get.

[_Amonita_]

I realized that the wild pm is cheaper and it comes in high mg, that's the reason why i'm insist on smaller mg, because i think the pm that contains smaller mg is not wild. When I say pure I think 'not wild' but farmed cultivated, pure is just expression for easier understanding, i guess.

I'm just trying to figure what is the best and safe choice.

when your breasts grow to your wanted size they didn't returned to original size before nbe after some time?

[reginaab5000]

This important.......you will always need some maintenance. Maybe
a topical once a day or a few times a weeks....or even just a few hundred mg caps for pre-menstrual support. A great supplement to keep you young and vibrant!

[_Amonita_]

oh it's a treatment for whole life in smaller doses to kept size, ugh...

thank's for help.

By the end of the moth I will choose some brand who sells smaller mg doses caps and who's shipping to my country, and order the cream too.

I didn't get much help in choosing a brand, I just wanted to know more about purafem pm, herbal one and others, like does it work is ti farmed cultivated, is it good and so...but ok, I give up, I'll have to risk on my own responsibility, I'm just tired of reading and researching...

[Venus]

Actually, using the powder is not really that hard. The powder is only Pueraria Mirifica and nothing else. Just scoop some into something like milk and drink it.

I think how potent a product is depends on a lot of things. Most important is of course the quality of the herb/source itself, then how it is processed, the final form of the product (dried herb, powder, extract, etc), and also how it is delivered into the body. I've read that it works better after being processed by the liver like from taking pills, and I've read that it may work better if it avoids the digestive tract and liver like from applying the cream on the skin or taking edible extract under the tongue. But there's no clear answer there.

Now, the statement that Pueraria Mirifica makes breast grow is a bit inaccurate.

A more accurate statement would be that Pueraria Mirifica in a high enough dosage may increase a person's estrogen levels high enough to encourage the body to deposit more fat in certain areas.

But it also means other places on the body may get fatter too. And that's why Pueraria Mirifica seems like it's not working that well for some people. In the end, their own body makes the final decision on where to add the fat. If their body insist on putting more fat on their hips than on their breast. Then when they take in or contact something like Pueraria Mirifica or other estrogen-like substances, there will be a chance that their hips will have more growth than their breast. At least that's how I understand it.

I read in another forum, someone said that progesterone is important for breast growth too. She said something like: Pueraria Mirifica will encourage the body to deposit fat, but progesterone is what encourages "breast tissue" to grow. But from what I read, and kind of experienced, it's best not to play around with progesterone if it's not needed. Genetic women naturally produce progesterone anyways, until later in life.

The danger of progesterone is that if a person unknowingly has cancerous breast tissue cells in their breast, and uses progesterone cream, it may cause those cancer cells to grow too. Just have to be careful.

Oh, and I only recently started using coconut oil. I used to olive oil moisturize, but it would make my clothes smell and stain them. I think because I used a thicker olive oil, a lighter olive oil may have been better. But I just eat it now instead of putting it on my skin.

I use the coconut oil for my entire body. I got mine at the grocery store about $5 for a 500 ml jar. I don't think the coconut oil itself helps with breast growth, just makes it easier to massage the area which helps blood circulation, and because its edible there's no worry about getting it on the lips or in the mouth. I often use it as lip moisturizer.

My main reason for taking Pueraria Mirifica is for skin, hair, and overall youthfulness. Hopefully that will happen. Breast growth for me is not really that important. As I am a male. But if my breast do get bigger, I don't mind.