[jenniferjca]

Hi everyone. Allow me to tell you a bit about myself. I am 42 and a mum of 2 kids (10 and 5). I started taking these on a daily basis:

1) First thing in the morning:
- hops (http://www.rakuten.com.my/shop/ruyionlin...uct/1016/)
- Zell V Sheep placenta (http://zell-v.com/shop/product/zell-v-pl...placenta/)

2) Before lunch Breast supplements (http://www.watsons.com.sg/c/Bust-Blossom...BP_39248).

3) Lunch time multivitamins (Centrium brand) and omega 3 fish oil (Holland and Barrett)

4) 4 hours after my lunch I will take hydrolised collagen (Holland and Barrett)

5) Before I sleep:
- hops (http://www.rakuten.com.my/shop/ruyionlin...uct/1016/)
- Zell V phytogreen (http://zell-v.com/shop/product/zell-v-phyto-green/)

Massage and noogleberry: I only do it in between noogling using the 10 mins hold 5 mins release and massage method (just started this routine April 01. I started noogling since February 01 with 1 hour hold and felt my breast became smaller. I hope the 10:5 mins method works better). I do not swell after each pump session and wondering if it even works. But when I pump and hold, I do get red little dots all over my breasts and my breast turns red then pale towards the last few mins of 10 mins hold. My pressure gauge is at -2.5 each time I pump as I cant pump to -5 since the domes cuts into my armpit skin. I do not get any tingling feeling at all throughout the day since I started taking the supplements, massaging and noggling. I massage using flaxseed oil (from health supplement capsules since I cant locate a good flaxseed oil) and aromatherapy oil (rose hip with fenugreek or almond sweet oil with fenugreek oil). I use the flaxseed oil before and in between noogling and the aromatherapy oil after I am done with the one hour noogling since I wanted to heal the ring area that cuts into my skin. I also noticed that when I massage my breast (light pressure), my breast becomes smaller (I took a before and after to compare).

I am not keen to use PM or BO and add anymore supplements into my routine. So I wonder if you or anyone have success with just minimal supplements or no supplements or no massage at all but with just noogling.

Have you heard of anyone who massages and ended up making their breast smaller?

Thank you very much for your time.


Start of NBE measurement (January 01, 2015):
Top bust: 34 inches
Bust: 35 inches
Under bust: 31 inches
Waist: 30 inches
Weight: 52kg

Goal:
Top bust: 36 inches
Bust: 38 inches
Under bust: 30 inches
Waist: 26 inches
Weight: 51kg

[EllaC]

Hi, welcome.
Why are you taking sheep placenta? (just curious its role in breast growth)
Weird how pumping make them smaller, ive never done well with nooging either.
Thanks.

[jenniferjca]

Hi ELLACRAIG

Thanks for replying. I am game for all sorts of questions, no worries.

I started with all of the listed supplements in January 2015 except for the sheep placenta and phytogreen which I just started mid March 2015. It is mainly a health supplement since I am trying to phase out my multivitamin (Centrium) by mid April (I tend to overstock vitamins and had to clear them). I think the sheep placenta and phytogreen have some collagen and amino acids. Sorry to have confused you, I am at the phase of purging out the multivitamin and hyrolysed collagen with the sheep placenta. If the health benefit does not prevail at the end of 3 months then I will think of other options.

My bad for misleading you into concluding that pumping was the culprit. It was actually massaging that causes my breast to shrink. I could see how the convex of my breast (side profile) shrinks (very visible to the eye) right after each massage (even a 5 mins massage makes my breasts shrink). Are you more successful with massages?

[EllaC]

Hi ELLACRAIG

Thanks for replying. I am game for all sorts of questions, no worries.

I started with all of the listed supplements in January 2015 except for the sheep placenta and phytogreen which I just started mid March 2015. It is mainly a health supplement since I am trying to phase out my multivitamin (Centrium) by mid April (I tend to overstock vitamins and had to clear them). I think the sheep placenta and phytogreen have some collagen and amino acids. Sorry to have confused you, I am at the phase of purging out the multivitamin and hyrolysed collagen with the sheep placenta. If the health benefit does not prevail at the end of 3 months then I will think of other options.

My bad for misleading you into concluding that pumping was the culprit. It was actually massaging that causes my breast to shrink. I could see how the convex of my breast (side profile) shrinks (very visible to the eye) right after each massage (even a 5 mins massage makes my breasts shrink). Are you more successful with massages?

Hi.
Well massaging or noogling has never really done anything for me, could be a circulation issue for me. Always had shocking circulation.
Yes I was given a thymus extract to help with my thyroid a while back and was a little reluctant but then I see sheep placenta recently touted as good for you and immune function etc so piqued my interest.
Yes I hear you, im trying to phase out pills too, would be great if food supplied all we needed these days.
I agree, taking pills and hormone related things is a little scary esp if you have cancer running in your family.
After having kids my only advise with the breast pump would be to tape your nipples down, for me personally my nipples were damaged by breastfeeding so that elasticity isn't there as it was pre b'feeding.
Your boobs do look very nice btw.
They look a good size

[hannah]

Hi there and welcome!
I had to respond on the part where your breast look smaller after massage. I experience the same, especially when my BF touches them, I can see and feel them becoming smaller..
I dont know what it is, but noticed it was temporary. It do occurs after each touch/massage. It is weird though.. I think it has to do with a breast that is relaxed(bigger breast) and after touching/massaging some tention in the mammary tissue occurs which is making it more cropped and tight which make your breasts temporary smaller.. Just a thought..

[jenniferjca]

ELLACRAIG

Thank you for your tips. Yeah.... breast feeding did take a toll on us. Hopefully we are able to defy gravity as much as possible.

[jenniferjca]

hannah14

I think your explanation does make sense. I am baffled since many had success with massages and mine ended up shrinking... ha...ha.... Hence, I dont massage much... just less than 2 mins after each noggling.