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31-07-2013, 16:35
(31-07-2013, 16:10)ab101bab Wrote: http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/245774/
That's awful. Makes me wonder what the long term effects are from what I'm taking... hmmmm
31-07-2013, 17:32
(This post was last modified: 31-07-2013, 17:42 by onesexybitch.)
(31-07-2013, 16:35)tinytots Wrote:(31-07-2013, 16:10)ab101bab Wrote: http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/245774/
That's awful. Makes me wonder what the long term effects are from what I'm taking... hmmmm
If he removed the poisons (toxins ) first he could have enjoyed the beneficial aspects of the plant ( Saw palmetto ) and avoided its harmful ones.
Because of his ignorance and believing that natural plants were without harmful side effects he will live out the rest of his life in pain and misery- you can't unscramble an egg!
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i will tell everyone how to remove the toxins from any plant before consuming it. your plant of choice can be safe to consume.
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Coffee beans and tea leaves are as toxic as hell, and if eaten those toxins will build up in our body's over time causing a lot of mental and physical distress and eventually death.
animals won't eat them.
Our ancestors learned that if they used boiling water to separate the poisons from the beneficial part of the (tea & coffee plant ) plant, they could enjoy the beneficial ones ( caffeine )
All of the plants consumed on this site are poisonous!
And if your plant of choice was dried ground and put in -say a coffee machine. the liquid would be safe for you to drink, in large quantifies without any harmful side-effects.
capsules could be opened and the powder put in the coffee filter.
general guidelines are 1 level tablespoon ( 2.5 grams ) to one cup of water taken every 6 hours.
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All life on this planet must kill and eat, another form of life to survive.
Most life forms have evolve , protection from being killed and eaten.
plants have developed poisons- so if and animal was to eat it first it would taste bitter, next it would make the animal sick causing the animal to develop a taste aversion for the taste of that plant.
if the animal continued to consume the plant - non water soluble toxins would build up in the animals body, headaches, weak, sick eventually causing death.
31-07-2013, 23:52
onesexybitch... no... just... omg no.
What happened to that dude is unfortunate. Unfortunately it is also his fault. But NOT because of any toxins in the saw palmetto berries. Seriously. Do some research yourself!
If that guy had talked to me, someone who is VERY well studied on the various anti-androgens and androgenic problems in general, I coulda told him NOT TO TAKE SAW PALMETTO!
It was the LAST thing he needed. Finasteride would have done the SAME EXACT THING TOO! What he SHOULD have done was take spearmint. Lots of it. I'm talking 2 to 5 grams a day. His problem wasn't excess DHT, or even excess T, it was excess FREE T. Which is what spearmint is for.
Also. You're totally wrong that everything we take here has any toxicity. Some of it does. Some stuff that SOME people take is extremely toxic and I honestly try to warn people off when I notice it, there's always a non-toxic alternative. ALWAYS.
Some of the stuff we use are actually known super-foods, GRAS to a point you'd make yourself sick even trying to eat that much.
What happened to that dude is unfortunate. Unfortunately it is also his fault. But NOT because of any toxins in the saw palmetto berries. Seriously. Do some research yourself!
If that guy had talked to me, someone who is VERY well studied on the various anti-androgens and androgenic problems in general, I coulda told him NOT TO TAKE SAW PALMETTO!
It was the LAST thing he needed. Finasteride would have done the SAME EXACT THING TOO! What he SHOULD have done was take spearmint. Lots of it. I'm talking 2 to 5 grams a day. His problem wasn't excess DHT, or even excess T, it was excess FREE T. Which is what spearmint is for.
Also. You're totally wrong that everything we take here has any toxicity. Some of it does. Some stuff that SOME people take is extremely toxic and I honestly try to warn people off when I notice it, there's always a non-toxic alternative. ALWAYS.
Some of the stuff we use are actually known super-foods, GRAS to a point you'd make yourself sick even trying to eat that much.
01-08-2013, 00:05
(This post was last modified: 01-08-2013, 00:13 by onesexybitch.)
(31-07-2013, 23:52)AbiDrew85 Wrote: onesexybitch... no... just... omg no.--------------------------------------------------------
What happened to that dude is unfortunate. Unfortunately it is also his fault. But NOT because of any toxins in the saw palmetto berries. Seriously. Do some research yourself!
If that guy had talked to me, someone who is VERY well studied on the various anti-androgens and androgenic problems in general, I coulda told him NOT TO TAKE SAW PALMETTO!
It was the LAST thing he needed. Finasteride would have done the SAME EXACT THING TOO! What he SHOULD have done was take spearmint. Lots of it. I'm talking 2 to 5 grams a day. His problem wasn't excess DHT, or even excess T, it was excess FREE T. Which is what spearmint is for.
Also. You're totally wrong that everything we take here has any toxicity. Some of it does. Some stuff that SOME people take is extremely toxic and I honestly try to warn people off when I notice it, there's always a non-toxic alternative. ALWAYS.
Some of the stuff we use are actually known super-foods, GRAS to a point you'd make yourself sick even trying to eat that much.
This is a discussion group, and each one of us has their opinion- And i am always ready to add mine.
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If someone wants to destroy their body and their wallet,, just have them follow this-
-Abi Drew's plan: http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=12888&pid=73468#pid73468
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01-08-2013, 00:56
LOL. "Opinion" that's what you think hours and hours and days and weeks of research amounts to.
I'm not destroying my body. Though yes, I definitely wouldn't suggest much of what I do to just anyone. Or even most everyone. Maybe SOMEBODY. But that'd be surprising even to me.
Actually since figuring out that I have a likely yeast problem - which I'd likely been living with and just not healthy enough otherwise to notice - I've now FINALLY got my lethargy and sleep problems and weird bowel movements under control by adding probiotics. I need a LOT more probiotics than what I'm currently taking, but I at least have things to a more tolerable point.
Taking enough probiotics for my needs would just break a bank I don't currently even have... But I need to be able to be able to be productive enough to get a job after I graduate, which I need to be productive enough to pull off, in order to start MAKING a bank to break.
I do realize that at least SOME of my tiredness is also from my severe cutting - I'm intentionally cutting past my healthy weight - but that's necessary in order to completely burn off all my male weight distribution before putting on an entirely new female distribution. I don't just want to ADD a "somewhat" feminine distribution on top of a male one. I want to completely replace what's there. Which is something I honestly wouldn't suggest to basically anyone. Anyone who actually should do it would have already worked out their own strategy through their own immense research and wouldn't need my advice.
Oh. And actually if you actually went through everything in my plan you'd realize it's actually not really that expensive once you tally it all up. Costs less than many of the others out there thanks to the cyclic nature of my dosages. And I'm trying for a complete feminization from a very male starting point.
You, OTOH... Definitely have a very blatantly obvious opinion. And seem unwilling to listen to any kind of debunking. Enjoy your private little world. No one else lives there. I imagine you probably prefer it that way though.
... Though actually... No, never mind. One capsule a day no matter what additives they might have put it really shouldn't cause problems. If he was taking crazier doses and actually AIMING to be feminized, his brand choice though could have had an impact. Some brands have some really intriguing additives if you did some research...
But once again. For your reading pleasure: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23063633
Even just the synopsis itself provides all the facts you need... But if you were to purchase the more complete article, you'd find that the berries of the saw palmetto plant are considered GRAS to a ridiculous point. I mean. Forget extracts. They've already removed anything that potentially COULD be toxic, but whole, raw berries. You'd have to eat yourself sick. Seriously. It's even more ridiculous than the arsenic in apples making anyone sick. You'd eat yourself sick long before the arsenic got you. You'd eat yourself sick even LONGER before anything in saw palmetto berries could get you.
His problem was very simple: right solution to the wrong problem. In a nutshell. NEEDS MOAR RESEARCH.
I'm not destroying my body. Though yes, I definitely wouldn't suggest much of what I do to just anyone. Or even most everyone. Maybe SOMEBODY. But that'd be surprising even to me.
Actually since figuring out that I have a likely yeast problem - which I'd likely been living with and just not healthy enough otherwise to notice - I've now FINALLY got my lethargy and sleep problems and weird bowel movements under control by adding probiotics. I need a LOT more probiotics than what I'm currently taking, but I at least have things to a more tolerable point.
Taking enough probiotics for my needs would just break a bank I don't currently even have... But I need to be able to be able to be productive enough to get a job after I graduate, which I need to be productive enough to pull off, in order to start MAKING a bank to break.
I do realize that at least SOME of my tiredness is also from my severe cutting - I'm intentionally cutting past my healthy weight - but that's necessary in order to completely burn off all my male weight distribution before putting on an entirely new female distribution. I don't just want to ADD a "somewhat" feminine distribution on top of a male one. I want to completely replace what's there. Which is something I honestly wouldn't suggest to basically anyone. Anyone who actually should do it would have already worked out their own strategy through their own immense research and wouldn't need my advice.
Oh. And actually if you actually went through everything in my plan you'd realize it's actually not really that expensive once you tally it all up. Costs less than many of the others out there thanks to the cyclic nature of my dosages. And I'm trying for a complete feminization from a very male starting point.
You, OTOH... Definitely have a very blatantly obvious opinion. And seem unwilling to listen to any kind of debunking. Enjoy your private little world. No one else lives there. I imagine you probably prefer it that way though.
... Though actually... No, never mind. One capsule a day no matter what additives they might have put it really shouldn't cause problems. If he was taking crazier doses and actually AIMING to be feminized, his brand choice though could have had an impact. Some brands have some really intriguing additives if you did some research...
But once again. For your reading pleasure: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23063633
Even just the synopsis itself provides all the facts you need... But if you were to purchase the more complete article, you'd find that the berries of the saw palmetto plant are considered GRAS to a ridiculous point. I mean. Forget extracts. They've already removed anything that potentially COULD be toxic, but whole, raw berries. You'd have to eat yourself sick. Seriously. It's even more ridiculous than the arsenic in apples making anyone sick. You'd eat yourself sick long before the arsenic got you. You'd eat yourself sick even LONGER before anything in saw palmetto berries could get you.
His problem was very simple: right solution to the wrong problem. In a nutshell. NEEDS MOAR RESEARCH.
01-08-2013, 20:06
(31-07-2013, 16:10)ab101bab Wrote: http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/245774/
Sheesh...I have been trying to research & come up with some kind of NBE program, but I'm getting apprehensive (or paranoid!) to do anything but exercise, and maybe a little massage...
02-08-2013, 00:19
That is a terrible story and i hope he found a cure for it by now
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