[jeanne_88]

Hi everyone

After browsing many forums and reading many articles on NBE I decided to ask for help here.

3 months ago I started my nbe program with fenugreek, wild yam, saw palmetto and fennel.

Unfortunately, I had to quit fenugreek because I just couldn't stand the smell of my body. Besides, I started putting on weight significantly.

I'm still taking SP, WY and fennel (I take regular breaks after 2 weeks of drinking fennel tea).

My breasts have been growing veeery slow and I decided to add breast massage. However, I read it's not that healthy, can make your breasts saggy and contibute to tumours. Anyone here has heard about such problems? Maybe just fat transferring massage should do the trick?

In addition, SP lowered my libido significantly and I've decided to take damiana pills instead of WY (Damiana is herbal aphrodisiac used in nbe pills as well).

In conclusion (sorry if my post is chaotic) my routine would be as follows:
* Damiana one pill 2 / day, morning and evening (325 mg each)
* SP one pill / day (320 mg)
* fennel tea 2/ day with regualar breaks after 2 - 3 weeks
* probably fat transferring massage (without breasts massaging) 2 / day.

Could anyone please comment on my decision? I couldn't find any info on Damiana on this forum but I really would like to give it a try because it enhances libido and mood as well. I have the feeling that SP works very slow but I don't want to quit it because it helped me with acne and hair problems.
I don't want to take red clover because it dilutes blood and I already have very hard periods (due to SP I guess).
I know that nbe is natural and it needs some time to work but I feel my progress is really very slow (maybe because I'm a little bit cautious and try not to harm myself with all those herbs

[AbiDrew85]

If you lost libido on SP don't take SP. I take 480mg daily of extract and have LOTS of libido, especially when my estrogen is high.

SP is a T-blocking herb. If you lose libido taking it, that means you're bringing your T levels too low.

[jeanne_88]

Thanks for advice.

But I really want to continue taking SP because I've got thin hair on head and lots of unwanted hairs everywhere else... And it helped with my acne as well...

Do you think that taking damiana would help with libido? Or myabe just decreasing amount of SP? Or maybe spearmint tea would do the trick but I guess it doesn't make your breasts grow...

[Outofstyle]

I am all for damiana, I love love love it.
I drink mine as a tea. Damiana works as an aphrodisiac mainly because it relaxes the nervous system and increases blood flow. Increasing your blood flow would help with libido and breast growth.

With that said.. I have not ever noticed substancially that the tea increased my libido but I do firmly believe in it. When I was 17, I went backpacking through mexico, and I was given fresh damiana leaves to eat. I was told that the mexican people referred to it as "viagra of the desert" and on my entirely empty stomach the damiana gave me a floating, uplifted euphoric feeling. It caught me by surprise, like I was given a drug! Tea or pills wouldn't be as strong as eating fresh leaves (plus my severe hunger/small frame/young age) but it definitely does affect a person.