(29-09-2013, 16:30)tibetan113 Wrote: @Timarie, I meant to add a while ago, while I was researching T and E, I read that the breast receptor sites can be either occupied by estrogen or testosterone.
I was always under the impression progesterone, testosterone had their own receptors in the breasts and ly dormant when the opposing hormones were dominant , but the more I am reading, the more I am finding out, that T can occupy all of these receptors just as Estrogen, and now I am assuming it may be the same for progesterone.
So with working out of the upper chest, it may be that MOST if not MANY of your breast receptors may never have a chance of being filled with Estrogen.
So I don't know if a strong antiandrogen would be the answer alone, or if you need to work out less in addition to it. Just something to think about if you haven't.
This is partly true, and this is why I've encouraged her to try anti-androgens. I DON'T think she should have to reduce her workouts any. And that would actually be harmful to her lower body routine. MAYBE she MIGHT want to think about stopping working on her pectorals, but certainly shouldn't need to worry about her lower body hurting anything.
If this DOESN'T work I do already know she'd rather abandon attempts at getting a larger breast size than abandon her workout routines or even ease up on them.
I said it's partly true because you're slightly misunderstanding I think how the receptors work. Only estrogens bind to estrogen receptors. Only progesterone and progestins bind to progesterone receptors. And only androgens bind to androgen receptors. However, when there is too much of one of these, it inhibits the binding for the other two. Not because it's stealing receptors, but because it's congesting the traffic.
(29-09-2013, 16:42)tibetan113 Wrote: Also, with BO, it actually does contain hormones, but it also contains nutritional support. The enzymes and growth factors nourish the glands, it strengthens them to function at their best. So its technically both hormonal supplementation and glandular strengthening. These hormones are still stronger than phyto estrogens. So with PM, it will most likely be competing with BO hormones/your own hormones, so best to not use too much PM (if you are going this route).
She's already quit PM before starting BO. Though I'm not so sure they compete at all anyways. Maybe they do. But I really don't think so. There are more than one kind of receptor for each of the three main hormone groups... There's at least two identified major ones for estrogens, and in animal testing, they've found that plant-based estrogens tend to prefer the beta sites and animal estrogens tend to prefer the alpha sites. So they'd actually cooperate up to a certain point. But past the "traffic congestion" point they'd just clog up the system, obviously.
Her stopping PM was a GOOD idea actually on two fronts: she was already upper-range on estrogen, so she'd likely go into traffic congestion if she tried taking more than one source. And also because she was already BALANCED, taking PM could have UNBALANCED her, which I'm pretty sure was already happening before
And, I hope you're right! Katy Perry boobage, please!!
And should I do a milk thistle cleanse? Heck, why not... it can't hurt...
