fengshui's D cup journey

***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 14:52

Hi Fengshui

You are my inspiration and thanks for your great help. I love soups very much, but I can't eat same thing all the time, I'll definitely take your advice, I will use the broth to make something else. Hopefully I will see some result by eating boobie food combined with firm massage everyday, I really can't wait.

Hope I will have some good news to report soon.

Babe
Remembered you've mentioned about using bras to redistribute the fat to your breasts on the thread, I was wondering are these bras help to redistribute after a period of time? Thanks
Sorry I forgot to drop the link, http://www.chicshaper.com/Default.asp?bhcp=1

Yes, I think it will help but it takes months to reshape, and you need to keep doing the "adjustment" many times a day to keep (scoop in) the fat into cups, eventually the fat will be reshaped. I have something similar to that, but it's not very comfortable, hard to wear it in summer time.
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kay

Unread postJun 16, 2008#86

i got hydrolized collagen and borage oil to start your program. but i was wondering do i have to add gelatin to that too, or is that covered in the collagen? also could i substitute the collagen pills out for a protein bar or tuna fish every now and then? thanks for your time!!!!
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Unread postJun 18, 2008#87

Thanks, kay. I only use natural/fresh foods for my programme, I don't have experience in collagen/gelatin pills or protein drinks, but it doesn't hurt to try. So here is just my 2 cents. Collagen should be good enough, you don't need to add gelatin, just take up to the amount allowed as the direction (I read somewhere says collagen works better with V-c and calcium?). About the protein bar, I don't know if it will be enough because some people use it to lose weight? (and we are trying to "gain weight" in our boobs), maybe you can try protein drinks? And tuna fish is good, not sure it's powerful enough, though. In my own experience, clams, oysters, mussels,shrimps work better. Once or twice a week should be very helpful, to save, just go to a chinese buffet and get your money's worth. :-)
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kay

Unread postJun 18, 2008#88

thank you sooo much! i really really appreciate your advice Smile

i am very envious of you and i hope to have similar results. thanks again!
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Unread postJun 19, 2008#89

I found these while looking for Thai Breast Massages. Is this method helpful? Can you understand what they are saying? I know the comments on the facebook site itself are rude, but their are always stupid people out there. Anyway I was just wondering if you or Tigerlily could translate, and if theses massages would actually increase breast size over time?

There are many other breast massage videos on that site too, but they seem rather questionable. Thanks for any help or input.

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Unread postJun 19, 2008#90

Here is other ones, are they any good for breast enhancement and what are they saying?

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***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 14:54

slimdownbaby

hey fengshui, what lotion did u use to masssage your boobs?

When I first started my programme in 05' I used baby oil (wash off afterwards), it worked well.
Now I am just experimenting and playing with stuff. Currently I apply a layer of natural blam first (contains borage oil, emu oil....) then use a boobie batter mixed of V-e, flaxseed oil, cocoa butter oil, and epo to do the massage, seems to work.
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Pumpkinniki

Unread postJun 24, 2008#95

What is tremella? I saw it listed in your OP. And what is it's purpose?

Also, I saw mention of "boobie no no's" Did I miss a list of good and/or bad foods?

I'm AA-A cup. Wanting a big B or small C.

Did your menstral cycle change any while you were doing these things?
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Unread postJun 24, 2008#96

I must have somehow skipped down when I was reading it the first time. I see your lists now. Thanx.

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Unread postJun 25, 2008#97

Some people call tremella white/snow fungus.
My menstral cycle has pretty much always been 28 days, it doesn't change because the programme.
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kay

Unread postJun 25, 2008#98

its me again. i just wanted to make sure that i am doing enough for the program. i am taking 6 hydrolized collagen pills with vitamin c a day (recommended daily dose on bottle). also i am taking borage, fish and flax seed oil (3 in one combination) 1000 mg three times daily, and my daily vitamin. i drink a glass of milk atleast once or twice daily and try to eat protein (steak and chicken i dont like much sea food other than fried clams), and vegges the most i can. i also am taking fenugreek extract 500 mg three times daily cause i heard it may help. i just started this program and i was hoping you could let me know if you think i am doing enough. is there anything i need to add or that i am doing wrong? thank you sooo much for your time! i really appreciate it!
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Unread postJun 25, 2008#99

I am drinking the chicken feet soup every day at lunch, and soy milk everyday at breakfast. And 1000mg borage seed oil in the morning and another 1000mg borage seed oil at night. Do you think this will be enough?

It is also affecting my period. Should I quit the borage while on my period?

And what does the collagen do?
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Unread postJun 27, 2008#100

Your programme seems good, just give it a couple of months to try out. Some people response to very simple programme, even just with soy milk. Make sure you do enough massage, though. Not really length (time) wise, but frequency. IMHO that if you do 10~15 min. in the morning and 10~15min. at night would work better than just do a whole hour at once.
I think you need to take collagen on empty stomach,
here is what I think you can try, take the pills before 20 push-ups (the easy ones, just against a table), then massage, then drink/eat your boobie food (milk or soy milk...).
Just a suggestion, hope this helps. :-)

***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 14:55

Chicken feet soup is rich in collagen/gelatin that will help us to grow breasts tissue, something like that.

About borage oil, how bad is it affecting your period? Or is just your body adjusting to it? From what I read in TW forums, they say if you have cramps, keep taking it, if not, you can skip it. I take it when on periods, too even if i dont have cramps. My period does get shorter or longer cycle once in a long while, but most of time they are pretty much on time (28 days).

If you don't feel borage oil is helping you, maybe you can try evening primrose oil, or just stop taking it, the soup may just be enough for you.
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kay

Unread postJul 03, 2008#102

thank you sooo much for your help. i am going to stick with what im doing and add in what your suggestions were. i really appreciate your time and help! how long do you think it will take to start to see results? i know its not gonna be a quick fix im just looking for something to try to go by timeline wise (even though i know everyone is different). thanks again so much for your time!
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Unread postJul 11, 2008#103

Hi, kay, sorry for the late reply.
I really can't tell you how long it would take, because the age, weight, health.... difference. If you're not too skinny (BMI 19 and above), and young (well, younger than me Big Grin

), good health (for exemple, regular on time periods, no cramps, no cold hands and feet..), I think if you give it a good two months you should see some changes.

This is just how I feel just from my personal experience on my second round (I think my "blockages" are pretty much gone after my first round I was more strick on boobie food/90% good on no no food), I always feel my breasts fuller or even measure a bit larger the next day if I go to bed earlier, do couple good massages with 1 egg @ lunch and 1 egg @ dinner, borage/omega 3-6-9 before bed/ sometime with 1 tbsp fermented rice the day before.

So, since I don't know your stats, I think may be after 2 months, you don't see much changes, you can try increacing the protein in your diet (personally I prefer natural foods, such as eggs if your health is ok with it) and maybe zinc 30mg+(I get that from enough seafoods), and see if that would help.

Hope this helps, good luck. :-)

P.S. After two months I think it's good to start keeping a boobie journal and see/feel how your body response to what you are eating and doing. Of course it will be even greater with pics for yourself. :-) I also use a "reference bra", because sometime we are growing "volume-wise", it doesn't show on measuring tape, but you can see/feel boobs fill out better.
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kay

Unread postJul 11, 2008#104

thanks again! youve been a great help to me. in case you were wondering my stats are: good health, 23 years old, 109 lbs, 5'4 height, 32B bra. ive uped my protein intake alot so im hoping that helps. thank you again!!!!
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Unread postJul 13, 2008#105

Erm, where can I get such boodie butter?
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Unread postJul 14, 2008#106

I am sorry, I don't know which boobie butter you are referring to.
If it's about the mixture, I just use the caps of borage oil, v-e, flaxseed oil, epo, and a bottle of cccoa butter oil I picked up @ walmart. usually I break one each and add in a bit cocoa butter oil.

If it's about the balm, I found it on ebay when I was searching for borage oil, it's not for massage, but I think with all the good stuff in it and it's all natural and home-made, plus good price, so I thought I'd give it try. I apply a thin layer of this balm (see link), then use the mixture above to massage. I feel it's working for me.

Here is the Ingredients: Shea Butter, Mango Butter, Emu Oil, Rosehip Seed Oil, Borage Oil, Evening Primrose Oil, Jojoba Oil, Grapeseed Oil, Soy Wax, Natural Vitamin E.

Check it out if you are interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2oz-Eczema-Balm-Cre ... dZViewItem

I do think a good massage is more important then what batter you use, but the boobie batter I use now seems to work well even if I only do about 5 min or so massage each time now (just too lazy~~~), i am getting back my boobs from the weight lose (also been drinking that extra-punch chicken feet soup.) :-)
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Stirl
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Unread postOct 11, 2008#107

Hi Fenshui, your program is amazing, I am going to try and figure out your massage so that I can add it to my routine. You mentioned that your program would work if in good health... I think I am in pretty good health but have cold hands and feet a lot and cramps with my period, will that hinder me?
Thanks Smile

Also, I can't find chicken feet would boiling chicken bones work?
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Unread postOct 12, 2008#108

Thanks, Dani. I think if you can get rid of your cold hands, feet and cramps the Chinese NBE menthod will work better and faster (because your "chi" will flow better and less "blockages")
If you use chicken bones or pork ribs to make broth is still good, the cooking time maybe a lot longer to make the broth, though. I make ox tail soups sometimes as my boobie soup (I throw in green papaya in it, tastes good), the broth turns jelly-like after chilled,too. But I have to discard the fat from the broth, it's just too much fat.
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Stirl
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Unread postOct 12, 2008#109

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it! How would I go about fixing the cold hands etc?
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Unread postOct 12, 2008#110

Just try to avoid "cold" type foods and drinks, drink the boobie teas (can be found in food and drink page) that will help "chi" flow. Or just make ginger root brown sugar tea will do. If your condition permits, a small glass of hard liquor before bed will also help. I had cold hands and feet while on my first NBE attempt, I still grew, but the progress was slow. it takes time to improve, but it's good for overall health, stay younger in the long run.

***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 14:56

It took me about 6 months or so from loose B to small D/full C. The beginning 2 months I only got better shape, not much growth in the first 4 months, the better growth came in at 5th and 6th month, then I hit a stall for a long time, so I stopped my programme in FEB, 07. I somewhat back to my routine Apr. 08, just basically boobie soup everyday with just a little massage (5 min.or so, not even everyday), currently maybe 1.5cm bigger than before. I now try to focus on my left breast (almost one cup smaller than the right one), if they even out I will update pics.
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Unread postOct 15, 2008#114

I am a small B right now and would love to be a fullC or small D.

So the only things you really did to increase your size are the massages, Borage Oil, Soy Milk, Boobie foods and most importantly chicken foot soup?
I love chicken foot soup, my mother used to make it, but I do not know how to prepare the chicken feet. Perhaps I will try.

What factors do you think attributed to your increase in size?

Thanks for your response.
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Stirl
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Unread postOct 15, 2008#115

Hi Again!
I made broth with Turkey bones, boiled them for 2 and a half hours, but after chilling it, the broth isn't jelly like...does that mean there isn't enough collagen in it? Thanks!
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Unread postOct 16, 2008#116

hey there fengshui. i just want to tell you that i've been following most of your routine for myself and it has been the only thing to work for me. it's only been 1,5 months so far and i'm already at a two inch diference! and btw i have to say that you have the absolute most perfect breasts i have ever seen. keep up the great work!
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Unread postOct 16, 2008#117

I had the best growth rate when I switched to chicken feet soup + once a week (lots) seafood, and I do think the borage oil gave me a good boost.
Making chicken feet broth is just like making chicken or any other home-made broth. Wash them good and boil them for a good 2~3 hrs. til the broth color is milk-like.
I don't really know what factors, I guess by massage them pressure points, clear the "blockages", so the energy from boobie foods can be "led" to boobs and make them bigger. Smile

P.S. on TW's NBE forums, the girls did mention the borage(seed) oil has to be made by "cold press" method, I don't know why, but I made sure I bought the right one.
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Unread postOct 16, 2008#118

It's ok,you already take gelatin packs and protein shakes, that should be enough. Green papaya pork-rib soup is also wellknown boobie soup in Taiwan, doesn't has much gelatin but more fat in it. So it's up to how much your boobies can absorb, so in Chinese NBE method to "clear the blockages" are very important.
There is no need to over-eat, or you may gain weight before you gain boobs. Just drink some boobie soups after massage will do. (so the food goes where is "hungry") Smile

The key is really "persistence", not eat a lot. Hope this helps.
P.S. I feel do a good massage morning and night even just 10~15 min each time works better than a 1 hr massage one time a day.
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Unread postOct 16, 2008#119

Thanks so much for your compliment, that's so nice of you. Smile

I am so happy my programme is working for you, you have really amazing fast growth, best luck to you!! I hope my left breast will even out with the right one then I will be done, been a looooooong journey~~~~~ haha.
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Unread postOct 16, 2008#120

Thanks! It's easy to overeat trying to get in all of the things I know are good for growth so I'll try and just be more consistent. I am still trying to figure out the massages, I think I have a pretty good idea what I am doing for the most part, the slapping part confuses me a little,lol.
I'm not feeling any pains or anything yet though.

***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 14:57

That's OK, I never had any pain or tingling, I still grew.
I wonder if you read the further explanation for the "slap & grab", here it is, hope it helps.
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how to slap the breast and grab it with the fingers at the same time. on contact with the breasts with the slap, you then move or curl your fingers in to make a grabbing action.
use left breast for exemple,use your right plam "slap" upwards from the bottom of the left breast, then curl in your fingers for "grabbing". so, it's the plam first, then fingers. as you are slapping and curling(grabbing) so fast, they are almost like happenning in the same time. for my left plam, I slap the left breast more from the left side of the left breast and upwards too. you hands are just like holding ice cream cones upside down. so, "slap" and "grab" with both hands in turns. vice versa for right breast.
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Unread postOct 16, 2008#122

Hi Fengshui,

I think the cold pressed oil means it doesn't have alcohol in it as alcohol isn't used in this method of extraction.

Thanks for posting pics, you have great shape - any tips for roundness? Mine are pecs, gap, then bottom heavy boob not one round shape.
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Unread postOct 17, 2008#123

hey fengshui! i just wanted to add that i, too, struggle with uneven breasts, but that your routine i'm following has really helped with that the most. mine is the right one tho. i massage it for twice as long, if not longer every night and that seems to really work out well. i hope for the best for you
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Unread postOct 17, 2008#124

Thanks, Louise, it's good to know why than just how, hehe. Smile

About the shape, maybe it's kinda from knuckle massage? Because I see Tigerlily has a round shape, too.
I do think Bradelis bras contribute a big part of it and some of my growth. I have been wearing Bradelis bras only for more than 2 years and do the "bra adjusting" (see fengshui's bra fitting on reference page) constantly every chance I get.
One massage I think helps filling up my upper breasts is this--
for my right breast, I put my left hand on my rightside tummy, then put my right hand on top of my left hand, then try push (hard) the tummy fat up all the way (over nipple)to my collar bone. Vice versa for left breast. I learned this on TW's forum and it helps. I do it 5~10 times (each side)a day.
I also worry about my arms get bigger from doing massages, so I always rub my arms after massages.

P.S. I think maybe a wider band bra with 2/3 or 3/4 cup design could do something similar like bradelis, choose the ones that two cups are close together type, that will change the "gap" after wearing it for 6 months or so, if not faster.
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Unread postOct 17, 2008#125

Thanks for sharing. Smile

My right arm is bigger than my left arm, LOL, so I always hesitate to work too much of it, haha. Always something with me.
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Stirl
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Unread postOct 17, 2008#126

Okay, I think I get the idea of that massage technique now, I only have to be careful not to wake up the kids when I do it,lol.
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Unread postOct 20, 2008#127

Hey Fengshui, Your piks are amazing. You have very beautiful breasts, wonderful shape and very large and so youthful looking. I have been looking up info in regards to Royal Jelly, it is so easy for me to get. Anyway I was wondering how well you liked it, do you think it was a supplement you would not have wanted to be without or was it an OK add on to you program. I have never used it or know of anyone that used it.. Do you give it alot of credit for your growth? Any input would be great. Also trying some of your massages and pressure points the best I can anyway, I am afraid I am not very good at it and hard to understand sometimes exactly what to do. But anyway you look so beautiful and am very happy you had such success. Take Care
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Unread postOct 20, 2008#128

Ok I bought a bra like you suggest and the style is great! I'm falling out of it! It's really lazyness with me, I should wear 30 band but I tend to wear 32 band non-wired for comfort...no wonder they're going East and West! I think I need to finish with Brava before I can get the maximum benefit from this as I don't think I'll get the new bra on in the morning at the moment, give me another 6 months or so.

Any luck with the fatty arms? I have this too. Actually your arms look fine in the pics, were they bigger before?
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Unread postOct 21, 2008#129

Thank you for your compliments!! Smile

NBE really works!!
I gave royal jelly a try after I hit a stall for a long time, it did give me a bit fullness and growth, I didn't take it long enough to root for it, because I am just not an pill-popping person. Plus I didn't take the amount that was recommended on TW forum (they recommended 4000mg a day, the bottle direction--500mg/cap 1~3 daily, I was taking 2000 mg a day, no guts to really go over). If you are not allergic too bee products, it's a great supplement to add, because I have read good growth rates on royal jelly, lots of girls responded to it fast, so it's worth a try.
Note, I was only on food and massage, so I don't know if it's ok to mix herbs and royal jelly, please get some opinions from the knowledgeable girls on the forum to make sure if it's ok to mix royal jelly and herbs or if 4000mg is a safe amount.
P.S. Maybe you can try out 2000 mg and see how it goes, there were some girls felt 2000mg was working for them.
I was 38 when I tried it, maybe it's not royal jelly to blame that I didn't get a fast boost. Haha.
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Unread postOct 21, 2008#130

Yeah, none-wired bras are way more comfortable, but they are bad for shapes. Because lots of girls are using shaping bras for NBE in Taiwan and it really works. I always wear the band a bit tight (with deeper cups) so it can hold the shape of breasts and have them "trained" and grow. I don't know if it's good to wear tight band wired bra with brava, but if it doesn't bother with brava growth, it will help and pay off if you give it time, you do need to keep doing the "bra fitting" every chance you get, though. When used to the wired bras, they are not that bad. Smile

P.S. I don't wear bra to bed.
My arms are not super big, but bigger than average girls, so I don't look so "delicate" haha, and my big/muscle arm make me look a bit chubby, they are a bit smaller after I lose weight, but still big. XD

***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 14:59

Louise1982
Here is some info on Royal Jelly:

http://www.herbalextractsplus.com/royal-jelly.cfm

They recommend 1200mg 1-2x daily so not more than 2400mg.

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After your advice about bras I got a 30DD that I can wear for work (my massive morning swelling just pokes out the top and then throughout the day the swelling reduces until it fits normally) and a 28E out of interest. The 28E fits quite well and I see what you mean about better shape with a tight band, it feels a bit restricting when I first put it on but it's ok and it does 'keep everything together'! It's very exciting to get an E cup even though the cup is similar to a 34C but on a small band. I totally agree about the arms - just not delicate, I realy want to be tiny and delicate with nice boobs but think I've got a bit more work to do.

Just wanted to ask - the royal jelly you took, was it tablets or capsules? As far as you know should it be fresh liquid or dried powder?
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Thanks Louise!! Looks like royal jelly is really good stuff, I also read the royal jelly post from Chocogirl on reference page, maybe I will try it a again soon. I am now on Maca for booty, been over a month, no luck yet, maybe due to lack of exercise?! I want to give it more time, really want some booty to go with my boobs, haha.

The royal jelly I used was softgel capsule, really cheap, here is the link, they have international flat rate shipping I think.
http://www.puritansale.com/bee-products ... els-007140
I guess it's stablized liquid/jelly.

And while on my weight lose, I took bee pollen (1 tab before bed)because I read on TW forum there was one lady said it will help to keep the boobs on weight lose, I did get to keep my boobs plus a bit more, maybe it helped.

http://www.puritansale.com/bee-products ... ets-004390

I will update if any changes on boobies or booties. Smile

P.S. I don't know why, I haven't been able to find anything like 32 DD/E/F or any smaller band anywhere to try on, I guess there are more skinny girls with big boobs in UK (not that I am skinny with big boobs, hehe) Smile

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Unread postOct 26, 2008#134

Bee pollen is also in WU - I think I will give these bees a go!

The bras I get in small band big cups are from Freya - it's a designer brand so should be available internationally. Also, have you looked in the 'large cups' or 'fuller bust' section? I always thought I'm so small so I never looked there but that is where these sizes are. Freya bras are cupsizes D-G only but they have an amazing range of band sizes. After wearing the 28E for even a few minutes I swear my boobs are a nicer shape (like yours!).
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Unread postNov 01, 2008#135

Hi Fengshui

Thank you for posting your pics, you've got an amazing shapes, you are my inspiration.

I've been away from the forum for quite sometimes, I only grew very little in these 6 months journey, I have set my new goal after I saw your pics, I'm praying to have a pair of boobs just like yours by the end of next year and ready for my wedding, keeping my fingers so crossed my wish will come true.
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Unread postNov 02, 2008#136

Thanks, babe.
I know sometimes it gets really hard, but it's doable. I am sure you can make it happen. If you are skinny, it may take a bit longer, just stick with your plan, you will succeed before you know it. You will be the most beautiful bride in the world!!! Smile

To Louise,
hey, girl, I kept forgetting to mention, don't know if you had tried the smaller band with front clips bras? those really give deep (even better) cleavage. Smile

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amy

Unread postJan 15, 2009#137

i am looking for tremella and i only found it in pill form?
where do you get yours?
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Unread postJan 19, 2009#138

Hi, sorry for the late reply, I bought (white)tremella (dried, packed in bag) at Asain supermarkets, it's a very common item also very cheap, just takes long time to cook it.
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Unread postJan 19, 2009#139

is tremella good for you?
I found it inline in pill form and read fermented foods are good for yeast problems also.

u r my inspiration on the board and im going to try your program full throttle as of tomorrow.

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Unread postJan 20, 2009#140

Yes, tremella is great for skin for sure, it's well-known in TW. I have seen quite a few older ladies with tight and young-looking face all eat tremella reguarly. (have read some TW girls got good results on tremella for NBE also)
Don't know much about fermented foods and yeast problems, but form my own experience, fermented rice did help my NBE, if you read Chinese, you can google these two female TCM doctors (see link), they both recommend fermented rice for NBE. (fermented rice is very popular for breast-feeding moms to produce milk in TW)

http://www.join-us.idv.tw/

Hope this helps, good luck on your NBE. Smile

***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 15:02

Hi Fengshui, I have been searching for Acu-Treat Electro Accupunture as part of breast massage. It is an electronic device that sends electric waves I guess. My chiropractor uses it on my sinus cavities across my cheek bones, just a hand held device that has a small needle in it and sends electic shocks. Anyway wondering if it would help stimulat growth for breasts. If you used it on the pressure points I was wondering it it would help. I found them on sale on the net, anywhere from $79 to $200. Just wondering what your thoughts are on this.
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Unread postJan 22, 2009#142

hi feng shui,is their any substitite for soya milk/milk? like a green drink or something?
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Unread postJan 22, 2009#143

I've never tried any device or read anybody using that kind of device, so I am not sure. If your chiropractor uses it on you and it helps with your problem, I don't see why not trying it with NBE. (it sounds like it could hurt a bit???)
Still, boobie foods play a big part in TCM(traditional Chinese Medicine) NBE programme, and boobie massages are also needed. Hope this helps. Smile

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Unread postJan 22, 2009#144

Maybe you can check the food and drink recipes page, there are some boobie teas, or check fullness' programme (see link).
http://www.network54.com/Forum/482052/t ... age%20full
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Unread postJan 24, 2009#145

I want to try fermented rice but can never find it at my local asian market. I can't even ask the people there where I could find it because they don't speak english and I don't know how to say it in chinese. Can you tell me how to say fermented rice in mandarin or cantonese?
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Unread postJan 24, 2009#146

Hi, you can check this link, that's what fermented rice looks like,
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q ... ages&gbv=2

You can print this page (see link) out and show it to Asain market people see if they sell something like that. (this is the brand I buy, but there are different brands, some with herbs, all can use for NBE)

http://www.koeyufoods.com/index.asp?ver ... &newsid=14

Hope this helps. Smile

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Unread postJan 27, 2009#147

Hi Fengshui, still amazed at your progress and look forward to updated piks. I was wondering if you could post the links to the TW forum. There is a way to have the computor translate, but I have to find it yet. anyway thanks if you can post links to TW forum.
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Unread postJan 27, 2009#148
Thanks, Snowflake, I am not really doing the routine right now, but still on maintance (quick massages when shower) and boobie soup and drink. I am quite happy with my current size, wouldn't mind bigger, though. If I get some more growth from this simple fix, will update pics. Smile

Here are some TW links:
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_C ... 8_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_C ... 8_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/MsgL/2_C ... 8_1_1.html
http://www.fashionguide.com.tw/CateL/2_ ... D_218.html

http://www.urcosme.com/boards/board2-sn ... htm#136148

You can try this translation website, I haven't tried it, don't know if it's good. (P.S. In TW we use Chinese-trad, not Chinese-simp)
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
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Unread postJan 28, 2009#149

Hi, fengshui. You've been a great help to me. I've gone from a B to a C cup, and hopefully I'll reach a D eventually! Thanks so much for all the wonderful information you've provided. It's changed my life!

I was wondering if there were any teas that I can drink, besides herb teas for growth, that are safe for NBE? I know green tea and black tea have a negative effect, but I love drinking tea and would really like to have a cup every now and then. I can't take the NBE herb teas yet because I consider myself too young to take herbs. So are there any harmless teas that I can drink?
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Unread postJan 28, 2009#150
Hi Fengshui!

I have a lot of Asian markets around me and bought chicken feet but I wasn't able to find green papaya powder (to make tea). Do you know if it goes my a different name? I saw an online site that sells green papaya at 28 bucks a pound but that sounds like a rip off to me. I love reading your thread. It is very inspirational to me. I have only had chicken feet soup for about a week and I see feel the fullness although it doesn't read it on the measuring tape yet.

***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 15:04

Hi Egg! Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/i ... 791824.htm

http://www.gardenofwisdom.com/catalog/i ... 791812.htm

If can try this tea receipe from "fullness", the ingredients are not anything strong, kids can drink it, too. Those are widely used for Chinese soups.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/482052/t ... age%20full

And black tea is fine for NBE, just wait couple of hours if you are taking herbs or any TCM tonic.

No need to get paranoid, you can still enjoy green tea once in a while. Or if you like ginger tea, that's helpful for NBE. There are some teas on Food and drink receipe page, maybe you can find something you like. Hope you get to D soon. Smile

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Unread postJan 29, 2009#154

Thanks CoCo for the links!! Is that what you are looking for, Egg?
I have never seen green papaya powder at Asain markets, either, and green papaya fruit is around $0.69~$1.29/lb. depends on season. You can add green papaya to your chicken feet soup, tastes good.
Glad my programme page is helpful to you, best luck on your NBE. Smile

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Unread postJan 30, 2009#155

Oh good, I'm so glad that black tea is okay, especially since it's my favorite! I'll try to get decaffeinated varieties. Thanks for the recipe and tips!
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Unread postFeb 08, 2009#156

hi fengshui! im about to start with an nbe program and stumbled upon yours. Right now the only thing I have is soy milk that I plan to mix with green papaya powder and I think I asked u in a separate post about where to buy sesame seed powder coz I wanna mix that in my smoothie too. Anyway, I have a few questions about your program:

-Where do u buy borage oil? And what do u do with it? Do you take it as a capsule? If so, how many mg a day?

-What do you mean by hot soya? Just soy milk that u heat?

-Where do u buy fermented rice? Do you just mix it with hot soy milk?

-And the chicken feet broth, do u make it everyday? Or do u make a batch then just heat it up when u eat it? I don't cook at all so I don't even know how to make broth. How many pieces of chicken feet do u use with how much water?

Sorry my questions are really silly. Hope u don't mind me asking. Thanks! Smile

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Unread postFeb 09, 2009#157

Hi, I bought my borage oil on line (see link), pretty good deal. I took 1000mg softgel, 3 a day with meal the first month, 2 a day the second month, 1 a day the 3rd month. I also used it for massage.
http://www.puritansale.com/womens-vitam ... els-007732

I only drink hot soy milk, for convenience, I use powder soy milk packs, just mix with hot water or my hot coffee as creamer.

I buy fermented rice at asain market, I mix it with soy milk, sometimes I eat it as is. (usually 1 or 2 tbsp. at a time)

I always make chicken feet broth a batch (usually around a week's worth) then heat it up daily. Here is the link for how to make chicken feet broth, you can use more water for it to boil down.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/498380/t ... +FEET+SOUP
or this one
http://www.network54.com/Forum/498380/t ... +Feet+Soup

Glad I can help, good luck with your NBE project!! Smile

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Unread postFeb 09, 2009#158

hi fengshui..do u eat sugar and how much do you smoke?your diet seems so diciplined as far a carbs and sugar.also did you think you were balanced hormonally previous to starting ?I have some androgen symptoms with fine facial hair on sides of my face starting 6 months ago and i think estrogen dominance.do you think vitex and your program would interfere together?also do u think fish soup has quicker results due to hitomi's experience?
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Unread postFeb 11, 2009#159

I do consume sugar, not much, but don't try to avoid it, just don't care for sweets too much. Did read it somewhere says too much sugar is not good for NBE, maybe you can search for that. I do smoke a lot, pretty sure smoking and being a night person related to my slow growth. I smoke about 1.5 packs a day.
Not sure if I was hormonally balanced or not, would guess I was, didn't have any symptoms.
Don't think vitex and my program would interfere with each other, it's just food and massage, I think it would be a plus to any NBE programme.
Chicken feet soup and green papaya seabass soup should work the same, feet soup just gives you more varieties because you can use the broth to make any soup you like, so you don't get tired of it. You can just drink them in rotation.
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Unread postFeb 12, 2009#160
You mention about fermented rice on your program, just a quick question about preparing it, Do you know if sweet rice or regular rice is use? Or does it matter?

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***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 15:06

Hey fengshui, how are you?!
Question, do you think I'll do fine without soy or do you think thats important for NBE? I asked you this before I Think but can't find the answer when I search so asking again incase.. also, I'll be eating the following foods:

Fermented rice, eggs, broccoli, carrots, wild yams, chicken feet soup, bread/rice, white tea, coconut oil, apple cider vinegar, collard greens, banana, yogurt, cheese, white seabass, goji berries, prunes,

Are there any cold foods in this list? And do you think this list is good enough for NBE? Since I will not be taking borage oil, only food and massages.
The main food dish will be chicken feet soup. The only boob dish u ate was also chicken feet soup and nothing else right? So the other meals were regular?

edit: Was soy powde+milk the most common soy you used?
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Do you read Chinese? Here are couple articles on how to make
fermented rice, you need to use "sticky rice", not sure if it's called sweet rice.

http://blog.udn.com/allthingsconsidered ... DESC&pno=1&

http://blog.udn.com/ef0936/2300347

Hi, I am doing great, thanks for asking.
I believe NBE can work without soy, youe list looks good, just stick with your programme, you will gain boobs I am sure.
I would suggest you switching the white tea to black tea if you want to drink it daily, but don't get paranoid, ok? Having "no no foods" occasionally is no problem, making a programme easy enough for you to stick with will bring you to success closer, otherwise you might get frustrated and give up and think NBE would not work for you.
Yes, my main boobie dish is the feet soup ( daily and throw in green papaya when reheating over 50% of the time) and seafood once a week. And besides the soup, I just eat regular meals (just try avoiding no no food if I can)

The soy milk I use is just soy powder packs mix with hot water or coffee, does not contain milk, I basically don't drink (cow)milk.
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Unread postFeb 14, 2009#164

Thanks Fengshui, just out of curiosity, how come you don't drink cow milk?
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Unread postFeb 15, 2009#165

I don't read Chinese, but I google it and found some recipes online, good thing you mention the sticky rice tho cause they didn't mention that. Anyways I've got some in the pantry so will try it and see how it works. Will let you know, thanks lotts!!

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Unread postFeb 15, 2009#166

You are welcome. Smile

I have read some articles about milk is not good human food, maybe you can google it see what you think. I never really like milk anyway. Smile

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Unread postFeb 15, 2009#167

I think "sticky rice" is called glutinous rice in stores.
Hope you can share the receipe on "food and drink" page. Smile

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***Eve M*** · 25-01-2022, 15:08

dprincess
fengshui:

thanks so much for answering my questions. I have a few more, I hope u dont mind Smile

-what's a good brand for soy milk powder? Do u get it in an asian market? or is it available in regular groceries?

-what type of massage do u do? and how do u use a heating pad?

-also, what batter do u use for massaging? do u just use the borage oil?

thanks again soo much for sharing

Hi, I don't think the brand would matter, I tried all brands I could find in Asain supermarkets then stick with this one (see link if you are interested)cause I like the taste and it's not too sweet. It only costs me around $3.50/bag in stores (so you know Big Grin

)

The massage I do you can read it here,
http://www.network54.com/Forum/486111/t ... of+MASSAGE

I only used heating pad for a while, don't remember if it helped or not. You can put it on breasts after massage on med~low for 15~20 min.

I used baby oil from the beginning, it worked well. I also tried mixing borage oil with some stuff, here's my reply before, I re-post again.

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about the mixture, I just use the caps of borage oil, v-e, flaxseed oil, epo, and a bottle of cccoa butter oil I picked up @ walmart. usually I break one of each and add in a bit cocoa butter oil.
I do think a good massage is more important then what batter you use.
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Hope this helps. Smile

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Unread postFeb 23, 2009#170

Hey Fengshui, you know I think you growth has been amazing and so inspirational,, but I was just wondering your opinions about PM are? Have you concidered finishing off your routine with PM, if not why? And also what is the major opinion of PM on the TW Forum? It seems like a valuable herb for NBE to me, I have tried it and as soon as I get rid of some winter weight gain, intend to use it again along with your massages, which I have been doing regularly and also happy with the results I am seeing. Would really appreciate you input about PM. Hope all is well with you, take care.

I am very glad my programme can do some help. Did get some PM on Ebay due to Beth's success but never have the guts to take it because not sure if it's okay for smokers (I smoke a lot), and never use FG because worry about the smell (I already smell like cigarettes, haha). But PM does seem to work on lots of girls here, it's worth a try, I think.

PM doesn't seem to be popular in TW (from what I have read), most popular methods are foods, Chinese tonics, EPO, borage oil or royal jelly, all above methods require massages. There is this breast cream seems to work very well with massage but I can't find it in US, it's called "Leini Dahl DNA breast cream", it's cheap, around $7~9 a jar. There are few girls report bad side effects, though, such as fine chest hair growth, messed up periods, headachs,nausea, acne...Overall, most of girls got growth from it. Personally, I am not planning trying it.

If the massages are helping you, you can try eating some boobie foods @ lunch, that way you shouldn't get weight gain from it.
Then try the herbs you want after losing weight.
Hope this helps. Smile

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