[shortcake]

I've decided to give NBE yet another try. My first round of NBE was quite successful with WonderUp in that I gained 1 1/2" in just three months. Unfortunately I had to stop taking it due to lots of ED symptoms. My last attempt ended around last Christmas and was basically completely unsuccessful. I tried the "regular" herbs, Noogleberry, BO, and PM with only very small amounts of sporadic swelling. So now I'm giving it another try in hopes that some changes I've made will help me get results!

For five months prior to this last cycle I was on Beyaz birth control pills. I *loved* the swelling it gave me but had to switch to a cheaper pill. I'm now taking Sprintec (generic for Ortho Cyclen) which is a combination (estrogen/progesterone) pill. It also gave me great swelling but maybe not quite as nice of a shape. But considering the price difference, I'm definitely not complaining! I will list my stats, but I have to say that I do have some swelling right now. Since I'm pretty much constantly swollen from the BCPs, I really don't know when the ideal time is for me to measure. But just keep in mind that the stats I'm posting are slightly larger than my "natural" size (which is very sad ). I would say that pre-BCP I was a 32AA and I'm now a full 32A, so as you can see they've been very helpful. This will making gauging results a little more difficult though because I'm constantly tender and sore, and as I said, swollen. For the last two weeks I've been massaging with my Booty Stacked PM cream that I had left over from last winter, and I did notice an increase in soreness and a little in swelling. I will continue using the Booty Stacked cream until I receive my Ro-Bust in the mail.

Age: 29
Sex: Female
Children: 1 son (7 years old)
Height: 5'1
Weight: 90lbs
Above Bust: 30"
Across Bust: 31"
Under Bust: 27 1/2"
Waist: 23"
Hips: 33"
Current Bra Size: 32A/32B in heavily padded bras

For my program, I will be taking 500mg per day of Ainterol PM and using Siriporn's Ro-Bust Lotion for massage twice a day. If I don't experience any negative side effects during the first cycle with that dosage, I will increase it to 1000mg per day for the second cycle. I will also be taking 3000mg of collagen (NeoCell Super Collagen+C Type 1&3, tablet form) and 1000mg of MSM (NOW Brand). My period started yesterday and I took my first doses of PM. I have also decided that I will follow what Ladyflash has done and take PM all throughout my cycle, stopping on the last day of my active pill. (I always start my period three days after.) I will see how that goes and then tweek it if needed.

AM
Massage with Ro-Bust
250mg PM
1 Collagen Tablet

Afternoon
1 Collagen Tablet
1000mg MSM

PM
Massage with Ro-Bust
250mg PM
1 Collagen Tablet

My goal is to at least become a full 32B and to hopefully gain some fullness on the tops of my breasts. My breasts naturally sit low on my chest, and the bulk of their volume rests in the bottoms and outer sides. So even though they're not technically "saggy," they appear to be due to their placement and composition. Even if they don't grow much, I would be thrilled with just filling them out in the areas they need it.

[shortcake]

It hasn't quite been a week yet but I wanted to make some notes so I'd remember them for future reference.

Yesterday (day 5 of cycle) when I woke up I realized I'd lost all my soreness and a fair amount of swelling. I took my first active bcp on Friday, so I've taken two so far. When I was on Beyaz, I never fully lost my soreness and swelling - even during my period. With Beyaz you take 24 active pills and 4 inactive pills, so I think that having such a short break between actives was what helped me keep my swelling and soreness more. In the future, I'm going to tweak my Sprintec to be more like Beyaz and take the 21 actives and only 4 inactives (as opposed to the 7 I'd normally take). **Please note: I am not taking birth control for birth control purposes! I do not recommend or suggest that anyone adjust their birth control like that when you're depending on it for actual birth control as it may decrease its effectiveness. Please consult your doctor before doing anything like that!!**

Last fall when I was on Beyaz I tried taking regular herbs with it and it caused me to lose all soreness and swelling I had from the bcp. I'm really hoping that's not what's going on right now, with Sprintec and PM. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it comes back, especially because I have a trip coming up in a few weeks! I just ordered a new swimsuit for the trip and I went a cup size larger because I had such great swelling at the time I ordered it. Now if it doesn't come back, it'll probably be too big. Also, I will be not be taking my inactive pills next time and will start taking another pack immediately following the last active pill of this pack because, of course, the trip will fall right when I'd have my period. So I need to figure out what I'm going to do during that time. I guess I'll have to take PM the whole time because stopping it could cause bleeding, right? That should, at the very least, cause some pretty awesome swelling, assuming it comes back at all.

My Ro-Bust will be arriving tomorrow and I will begin using that. I really want to start focusing more on massage since I'm wanting to keep the internals low.

[shortcake]

Good news! I noticed that a tiny bit of soreness was coming back yesterday and after using Ro-Bust lotion just once last night, I woke up to much fuller, more sore breasts today. I would say that they're nearly as full/swollen as they get when I'm nearing the end of my bc pill pack, so that's pretty awesome. In the past, even on Beyaz, it would take a week - week and a half to really start getting my soreness and swelling back after starting a new pack so this tells me that the PM is doing something. I'm also just thrilled that I'm getting it back at all since, as I said before, when I tried to add regular herbs to Beyaz last summer I lost all soreness and swelling.

A few notes:
* I'm only going to measure once a month.
* I haven't been taking MSM because the NOW brand of it... "upsets" my stomach. I need to go back to the Spring Valley brand.
* There are days when I end up taking 750mg of PM, if I'm in a hurry to leave the house and don't have time to empty half a capsule into juice and mix it and drink it. In the past, changing up doses has been a good thing for me though.
* At my smallest (the day I posted about having lost all my soreness and most of my swelling) I measured 30.75" across my bust.

[shortcake]

For the last few days my breasts have been so insanely sore that massaging has been pretty difficult to do, but I'm definitely still doing it!!! I've been getting loads of pains, tingles, aches, etc. And they are SO FULL!!!! It's just amazing. I look and feel like I actually have breasts. They're still small of course, but they actually look like boobs! They have shape and volume! This is by far the biggest and fullest they've been since I was pregnant and breastfeeding. I feel like I'm finally going through puberty. I just did a quick measurement and I'm at 31 1/4" across bust right now, which is 1/2" up from my smallest point. What's really great is that my cleavage area is fuller too, so my breasts look closer together. They're definitely fuller than when I was on bcp alone so I know some of this is due to the PM.

It looks like I won't be taking two bcp packs in a row because my trip has been moved to next weekend instead of the weekend after. So now I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do around/during my period. I guess I'll stop PM on the day that I take my last active pill and start up at a very low dose again once it starts? I'm kind of unclear on that. Guess I'll have to do some research. I will be so beyond thrilled if I keep any of this fullness during/after my period!!

[Doll]

I've never gained anything from BCP alone, probably because my estrogen dropped SO much during puberty, the BCP barely brought it up enough to prevent my cramps that almost had me rushing to the hospital every month. :/

I was taking Ortho Cyclen before, and it gave me my monthly for a month and a half. So just be careful with that, the way you're tweaking the doses. It also messed up my hormones to the point where my libido dropped off the face of the earth completely.

Glad to hear you're getting growth and fullness already! Keep it up! I know it's hard to massage when they're so sore, but if you keep with it, eventually the pains will go away and you'll just have beautiful, large breasts!

[christinaaah]

Hi shortcake! Wondering how your plan is going.. We have very similar plans (on BCP, PM, collagen, and MSM)!