[mochaccino]

I've been researching it, but I've only been able to find sites that show abnormal hormone ranges that occur during puberty because of over exercising, or diseases etc. Obviously, doctors must know the normal hormone ranges during puberty, or they wouldn't be able to label levels outside those ranges abnormal. I don't know why it's been such a pain to find this information. I did find a page that lists normal hormone ranges for grown women: http://www.ehow.com/facts_6370569_normal...mones.html It does show the level of FSH during puberty, but doesn't show pubertal levels of the other hormones for some reason. I'm going to keep searching, but hopefully someone already has a link to a site that shows normal female hormone ranges during puberty.

[mochaccino]

I'm hoping to get a rough idea of what the ranges are throughout the entire cycle during puberty, which is going to be even more difficult. I might have do some math after finding out what the average normal range is, and figuring out what the "baseline" on menstrual charts actually represents for each hormone.

First let me explain what I mean by "baseline". At one point, Isabelle said that the "0" on menstrual charts represents the baseline level of all of the hormones, and not a complete lack of any of the hormones. The reason it's done that way is to make the chart small enough to read (since the ranges of these various hormones vary drastically) and to make up for the fact that hormones are not all measured in the same units. In other words, if Isabelle is correct, the charts show the relationship of various hormones to their respective baselines, and not their relationship to each other, even though almost every lay person seems to misinterpret it in that way. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Isabelle's explanation makes perfect sense to me, and now that I've thought about it, I don't see how it would be practical to make a chart showing the true relationship of these hormones to each other, rather than in relation to their respective baselines. I hope that make sense. If not, maybe you can find Isabelle's awesome explanation, which might be in her program thread. I read a long time ago and I don't know where it is.

[AbiDrew85]

I honestly don't know either, except that it's elevated compared to maturity...

This could certainly be interesting to know, because I doubt going much higher than pubertal ranges would help any and might actually hurt.

[mochaccino]

I found something! http://aitlvideo.uc.edu/aitl/NewLaBarb/3...Stages.swf

Unfortunately it looks like girls do NOT have higher sex hormone levels during puberty as compared to adulthood. It turns out that all those dumb TV jokes are wrong, and teenagers do not have tons of excess hormones compared to adults. Instead the hormones start out at almost nothing (which is no surprise), and then they slowly rise to adult levels, at which point puberty ends. As far as I can tell, the hormone levels shown for tanner stage 5 are just normal adult hormone levels, except that FSH seems to be high. In other words, recreating puberty is like unbaking a cake. Clearly my plan to imitate puberty is a dead end.

[AbiDrew85]

Huh. Well that's poop. I still think that higher than normal hormone levels are the key, even if it's always been a falsehood that they were higher in puberty... I also do think there has to be a point of diminished returns or even possibly reversal if you somehow manage to shut off your production.