[Mellephant]

Hi Francesca,

When did you up to 3x500mg pm? How long did you do that for and when did you see results?

What are you taking now and how are you getting on?

[b00ba]

Hi Francesca,

Your post is such an inspiration because I am where your before pic is. I was also taking 500mgx2/day for my first cycle, but have held back from the Ainterol pills for my second cycle because I missed my period last month. Instead, I just continued "cycling" with the spray 2x a day instead and my breasts have been sore and super bouncy.

Congrats on the growth! Your breasts have great shape and I am sure your fiance is happy with the results

[francesca22]

Hello again breastnexus, I haven't seen you in awhile,
I am back to start my NBE process again. I have been inconsistent for like a month then completely went off for another month. I just came back from my honeymoon on Saturday and it sparked my desire to do NBE once again. Before the wedding I lost a bunch of weight, I dieted a lot and worked out even more. I gained a lot of lean muscle which means a lot of my fat got eaten up. On top of that i didnt do NBE so my breasts got a lot smaller, I think to their previous A cup size. I went on my honeymoon and ate to my hearts desire! Although I didnt gain a lot of weight, my boobs went back to a B but not my NBE B cup.
When I went on my honeymoon I just felt so self-conscious about my breasts. I bought two bathing suits with LOTS of padding which gave me as much cleavage as a A-B cup woman can have. And almost every night at dinner I wore a push up bra. I kept seeing women with implants and it was getting to me. Before the honeymoon I must admit I created an account for a website called myfreeimplants.com. It is pretty popular but if you've never heard of it here is the whole objective: women who do not have the means to buy breast implants join the website, in the hopes of men donating to their implant fund. I was active for a couple of days then I realized it is all guys that just want to see your breasts. I only spoke to one man who did not want that and donated at least $10. I think the only way to get breast implants on that site is to degrade yourself. Needless to say I am not going back on anytime soon.

So, yesterday I started my PM back up again. I will start at 500mg of Ainterol for two weeks at first, then go up to 1000mg. I do not have the funds right now but maybe my next paycheck I will get more PM cream because I have found that it helps a ton when you use it with the capsules. I also have PG cream which I used for a little bit but I never saw an improvement so maybe when I figure out how to use it better by reading some more posts, I will try it again. I am actually happy to be starting NBE again and I hope this time will prove better. I am thankful I am not starting from scratch again and that I have a little meat to work with now

[Helena St]

Good luck with your new start! I have a lot of insecurities about my boobs too...deflated breastfeeding boobs.

I know not all guys are the same, but I think the general consensus is this, and this is what my husband says. I asked him when he thinks I look better, when I am heavier with nicer boobs, or when I am skinnier with smaller boobs. And he says this. "You know when you look the sexiest to me.? you want the honest truth?.... when your being nice and paying attention to ME!!!!"

On another forum I am on (which is not breast related) a bunch of women got on there and were talking about boobs and boob jobs and such. Several men (grown men, not teen guys) got on there and said yeah big boobs are nice, but women care WAY more about breast size than men do, and what is more important to a man, how a women carries herselfs, acts sexy, and pays attention to him. My husband seems to agree with this and would say most of his friends would too. Granted they are all grown married (possibly attentions starved) men now and not horny young teens haha.

I have to keep reminding myself of this otherwise I get so overly obsessed (sometimes I still so lol)

ETA - I think you have AWESOME boobs. I wish mine looked like that!

[francesca22]

Thanks for encouragement angel34. I know, my husband says that women care about boobs more than men do haha. But he reacts differently to a girl with large breasts than to my breasts and it makes me feel like crap . He always says they're nice and they have a nice shape but sometimes I don't believe him.


I went off my birth control for insurance reasons, and because of that I decided to cycle. I started PM the day I finished my period and then continued for 15 days. After the 15 days I did a little mad scientist experiment with the herbs I have in my cupboard. I have some PC cream, FG, and Maca.

The PM did not do anything! It may have increased it enough for my bras to be fitting like normal again but I didn't get any swelling, any pain, any sign it was working. You would think taking a month off I would get some kind of sign! I don't know what it is but PM never worked magic for me and I have been using it since January if I remember correctly. At first I got amazing swelling and growth, and maybe some cycles after that I would get a little growth, but not enough to continue using it for my routine. The times PM worked the best for me was if I was also using PM cream, but I am out of PM cream and don't have enough money to buy more.

I remember a few months ago I added Fenugreek to my PM routine and I got awesome swelling and growth from that. It came to a halt unfortunately, which I believe was from using an herb with PM. Since I have FG I decided I will take that with the Maca and PC cream. I am taking PC cream because I believe I overloaded on estrogen. I never cycled my PM (only 4-5 days to get my period) and I was also on BCP. I think the PC cream will allow my estrogen receptors to go back to normal.

This is my second day with the new routine (I think its the luteal cycle?). I am taking 2 capsules of Fenugreek (2,000 mg total) in the morning with one Maca (500 mg) and the same at night. I am also applying PC cream when I wake up and when I go to sleep. So far I am having some deep, itchy pains in my breasts! I hope this will result in growth. If I do get growth from this I might just stick with this routine. If I stop I decided I will go start using another brand of PM capsules and cream. I have been researching siriporn and I want to see how I will react to it.

Any advice would be great!! I need all the help that I can get.

[Helena St]

I like the idea of using PM for a couple of months, breaking then using an herb program for 1 or 2 months, then back to PM. that is what I plan on doing anyways (unless of course I get really good growing pains from herbs).

I really like the PM cream too. Robust and siriporn are giving me good aches, but havent seen growth as I'm only about 6 weeks into it. I grew very slow during puberty, like it took me 3 or 4 years to grow boobs I think, but probably a lot of it was because I was really skinny, so once I started putting on weight they got bigger.

Love to see how the herbs works for ya.


From the looks of your before pics compared to your after, I think it looks pretty amazing! I would be super excited if I got that much growth even if it took a year! I have that issue with weight loss though, too, it always comes right off my boobs first

[francesca22]

Hey angel, besides the siriporn have you been doing the PM and herbs on and off also? If so how is it working for you. I might just try that. I think my body got used to PM and I have to break through it. I also was a late developer in the boob department. It wasnt until i was 19 and taking birth control that my boobs completely developed. Everything else was very developed though, especially my hips and butt! Haha. i wonder if late bloomers have a harder time growing?

[Helena St]

The only herb I do, is once in a while I add fenugreek liquid extract to my massage. It seems to work best if I only use it once in a while, like maybe evey 3 days or so, I will notice more aches. IDK why that is. I also do goats rue internal and in my massages, ramping up toward the end of the month, along with ramping up my PM.

I am pretty sure I am going to do the greenbush plan next, and use milk thistle to cleanse beforehand.

My program is here, best described in post #8, http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=12823except that I'm not doing the fenugreek every day. I only follow this loosely, basically I've just kind of been listening to my body as to when to up dosing and such, trying to keep the growing pains going. I'm on BCP's so I dont cycle, otherwise, I would do a PM/greenbush cycling plan.

[francesca22]

Thanks so much for the advice angel! Ive been so finicky with my plan lately. I went back to PM! Im still taking MSM and i ordered robust lotion because i kept hearing great things about it on here. Ive been back on PM for two days already and im feeling slight tingles and heaviness. My husband even said something about my breasts which is always good! I think i just needed a legitimate cleanse to get my results back. I did a milk thistle cleanse for a week or two, 1000mg a day.

Im feeling more positive about my NBE journey and i hope i can get back to my previous size soon!

[francesca22]

Im gonna post a couple of pics to show where I am starting from this go-around. As you can see I have quite a way to go before I reach where I used to be. I found some pictures that I sent to my husband in July and my breasts were so much fuller and stood out so much more than they do now. I can't believe I stopped and thought that I wasnt growing! Once you lose and see proof of it, you realize how crazy you were for thinking you were small in the first place!!

But here is me now, you can compare it to my last pictures from my last major swelling and how big of a difference it was.
Maybe the cleanse was good for me, but I don't think I have to take as much time off as I did. Next time I'll just do a milk thistle cleanse for a week when I am on my period.