[SugarQ]

Curious.. would flax seeds and progesterone cancel eachother out or help eachother in the process? If not, what are the best herbs to combine with progesterone? (Already adding l arginine)

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[surferjoe2007]

I'll try to answer both your threads here. Yes phytoestrogens and progesterone combine very well, though flax seeds are weak phytoestrogens. While they may lower each other a little, estrogen requires progesterone to work. Pueraria mirifica is much stronger, and there are a few accounts of rapid results with PM + progesterone. It's also quite cheap. There's a whole section of these forums with more information which you should read first because it is very strong. Don't combine with flax seeds because they'll compete and flax might lessen the effect of the PM. The next item that costs little would be whole fenugreek seeds (not powder), such as from www.mountainroseherbs.com or another supplier of whole seeds. There are about 3 grams in a teaspoon of seeds. Soak overnight in water to prevent digestive problems, then rinse them off before consuming. Soaking seeds also dramatically increases B vitamins which are helpful. Eat raw or cooked. Start at 2 grams. If you feel faint or dizzy eat some sugar and stop using them; it's low blood sugar from increased insulin sensitivity. Otherwise if you feel fine you can use 2 to 25 grams where more has a greater and faster effect. For both including shipping you're looking at *at most* $80 for 6 months, or a lot less depending on dose.

There are other options but they're more expensive and less helpful. You could eat joint foods like tendon and cartilage off the ends of bones whenever you eat meat. Both contain collagen, which is an important raw material. The other expensive option instead of this would be MSM for sulfur. A little fresh fruit (not dried or canned) is also helpful not as a material but to assemble materials. You might also look into saw palmetto extract if you have the money, to lower dihydrotestosterone.

[SugarQ]

@surferjoe2007

Thank you so much for such a detailed answer. I have some PM on the way so will experiment with combining the two.

[surferjoe2007]

Happy to help. I just thought of something else. Fenugreek and flax seeds are fairly cheap, nutritious and filling foods. The actual cost compared to other food you might buy is zero or negative. If PM turns out to be too strong for you, you could continue with flax even though it is slower. Or use a smaller amount to use it up. Besides being very high in a variety of B vitamins once sprouted (soaked), both fenugreek and flax have a lot of magnesium, some calcium, zinc and many other minerals. Fenugreek is also very high in iron and flax is very high in ALA essential fatty acids. For iodine and other trace minerals for a healthy thyroid (which helps) you could pick up some kelp and consume 1/4 tsp. per day. That amount gets you enough iodine without a risk of getting too much even if you already had enough. 4 ounces would last you 9 months and costs $2 at mountain rose herbs.