[SaggyBoobsBeGone]

HEllo all I need help please im feeling so alone and lost! I am very fat, about 100 pounds over weight and I've been losing a few pounds a week my problem is that I finally got my life getting together.. I went thru major depression where I just slept all day ate and watched youtube vids in my bed . it was horrible for months that happened I gained many pounds, so now im 19 years old and I fell in love, we are doing LDR long distance relationship currently, as im loosing weight my breasta are getting really saggy.. like they were always saggy for being large they are an E cup I think becus I know they are much bigger than ddd's but that's probly becus they are so saggy.. its not fair, my teens I was overweight with saggy big areola boobs, now when I finally get on tract and lose weight im going to be left with more lose skin , saggy breasts, and huge areolas! it makes me so fricken depressed I just cry sometimes and my stresss levels are so high this past year I keep getting tension headaches every morning and evening its horrible. they have stretch marks all over them, which is not that bad I can live wih stretch marks I have them all over my body but its w.e ill deal with it but I just cant deal with these 2 huge saggy blobs of fat on my chest.. please help me

I've been noogling with the XL DOMES for a month or 2 and I fill them up, I guess I never really fit them cus I never had swelling and it never hurt to pump it felt normal. so I bought 1 XXL and it hurts a lot to put on my chest.. and it only pulls the sides of my skin the top of my breasts does not get sucked up it just lays there all deflated while the base of my breast gets pulled.

im taking fenugreek, MACA, iodine, Msm, saw palmetto, and a soy milk and soy protein drink every morning , its been 2 weeks and im seeing no result I have high test lvls becus of me being overweight I have a lot of androgens, and my ESTROGEN it says total was 74 I don't get my period..for 2 years now? the only time I get spotting is if I lose weight within a week so if I lose say 5 pounds next week ill probly get maybe 1 day of spotting or half a day so I know its becus of my weight. I have facial hair which I hate so im taking saw palm to get rid of It but its not really helping :C Anyways please I need advice and help im massaging, noogling, vitamins, Im not seeing any results its horrible the more weight I lose the more empy and saggy and long they become im only 19 ! anybody with experience PLEASE HELP ME I feel so desperate and sad all the time like no matter what I do ill never be happy with my body becus everytime I look at my chest its disgusting to me me.. and im sure to others who saw them would probly be like wow she has 90 year old big grandma tittys that have big ass areolas on them -.- plus I have flat nipples so it looks even worse.. and my Bf has never been with another girl before but he obviously watches porn with me sometimes and he knows I have big breasts and he always assumes they are so cute.. but little does he know they are saggy , empty, stretched, and huge areolas . and he even told me he would not mind if I had small breasts he likes them small anyways im like OH GREAT LOL good thing mine are super saggy ! im doing this for me but its just that he always does things to please me, and make me happy I just wished the one thing I've always wanted was perky breasts evn if they were small. help me please I also don't want to take BO becus it is cow's ovaries and im eating vegan.. and I really don't want to put my money into animal cruelty. please women help me :c I have no1 to talk about this to.

[EllaC]

Have you seen a natural doctor (naturopaths or herbalists) In our country.
Your soo young so taking a few different herbs from nothing might confuse your body.
If you can afford it id see a nutritionist and a naturopath to help with your hormone.
Maybe try chest lifting exercises, push ups etc to try firm muscles and breasts but I understand what you said about how they look.
Maybe collagen based foods, see the diet threads on here and the massage threads for ideas on exercises. Always use moistursing oil when noogling and noogle gently. You might increase risk of stretchmarks if you have them already.
Good protein powder if you haven't mentioned that already..
Aloe vera massage
Google "isosensuals volufiline cream"
Good B vitamin and omega 3's to try get your hormones working again.
That's all I can think of for now. Maybe virgin coconut oil (teaspoon to start) promotes weight loss and hormones etc.

[SaggyBoobsBeGone]

Have you seen a natural doctor (naturopaths or herbalists) In our country.
Your soo young so taking a few different herbs from nothing might confuse your body.
If you can afford it id see a nutritionist and a naturopath to help with your hormone.
Maybe try chest lifting exercises, push ups etc to try firm muscles and breasts but I understand what you said about how they look.
Maybe collagen based foods, see the diet threads on here and the massage threads for ideas on exercises. Always use moistursing oil when noogling and noogle gently. You might increase risk of stretchmarks if you have them already.
Good protein powder if you haven't mentioned that already..
Aloe vera massage
Google "isosensuals volufiline cream"
Good B vitamin and omega 3's to try get your hormones working again.
That's all I can think of for now. Maybe virgin coconut oil (teaspoon to start) promotes weight loss and hormones etc.

TY so much yes I did and I got my blood work down , I have high test and also high cholest but I told her that I don't eat animal products anymore so I don't really consume any cholest and she told me its becus im very overweight that my body has a lot of fat in it = why my cholest is high so im eating salads, soy proteins shakes, vegtable soups, im taking a multi vitamin with msm, fenugreek, maca, iodine I was super vitamin d defi, cus I never went outside due to the depression I am using coconut oil to massage and noogling with the XL cups on both boobs then I take the XXL and put that on the one boob but its super uncomfortable and it does not leave any swelling like the XL does so that's weird.. I figured if I was able to actually pump my boob farther it would leave more swelling haha ? I guess not for right now ! but thanks for the reply ^_^ im going to speak to my doc and get a full hormone level tests done on my prog, prolac and estro again next week or the week after that .

[surferjoe2007]

Did you post in the wrong section?

I don't think the typical herbs for even larger breasts are what you want long term. Fenugreek, maca and most others used for NBE aren't the best option long term. In the short term shrinking causes deflation and sagging, but eventually the skin catches up and less size makes them perkier.

Instead I think you should do:
320 mg saw palmetto extract. To lower DHT testosterone.
2 cups of spearmint tea made from 2 teaspoons dry spearmint leaves each, or 4 tea bags each. To lower other testosterone.
3,000 mg MSM. For lift. Increases elasticity.
At least a little fresh fruit twice a day. Helps the MSM. Consistency is more important than the amount.
Chest presses and chess flies with dumbbells or etc. Google how. More weight is better than more reps. Also for lift. Pulls upward.
Any kind of moisturizer or aloe or etc.

Once your hormone test comes back that will be helpful to see if your progesterone is low relative to your estrogen or not. If it is you can use progesterone cream, which is super strong, or 500 mg vitex, which is very mild.

[SaggyBoobsBeGone]

Did you post in the wrong section?

I don't think the typical herbs for even larger breasts are what you want long term. Fenugreek, maca and most others used for NBE aren't the best option long term. In the short term shrinking causes deflation and sagging, but eventually the skin catches up and less size makes them perkier.

Instead I think you should do:
320 mg saw palmetto extract. To lower DHT testosterone.
2 cups of spearmint tea made from 2 teaspoons dry spearmint leaves each, or 4 tea bags each. To lower other testosterone.
3,000 mg MSM. For lift. Increases elasticity.
At least a little fresh fruit twice a day. Helps the MSM. Consistency is more important than the amount.
Chest presses and chess flies with dumbbells or etc. Google how. More weight is better than more reps. Also for lift. Pulls upward.
Any kind of moisturizer or aloe or etc.

Once your hormone test comes back that will be helpful to see if your progesterone is low relative to your estrogen or not. If it is you can use progesterone cream, which is super strong, or 500 mg vitex, which is very mild.

ty ^_^ im taking maca and fenu so that as I lose weight I wont lose a lot of breasts im trying to regain some of the size I already lost becus they made them even more saggy then they were so since I have a lot to lose I was hoping to pump + herbs and not have a flat chested AAA with devastating sagginess im also taking the maca to balance my hormones and when I go to the docor what do I ask for exactly.. becus last time I went I asked for my hormones to be checked and she did only test and estrogen my estrogen said total estrogens 74 and she has still not gotten back to me to tell me if its low or safe range so im drinking soy milk plus a soy protein powder and vitamin drink with 1 or 2 bananas in the morning for a big liquid breakfast and I take my vitamins and herbs then to. I've been massaging for months now and im not seeing any of the lose skin tighten up :L ALSO QUESTIOON : could I take 2 pills of 320mg of saw palmetto to lower it faster or will that effect my estro level ? cus im having facial hair and its horrible.. I just want it to go away . and where could I post this to get moe replys in the right section , im new to this and I just wanted help I thought this was where I should post it

[surferjoe2007]

Did you post in the wrong section?

I don't think the typical herbs for even larger breasts are what you want long term. Fenugreek, maca and most others used for NBE aren't the best option long term. In the short term shrinking causes deflation and sagging, but eventually the skin catches up and less size makes them perkier.

Instead I think you should do:
320 mg saw palmetto extract. To lower DHT testosterone.
2 cups of spearmint tea made from 2 teaspoons dry spearmint leaves each, or 4 tea bags each. To lower other testosterone.
3,000 mg MSM. For lift. Increases elasticity.
At least a little fresh fruit twice a day. Helps the MSM. Consistency is more important than the amount.
Chest presses and chess flies with dumbbells or etc. Google how. More weight is better than more reps. Also for lift. Pulls upward.
Any kind of moisturizer or aloe or etc.

Once your hormone test comes back that will be helpful to see if your progesterone is low relative to your estrogen or not. If it is you can use progesterone cream, which is super strong, or 500 mg vitex, which is very mild.

ty ^_^ im taking maca and fenu so that as I lose weight I wont lose a lot of breasts im trying to regain some of the size I already lost becus they made them even more saggy then they were so since I have a lot to lose I was hoping to pump + herbs and not have a flat chested AAA with devastating sagginess im also taking the maca to balance my hormones and when I go to the docor what do I ask for exactly.. becus last time I went I asked for my hormones to be checked and she did only test and estrogen my estrogen said total estrogens 74 and she has still not gotten back to me to tell me if its low or safe range so im drinking soy milk plus a soy protein powder and vitamin drink with 1 or 2 bananas in the morning for a big liquid breakfast and I take my vitamins and herbs then to. I've been massaging for months now and im not seeing any of the lose skin tighten up :L ALSO QUESTIOON : could I take 2 pills of 320mg of saw palmetto to lower it faster or will that effect my estro level ? cus im having facial hair and its horrible.. I just want it to go away . and where could I post this to get moe replys in the right section , im new to this and I just wanted help I thought this was where I should post it

Saw palmetto extract only blocks the formation of DHT testosterone from regular testosterone so I don't think more will lower it much faster. But it won't hurt either. There's a big safety study done with 3 x 320 mg and most everyone was fine. Though it was done on men I think. That's why instead you add spearmint on top of the saw palmetto extract to reduce regular testosterone too. If you want to try 2 x 320 mg saw palmetto extract then go for it but I don't know if it will make much difference.

If you eat lots of whole grains or bran, making it the largest part of your diet, it provides your body what it needs to balance out hormones on its own.

You don't need very much protein unless you're trying to be an olympic bodybuilder. Your body converts all of the extra into sugar. The effects of this are absolutely identical in every way to the sugar you get from starches or fats. Including the effects on insulin. Nearly everyone already gets plenty from their diet, so a powder is only empty calories with no benefit whatsoever. I'm guessing the obsession over protein is pushed by the overgrown meat and dairy industries.

[EllaC]

Did you post in the wrong section?

I don't think the typical herbs for even larger breasts are what you want long term. Fenugreek, maca and most others used for NBE aren't the best option long term. In the short term shrinking causes deflation and sagging, but eventually the skin catches up and less size makes them perkier.

Instead I think you should do:
320 mg saw palmetto extract. To lower DHT testosterone.
2 cups of spearmint tea made from 2 teaspoons dry spearmint leaves each, or 4 tea bags each. To lower other testosterone.
3,000 mg MSM. For lift. Increases elasticity.
At least a little fresh fruit twice a day. Helps the MSM. Consistency is more important than the amount.
Chest presses and chess flies with dumbbells or etc. Google how. More weight is better than more reps. Also for lift. Pulls upward.
Any kind of moisturizer or aloe or etc.

Once your hormone test comes back that will be helpful to see if your progesterone is low relative to your estrogen or not. If it is you can use progesterone cream, which is super strong, or 500 mg vitex, which is very mild.

ty ^_^ im taking maca and fenu so that as I lose weight I wont lose a lot of breasts im trying to regain some of the size I already lost becus they made them even more saggy then they were so since I have a lot to lose I was hoping to pump + herbs and not have a flat chested AAA with devastating sagginess im also taking the maca to balance my hormones and when I go to the docor what do I ask for exactly.. becus last time I went I asked for my hormones to be checked and she did only test and estrogen my estrogen said total estrogens 74 and she has still not gotten back to me to tell me if its low or safe range so im drinking soy milk plus a soy protein powder and vitamin drink with 1 or 2 bananas in the morning for a big liquid breakfast and I take my vitamins and herbs then to. I've been massaging for months now and im not seeing any of the lose skin tighten up :L ALSO QUESTIOON : could I take 2 pills of 320mg of saw palmetto to lower it faster or will that effect my estro level ? cus im having facial hair and its horrible.. I just want it to go away . and where could I post this to get moe replys in the right section , im new to this and I just wanted help I thought this was where I should post it

Saw palmetto extract only blocks the formation of DHT testosterone from regular testosterone so I don't think more will lower it much faster. But it won't hurt either. There's a big safety study done with 3 x 320 mg and most everyone was fine. Though it was done on men I think. That's why instead you add spearmint on top of the saw palmetto extract to reduce regular testosterone too. If you want to try 2 x 320 mg saw palmetto extract then go for it but I don't know if it will make much difference.

If you eat lots of whole grains or bran, making it the largest part of your diet, it provides your body what it needs to balance out hormones on its own.

You don't need very much protein unless you're trying to be an olympic bodybuilder. Your body converts all of the extra into sugar. The effects of this are absolutely identical in every way to the sugar you get from starches or fats. Including the effects on insulin. Nearly everyone already gets plenty from their diet, so a powder is only empty calories with no benefit whatsoever. I'm guessing the obsession over protein is pushed by the overgrown meat and dairy industries.

Surfer in your studies have you found that saw palmetto is also used as an appetite stimulant suitable for convalescence ? In which case it might cause weight gain? (For which I'd be totally grateful btw?) I've also learnt (googled) saw palmetto is an anti estrogen so what is the benefit of people taking both FG and SP at the same time ? Or do you have to cycle it?
Why would you tKe FG to raise hormones only to kill estrogens with saw palmetto? All this confuses me..

[SaggyBoobsBeGone]

Did you post in the wrong section?

I don't think the typical herbs for even larger breasts are what you want long term. Fenugreek, maca and most others used for NBE aren't the best option long term. In the short term shrinking causes deflation and sagging, but eventually the skin catches up and less size makes them perkier.

Instead I think you should do:
320 mg saw palmetto extract. To lower DHT testosterone.
2 cups of spearmint tea made from 2 teaspoons dry spearmint leaves each, or 4 tea bags each. To lower other testosterone.
3,000 mg MSM. For lift. Increases elasticity.
At least a little fresh fruit twice a day. Helps the MSM. Consistency is more important than the amount.
Chest presses and chess flies with dumbbells or etc. Google how. More weight is better than more reps. Also for lift. Pulls upward.
Any kind of moisturizer or aloe or etc.

Once your hormone test comes back that will be helpful to see if your progesterone is low relative to your estrogen or not. If it is you can use progesterone cream, which is super strong, or 500 mg vitex, which is very mild.

ty ^_^ im taking maca and fenu so that as I lose weight I wont lose a lot of breasts im trying to regain some of the size I already lost becus they made them even more saggy then they were so since I have a lot to lose I was hoping to pump + herbs and not have a flat chested AAA with devastating sagginess im also taking the maca to balance my hormones and when I go to the docor what do I ask for exactly.. becus last time I went I asked for my hormones to be checked and she did only test and estrogen my estrogen said total estrogens 74 and she has still not gotten back to me to tell me if its low or safe range so im drinking soy milk plus a soy protein powder and vitamin drink with 1 or 2 bananas in the morning for a big liquid breakfast and I take my vitamins and herbs then to. I've been massaging for months now and im not seeing any of the lose skin tighten up :L ALSO QUESTIOON : could I take 2 pills of 320mg of saw palmetto to lower it faster or will that effect my estro level ? cus im having facial hair and its horrible.. I just want it to go away . and where could I post this to get moe replys in the right section , im new to this and I just wanted help I thought this was where I should post it

Saw palmetto extract only blocks the formation of DHT testosterone from regular testosterone so I don't think more will lower it much faster. But it won't hurt either. There's a big safety study done with 3 x 320 mg and most everyone was fine. Though it was done on men I think. That's why instead you add spearmint on top of the saw palmetto extract to reduce regular testosterone too. If you want to try 2 x 320 mg saw palmetto extract then go for it but I don't know if it will make much difference.

If you eat lots of whole grains or bran, making it the largest part of your diet, it provides your body what it needs to balance out hormones on its own.

You don't need very much protein unless you're trying to be an olympic bodybuilder. Your body converts all of the extra into sugar. The effects of this are absolutely identical in every way to the sugar you get from starches or fats. Including the effects on insulin. Nearly everyone already gets plenty from their diet, so a powder is only empty calories with no benefit whatsoever. I'm guessing the obsession over protein is pushed by the overgrown meat and dairy industries.

yeah thanks its a vegan soy protein powder and has a bunch of vitamins its called spirutein its really good its like a multi vitamin plus protein, and I use it as a meal replacement. I only started taking it becus I wanted the soy XD but it has 100% daily vits so its cool to !

[SaggyBoobsBeGone]

Did you post in the wrong section?

I don't think the typical herbs for even larger breasts are what you want long term. Fenugreek, maca and most others used for NBE aren't the best option long term. In the short term shrinking causes deflation and sagging, but eventually the skin catches up and less size makes them perkier.

Instead I think you should do:
320 mg saw palmetto extract. To lower DHT testosterone.
2 cups of spearmint tea made from 2 teaspoons dry spearmint leaves each, or 4 tea bags each. To lower other testosterone.
3,000 mg MSM. For lift. Increases elasticity.
At least a little fresh fruit twice a day. Helps the MSM. Consistency is more important than the amount.
Chest presses and chess flies with dumbbells or etc. Google how. More weight is better than more reps. Also for lift. Pulls upward.
Any kind of moisturizer or aloe or etc.

Once your hormone test comes back that will be helpful to see if your progesterone is low relative to your estrogen or not. If it is you can use progesterone cream, which is super strong, or 500 mg vitex, which is very mild.

ty ^_^ im taking maca and fenu so that as I lose weight I wont lose a lot of breasts im trying to regain some of the size I already lost becus they made them even more saggy then they were so since I have a lot to lose I was hoping to pump + herbs and not have a flat chested AAA with devastating sagginess im also taking the maca to balance my hormones and when I go to the docor what do I ask for exactly.. becus last time I went I asked for my hormones to be checked and she did only test and estrogen my estrogen said total estrogens 74 and she has still not gotten back to me to tell me if its low or safe range so im drinking soy milk plus a soy protein powder and vitamin drink with 1 or 2 bananas in the morning for a big liquid breakfast and I take my vitamins and herbs then to. I've been massaging for months now and im not seeing any of the lose skin tighten up :L ALSO QUESTIOON : could I take 2 pills of 320mg of saw palmetto to lower it faster or will that effect my estro level ? cus im having facial hair and its horrible.. I just want it to go away . and where could I post this to get moe replys in the right section , im new to this and I just wanted help I thought this was where I should post it

Saw palmetto extract only blocks the formation of DHT testosterone from regular testosterone so I don't think more will lower it much faster. But it won't hurt either. There's a big safety study done with 3 x 320 mg and most everyone was fine. Though it was done on men I think. That's why instead you add spearmint on top of the saw palmetto extract to reduce regular testosterone too. If you want to try 2 x 320 mg saw palmetto extract then go for it but I don't know if it will make much difference.

If you eat lots of whole grains or bran, making it the largest part of your diet, it provides your body what it needs to balance out hormones on its own.

You don't need very much protein unless you're trying to be an olympic bodybuilder. Your body converts all of the extra into sugar. The effects of this are absolutely identical in every way to the sugar you get from starches or fats. Including the effects on insulin. Nearly everyone already gets plenty from their diet, so a powder is only empty calories with no benefit whatsoever. I'm guessing the obsession over protein is pushed by the overgrown meat and dairy industries.

Surfer in your studies have you found that saw palmetto is also used as an appetite stimulant suitable for convalescence ? In which case it might cause weight gain? (For which I'd be totally grateful btw?) I've also learnt (googled) saw palmetto is an anti estrogen so what is the benefit of people taking both FG and SP at the same time ? Or do you have to cycle it?
Why would you tKe FG to raise hormones only to kill estrogens with saw palmetto? All this confuses me..

me to I read that on the forums and was super confused so I started to take an extra fenugreek pill just incase and im only going to take 1 saw palm cus im already little low in estro.

[EllaC]

Did you post in the wrong section?

I don't think the typical herbs for even larger breasts are what you want long term. Fenugreek, maca and most others used for NBE aren't the best option long term. In the short term shrinking causes deflation and sagging, but eventually the skin catches up and less size makes them perkier.

Instead I think you should do:
320 mg saw palmetto extract. To lower DHT testosterone.
2 cups of spearmint tea made from 2 teaspoons dry spearmint leaves each, or 4 tea bags each. To lower other testosterone.
3,000 mg MSM. For lift. Increases elasticity.
At least a little fresh fruit twice a day. Helps the MSM. Consistency is more important than the amount.
Chest presses and chess flies with dumbbells or etc. Google how. More weight is better than more reps. Also for lift. Pulls upward.
Any kind of moisturizer or aloe or etc.

Once your hormone test comes back that will be helpful to see if your progesterone is low relative to your estrogen or not. If it is you can use progesterone cream, which is super strong, or 500 mg vitex, which is very mild.

ty ^_^ im taking maca and fenu so that as I lose weight I wont lose a lot of breasts im trying to regain some of the size I already lost becus they made them even more saggy then they were so since I have a lot to lose I was hoping to pump + herbs and not have a flat chested AAA with devastating sagginess im also taking the maca to balance my hormones and when I go to the docor what do I ask for exactly.. becus last time I went I asked for my hormones to be checked and she did only test and estrogen my estrogen said total estrogens 74 and she has still not gotten back to me to tell me if its low or safe range so im drinking soy milk plus a soy protein powder and vitamin drink with 1 or 2 bananas in the morning for a big liquid breakfast and I take my vitamins and herbs then to. I've been massaging for months now and im not seeing any of the lose skin tighten up :L ALSO QUESTIOON : could I take 2 pills of 320mg of saw palmetto to lower it faster or will that effect my estro level ? cus im having facial hair and its horrible.. I just want it to go away . and where could I post this to get moe replys in the right section , im new to this and I just wanted help I thought this was where I should post it

Saw palmetto extract only blocks the formation of DHT testosterone from regular testosterone so I don't think more will lower it much faster. But it won't hurt either. There's a big safety study done with 3 x 320 mg and most everyone was fine. Though it was done on men I think. That's why instead you add spearmint on top of the saw palmetto extract to reduce regular testosterone too. If you want to try 2 x 320 mg saw palmetto extract then go for it but I don't know if it will make much difference.

If you eat lots of whole grains or bran, making it the largest part of your diet, it provides your body what it needs to balance out hormones on its own.

You don't need very much protein unless you're trying to be an olympic bodybuilder. Your body converts all of the extra into sugar. The effects of this are absolutely identical in every way to the sugar you get from starches or fats. Including the effects on insulin. Nearly everyone already gets plenty from their diet, so a powder is only empty calories with no benefit whatsoever. I'm guessing the obsession over protein is pushed by the overgrown meat and dairy industries.

Surfer in your studies have you found that saw palmetto is also used as an appetite stimulant suitable for convalescence ? In which case it might cause weight gain? (For which I'd be totally grateful btw?) I've also learnt (googled) saw palmetto is an anti estrogen so what is the benefit of people taking both FG and SP at the same time ? Or do you have to cycle it?
Why would you tKe FG to raise hormones only to kill estrogens with saw palmetto? All this confuses me..

me to I read that on the forums and was super confused so I started to take an extra fenugreek pill just incase and im only going to take 1 saw palm cus im already little low in estro.

Too much Sp will upset your tummy too (well not everyone) but I found even one 160mg of SP would instantly give me pimples. Then theres cellulite.. which might come in part with the increase in weight if it has that effect on you.