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I first started off this program 32" across the bust...a tight 34A-32B.
I first started off on May of this year 32" across the bust and started taking herbs the first day of my period which was literally May 1st. I bought fenugreek seeds and as bad tasting as they were I would wash them down with milk and immediately my breasts became sensitive. I experimented by adding Don quai, Royal Jelly, Vitex, and a PM concoction. In 1 month I went from 32" to 331/2" that was an inch and a half of permanant growth.

As soon as my menses came the next month I started ainterol PM but being the newbie that I am I thought taking more PM would mean faster growth...nearing my 12th day of my cycle i was taking 4 caps of ainterol PM which amounted to 2,000mgs, WHAT WAS THAT FOR!?!. As soon as I stopped on my 12th day I began bleeding and I was 3-4 weeks late on my menses. No growth to report since I overdosed my breast receptors where they wouldnt respond.

July I started 200mgs of Siriporn and by day 12 had ramped up to 400mgs. During that time my skin was unbelievably soft then it became sensitive and my back broke out with red painful acne and my hair started falling out. I figured since others were taking 400mgs and it was less than 1 capsule (500mgs) of ainterol and I wasnt exceeding the 1,000mgs it was ok. I was only a week late on my menses since Today it came *relieved* On siriporn I was a 331/2" where I left off with the herbs and swelled to 341/2 but after I stopped taking it (day12) i deflated back to 331/2"

During my Luteal phase I did a week of milk thistle cleanse and started back on my herbs and swelled up to 35" ( the biggest Ive every been!) Today my menses came and im a 341/2" a whole inch in about 1 and a half weeks of herbs. Today I got my menses and im reluctant to start on PM since Im having great results with herbs and my breasts r so painful, tender, and itchy and Im on my menses but since Ive been improperly taking the PM I dont want to give up on it. Especially the wonderful results I got from siriporn skin wise when I was taking it properly.

This will be my drawing board so I will be returning and adding new things so I wont forget what Im doing, what im taking, or what will happen if I do certain things again.

LUTEAL PHASE:

Taking fenugreek seeds 1 tea bag in the morning 1 evening ( dont judge me for eating seeds from a tea bag LOL )
4 caps of saw palmetto in morning and 4 caps evening
2 caps of red clover morning and evening
4 caps of vitex morning and evening (2x a week) not everyday

PM topical of PM powder and alcohol noticing more response after adding MSM to topical.

Follicular Phase:
Day 2-7 100mgs Siriporn PM
Day 7-12 200mgs Siriporn PM
PM topical concontion mentioned above

Progress to note: I will begin this cycle of PM starting 341/2" across bust compared to last month at 331/2"

I have pictures and will post them once I photoshop my areolas out LOL!
I dont know if it is the combo of PM follicular and herbs luteal but something is happening...im itchy and tender!

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after another month on PM I started off 341/2 across the bust and am on luteal phase...I wanted to check if the herbs were responsible for the growth which I've been suspecting and this month decided no herbs and I've shrunk to a 34" so that 1/2" wasn't permanent. I had no swelling or pains just my skin a tad softer taking the recommended dosage of siriporn...started day 2-7 100mgs Day 8-11 I ramped to 200mgs I stopped day 11 due to unwelcomed spotting.

I went ahead and did some research on the gland therapy section and did research on BB and UB and decided to just order the ingredients mentioned on BB from swanson I bought bovine ovary, putuitary gland, and kelp. I aslo ordered chicken sternum collagen ( it seems to be a very popular collagen for breast growth). Once I get my order in I will take this week for a milk thistle cleanse. And start right away.

I've been underestimating herbs and so far that's whats been working. I'm so curious and want to find what method is best with my body or what reaction I get from each method and the best one that works is the one ill go with.

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Its been alittle over a week since I started glandulars from swanson. I also incorpoated l-tyrosine and chicken sternum collagen to the mix. I usually have a low body tempurature most of the time even during ovulation and the kelp combined with the l-tyrosine is really helping with making my body temps high.

Yesterday menses came without any problems and I don't have any pains or symptoms of PMS so I think glandulars are the way to go so far.

Progress: My body is definitely changing. My butt, hips, and thighs have filled out dramatically which I'm not complaining cuz I feel and look great but my focus is my boobies. As far as the boobs go I had swelled close to 35 1/2" and now that I'm on my menses ( day 2 ) the swelling is gone and I'm alittle over 34 1/2" but not a solid 35 yet but its better than the 34" I had started off with. The shape of my breasts is changing and my breasts are more effortlessly jiggly.

Downside: I have gained over 5 pounds and can't get it off.

[highhopes]

Its been a couple months taking glandulars and my body has drastically changed! My hips are outstandingly wider my butt is way bigger. I feel very shapely and my body is drawing LOTS of attention but my stubborn breasts
H have barely grown!!! This month I took BO during luteal and PM during follicular along with rubbing a zhi mu oil I made on my breasts. I just finished menstration and my breasts measure 351/2 inches ( biggest I've been off luteal phase swelling )! Something is definitely happening to them since they have changed in shape ( less tubular more round ) I hardly recognize my breasts but since their attached to me I know their mine

Right now I'm taking a break and doing a cleanse. I'm feeling so happy with my shape at the moment...I'm going to try another month of cycling PM and BO and if I grow even a quarter of an inch more and have no menstrual problems next month then its an indication that this combo is working...if not then its back to the drawing board!

[kmgator]

Well at least with every method and program you've formulated and given a shot you've made a gain, even if small! It adds up, doesn't it!

Hopefully this new method works for you, I know a lot of people do herbs with PM or just BO, I've personally never read the combo of PM and BO. As they say, don't knock it til you've tried it!

Also, I think most of us are going through trial and error at times... Anyways best of luck to you!

[hopefulgrowing]

wow you actually got good growths going on, in a month or so 1" or more is fantastic ! even .5" because inches are huge... they add up ! good luck on the rest of your journey i can see if you find something that works for you in no time you'll reach your goal !

[highhopes]

Thank you girls for the encouraging words

On the first couple months on BO the lower half of my body changed so much Kim Kardashian has nothing on me The first place people look at is my lower half and I have to keep slapping my hubbys hands off of my booty! Lol. My breasts have definitely changed too. When first starting off I had tubular breasts ( which I hear are the hardest to grow ) Now my left breast has completed rounded and no longer looks like a missle my right breast is still slightly tubular and the smaller of the two but its catching up. I have been slow to add the before and after pics since Im not quite there yet on the after pics.

I know people will criticize me for taking the BO and PM but I had to give it a try instead of just wondering. I said to myself " If i get a bad reaction Im gonna stop" but so far I feel great and just finished my menses and my breasts hurt like hell, if my menses come on time and no other complications arise I will continue to do the BO (luteal ) PM ( follicular 8 days ) One thing that I have been keeping tabs on is the little buds behind my nipples are swelling and hurt like when I was 11 yrs old but Im so afraid of breast cancer that Ive been kind of more worried.

I think what is giving the BO and PM a boost has been the supps Ive been taking to raise my body temp.
I always had low temps and tubular breasts so Im thinking it was more of a thyroid problem than a lack of hormones but I wont knock the hormones since its been an extra boost for the feminine hour glass figure Ive always wanted.

Edit: One more thing which I noticed is that Im currently taking no supps just doing the milk thistle cleanse and notice that Im getting headaches...I used to get headaches when taking PM alone and at that time i was showing lots of signs of estrogen dominance but Im not taking anything at the moment. ???

[TibetanPrincess]

Thank you girls for the encouraging words

On the first couple months on BO the lower half of my body changed so much Kim Kardashian has nothing on me The first place people look at is my lower half and I have to keep slapping my hubbys hands off of my booty! Lol. My breasts have definitely changed too. When first starting off I had tubular breasts ( which I hear are the hardest to grow ) Now my left breast has completed rounded and no longer looks like a missle my right breast is still slightly tubular and the smaller of the two but its catching up. I have been slow to add the before and after pics since Im not quite there yet on the after pics.

I know people will criticize me for taking the BO and PM but I had to give it a try instead of just wondering. I said to myself " If i get a bad reaction Im gonna stop" but so far I feel great and just finished my menses and my breasts hurt like hell, if my menses come on time and no other complications arise I will continue to do the BO (luteal ) PM ( follicular 8 days ) One thing that I have been keeping tabs on is the little buds behind my nipples are swelling and hurt like when I was 11 yrs old but Im so afraid of breast cancer that Ive been kind of more worried.

I think what is giving the BO and PM a boost has been the supps Ive been taking to raise my body temp.
I always had low temps and tubular breasts so Im thinking it was more of a thyroid problem than a lack of hormones but I wont knock the hormones since its been an extra boost for the feminine hour glass figure Ive always wanted.

Edit: One more thing which I noticed is that Im currently taking no supps just doing the milk thistle cleanse and notice that Im getting headaches...I used to get headaches when taking PM alone and at that time i was showing lots of signs of estrogen dominance but Im not taking anything at the moment. ???

Congrats on your changes. I too, have gained a few pounds and I have had a .5" growth to contribute to both butt and chest. i have not gained in the waist however. This is from taking both bio identicals and BO. I know my extra protein intake is what contributed to my weight gain.

Has the wight come from protien intake or something else.

[kmgator]

Could the headaches be that you're not getting enough water and hydration (or are losing fluids and not replacing them) or even nutrients during your cleanse? I've also read on webmd that there's a chance it could mimic estrogen but there's no solid proof that it truly does.

Yet the BO/PM has caught my eye, I'm definitely going to look into that combo more. Also what BO are you using? I read you're basically making your own mix based of another one from Swanson but have you changed that or anything?

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@kmgator: Im taking the BO, pituitary, kelp, and l-tyrosine from swanson. I havent really changed anything but have taken it easy on the L-tyrosine since it made my legs feel swollen and definitely was one of the contributors to my weight gain but I havent stopped it completely. Funny thing is since starting the BO mix I find myself not wanting to drink liquor which is surprising since I love drinking and I find myself warm and sleepy, at 7pm im dosing off watching tv. (kind of like a pregnant woman)

@tibetan113: I mentioned on my Sept post that I had gained a little over 5 pounds but after that it went to 12 pounds I had to stop taking the protein and then I noticed the l-tyrosine was also contributing so I cut down on it but not completely since it was a real help along with the kelp. Thank you and congratulations to you too on your growth...as the saying goes "slowly but surely"