[Kins]

Hi guys!

This website is fab, the information on here is wonderful, the only problem I that there is soooooo many facts and advice that it is hard to work out which is the best route to go down.

I have been taking fenugreek on and off for a year or so now and have noticed the aches and pains on the odd occasion and have noticed a definite fullness. I have been taking the fenugreek sprouts and eating 2-3 spoonfuls of the seeds as they are a lot cheaper than buying the capsules, does anyone know if this is just as affective? I've also been doing breast massage daily for 10/15 mins with almond oil which I have blended together with fenugreek leaves, has anyone ever tried this? I have only been doing this the past few days so will keep everyone updated.

Also, I would love if anyone could point me in the right direction.... I was thinking of including red clover, hops, saw palmetto or wild yams but which combinations would you suggest is best? I don't know if I should buy FG in capsule form and stop taking the seeds/sprouts. The other question I have is would I be better to buy red clover as an extract to apply to my breasts in massage? I have read that up to 80% more goodness is absorbed through the breast tissue, so in that case does it mean that tablets are a waste of money?

I'm confused! I really would like to achieve 1-2 cup growth, I'm currently a 32B and at the age of 28 (having had a child already) have had a shrinkage since I was in my early 20s. I am also a great believer in positive thinking so I think everyone should think positively to their program's no matter how great or small they are and believe in theirselves.

If anyone else has any hints and tips for NBE that aren't too expensive and can help people on a budget please feel free to post.

Thanks for taking your time to read my post xxx

[Doll]

That's cool that you're taking FG seeds that way, I've heard of a few other women taking them like that, too. I'm not sure how it will affect the results; in one aspect, you're not getting any fillers. However, I'm not sure if you're able to consume the same amount that way that you would be able to taking it in pill form.
I say, keep at it with the FG seeds, but you definitely need to add something else. Right now, my program is FG, Saw Palmetto and Red Clover. However, I have been switching every two months between red clover and hops (just to see the difference it might make). I'm still not sure which I like better, but it's usually better to switch them every once in a while anyway to help prevent stalling. A lot of people also use Wild Yam with great results, but I've never tried it. I might if my growth starts to stall.
Pills are NOT a waste of money. It's usually good to eat them on an empty stomach, at least 20 minutes before a meal. However, I know hops work best if taken with food, so keep that in mind. If you're worried about a budget, I say take the pills for a few months, see where it gets you, and if you're not getting enough growth, then try adding an extract for massage. I've been dry massaging this whole time with great results, and just added flaxseed oil, which doesn't seem to be giving me any added results yet. Everyone's body is different, but it's much better to take the pills so your hormones can be stabilized internally, rather than only absorbing some of the benefit (with massage, most of the oil will end up on your hands rather than you breasts).

It's all very confusing at first, but once you decide on a routine, you'll get the hang of it more and more through first-hand experience. Also, a lot of women cycle stuff according to where they are in their monthly cycle, so maybe look into that. I don't know anything about cycles, but I stop all my herbs for 5 days starting on the first day of my monthly. This keeps my hormone receptors from filling up, so I don't stall with results. Also, cleanse every three months (most people use milk thistle, but I've tried it and I prefer full body detox kits) to flush your body of the extra hormones.

Hope you get the hang of it real soon, and good luck!

[Kins]

Thanks for your help Doll.

I think I'm going to change my plan and have a bash at the SP and red clover combined with the fenugreek seeds and massage with the fenugreek leaves soaked in almond oil.

It will be really interesting to see the results of the FG leaves in oil. I mixed the FG leaves and oil in my vitamix and added geranium essential oil and ylang ylang essential oil which is supposed to help with NBE and makes the mixture smell nice!! Anyone had any results using essential oils??

Also has anyone had any results from flaxseed/wheat germ/sesame seed oil? I've also read that dill and liquorice are good options?

xxx