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<p>So after growing an inch from PM, Aguaje, Fennel and massage with my herb infused oil I am going to take a break from Fennel since all online research suggests it should not be taken in large amounts or for large periods of time without a break basically due to its effect on the nervous system, I am planning on taking a month or 2 break from fennel but keeping up on my PM and Aguaje and am wanting to add a third herb in replacement I was taking the fennel moreso for its galactagogue effect increasing prolactin etc any suggestions what to add with my PM and Aguaje? I cannot take anything that has possible mild sedative effects such as motherwort unfortunately, TIA! </p>

<p>So Im keeping up with my program for more curves with supplements, herbs, my infused oil massages etc and&nbsp;will soon be running out of my Viva Korea volufiline cream I use after my FSO mask in the mornings&nbsp;and will not be repurchasing it as it is $200 per jar here (I managed to get some for $40 once out of pure luck) and am looking into other korean/Japanese creams with volufiline one being Cleosis W shape breast cream with pueraria and volufiline among other ingredients but am curious about others recommendations? TIA</p>

<p>Hey everyone! So Im thinking of getting me some Zhi Mu to add to the list of ingredients I have in my herbal oil infusion recipe(as used by Genetix enhancement oil) however I am confused whether tincture or the powder? The tincture is alcohol based and from what I have read alcohol and oil are polar opposite molecules so they wont mix and will seperate.</p><p>Any advice on which to choose?&nbsp; <img src="https://www.breastnexus.com/images/smilies/shy.gif" data-sceditor-emoticon="" alt="" title=""> </p>

<p>Hi everyone first off I am so excited to finally join and be a part of the forums I have so long followed and found information from!</p><p>Alil about me, I am a post operative transwoman who started fulltime transition at the age of 14 and full HRT at the age of 16 my current age is 24, I am 5'7 weighing at 68kg(not sure what that is in lbs sorry) I got implants quite some years back and I love them before stats was a full A cup as I was very skinny and after I was a 34DD/32E now whilst I loved the look I always preferred the look of implants covered with plenty breast tissue and have always had a big interest in herbs and the amazing things they can all offer which is why I started getting into researching natural ways I could make my boobs even bigger and more covered more natural.</p><p>Before getting implants I would noogle quite a bit many hours a day which eventually helped me gain a more fuller A cup and eventually allowing me to get what would have been too big of a size of implant if I hadn't noogled.</p><p>Anyways being that I had gender reassignment surgery I got the extra boob growth that so many girls go on about afterwards due to no longer having the testosterone making organs and so I was really happy and am nearing 2 years post op in as little as a week or so.</p><p>A few months back I decided I wanted to gain weight I wanted more curves and a bigger butt and IF I could gain more breast than that would be a plus!</p><p>Since then I started a consistent program of the following and am overflowing my&nbsp;DD cups even on the loosest band! Plus gained more butt and curves <img src="https://www.breastnexus.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" data-sceditor-emoticon="" alt="" title=""> I also rarely wear a bra tbh as I need new ones and honestly prefer the feeling of letting them be free lol Anyways I am so excited to say the least and wanted to share if it peaks anyone's interest maybe it will work for them, my program is the following:</p><p><br></p><p>Personal Program<br>Morning:<br>2x 100mcg Vitamin B12<br>2x 1000IU Vitamin D<br>3x 600mg Fennel Capsules<br>Massage with Flaxseed oil 1 capsule per breast, cling wrap each breast and leave on for 1 to 2 hours, wash off (Major swelling afterwards)<br>Massage with volufiline breast cream (Korean brand Viva Korea) to capitalize on swelling from Flaxseed oil<br><br>Night:<br>3x 1000mg Flaxseed Oil capsules<br>3x 500mg Aguaje Capsules (Wanted to try Maca so bad but due to my excess iron blood disorder and the high iron content in Maca root I had to steer clear of it)<br>1x 300mg Pueraria Mirifica Capsule<br>Massage with herbal infused oil before bed with fat brushing from sides of back and armpits + rotations<br></p><p><br></p><p>My herbal oil infusion consists of 6x 400mg PM capsules, 4x 500mg Aguaje capsules, 5x 600mg Fennel capsules(I empty them all into a bottle), around 10 drops of lavender ESO,&nbsp; 5 drops of a cinnamon, clove and orange ESO blend, 5 drops of tea tree ESO, 2 full dropper vials of Watermelon seed oil(being one of the highest penetrating oils out there and very nourishing), then filled to the brim with sunflower oil, I then shake a couple times a day leaving it on a window seal for about 2 - 3 weeks shaking every day, I am considering for the next batch getting 100% volufiline since its oil soluble and possibly mangosteen extract adding both to the list of ingredients in my infusion since both are touted to affect lipid proliferation in the applied areas <img src="https://www.breastnexus.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" data-sceditor-emoticon="" alt="" title=""> <img src="https://www.breastnexus.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" data-sceditor-emoticon="" alt="" title=""> I use this oil on both breasts and the butt and itself plus my supplements have made changes faster than I expected!<br></p><p><br></p><p>I also have Motherwort extract on its way for its benefits not only for breast enhancement.</p><p><br>I will be updating with my progress</p><p><br></p><p>PSS. I should mention that I am also on proper HRT being 200mg bio identical estrogen pellets implanted in my abdomen once a year and 200mg bio identical progesterone capsules once twice a day which obviously would also be helping. Before anyone says it estrogen dominance is just a mostly normal thing for a post operative trans woman since we cant produce T anymore so it is just something that is what it is and I certainly do not want to introduce any testosterone via gel etc for many reasons including it being contradicting to my dysphoria, thank you <img src="https://www.breastnexus.com/images/smilies/wink.gif" data-sceditor-emoticon="" alt="" title=""> <br></p>

<p>Hi, I'm a little bit overwhelmed by all the information on this site. Could somebody help me out? I'm a little bit confused about the different things I read on phytoestrogenic herbs. Do I understand it well that they are not good for everyone who wants to enlarge their breasts?&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>I have very low body weight and I'm now a 75B (I think that will be a 34B in American size) and I'd like to have a 34C cup. I read somewhere that when you are top heavy you have to focus on the phytoestrogenic herbs and when bottom heavy on PC. I'm neither of those. :-) So where do I begin?&nbsp;</p>

Ok. I have joined this forum for 10 years. I used to take a little bit of herbs but my butt grew so i didnt take any herbs anymore, anything that is estrogenic will cause fat go to my butt. I believe pumping will give result because i used noogle berry for a short amount of time and my boobs already get fuller, but i dont want to grow breast now cuz im feel im ok with it. Im currently using an progesterone gel i bought from nearby drugstore. I just saw it in my nearby drugstore and it is not expensive so i buy it because i read sb said here that when she takes progesterone cream, she lost fat in her butt faster. My purpose now is losing fat in my butt. Im taking herbs that boost testerone, and when i take it, after i ate, fat goes to my belly more than my butt. I just wonder that this progestogel gives me headache even if i apply a dime size, i already feel tense in my head. If i take more than dime size, the headache increased. The dosage it said is 2.5g gel 1-2 times per day . If i take 2.5g, the headache is uncomfortable. I search progesterone cream side effect and it includes headache. Maybe my gel is synthetic progesterone. Because it seems no women here mentioned about headache while using PM ,maybe because their PM is natural progesterone. I dont know if i should use this tube anymore . If i use it, i will just use a dime size because if using the right dosage 2.5g, i cant stand the headache. I dont seem to have hormone imbalance. Sometime i can have breast swelling before period but recently my breasts dont swell much before period. My tube is called progestogel 1%, it contains 1g of progesterone in a 80g tube made in belgium. I attached a pic here but i dont know if it shows. I dont know if it is dangerous if i use this cream.

<p>Hi everyone,</p><p><br></p><p>I’m halfway through my first cycle with PM, PC, and MSM, so far so good. I went off of birth control this month so I could see how these herbs would affect me. But honestly, I don’t think I can keep going using condoms during sex, so I’m trying to see what my options are for contraception and pm/herbs/general nbe techniques.</p><p><br></p><p>Would a progestin only pill interact with pm? What about an iud or a nuva ring? Should I cycle my herbs or use them straight through the month if I take a progestin only pill?</p><p><br></p><p>Any advice would be SO appreciated, I’m really struggling not knowing what to do&nbsp;</p>

<p>I was wondering if Nettle would be helpful for NBE or not. It's supposed to be a dht blocker, but I've also read that it is an aromatase inhibitor? Has anyone used it and experienced any benefits?</p>

<p>My breasts respond real well to fenugreek. (Unfortunately my ass stomach and hips do also.) they swell up every time I take them (before deflating down a little). I wanted to start a pill with my subliminal regimine to help my body along. Though I know fenugreek works great, would it be more beneficial if I bought a prenatal multi with shake instead since it has a bunch of other thing in it.</p>

Fenugreek and the Thyroid

Hi, this is my first post, I’m Izzy. I’ve been lurking a while and haven’t found a discussion on the thyroid-interfering effects of fenugreek.
I know the lovely TibetanPrincess has Hashimoto’s thyroiditis and had a negative experience with NBE herbs. I also have Hashimoto’s, so the thyroid is of personal interest to me.

However, even if you don’t have thyroid issues, this is relevant. Women are much more prone to thyroid issues than men. The thyroid affects every part of the body and can definitely interfere with one’s NBE journey if levels are amiss. Fenugreek is a commonly used NBE herb.
This post is separated into
-Quick primer on thyroid hormones
-Fenugreek’s effect on thyroid hormones, study
-Conclusion

Quick primer on thyroid hormones for those who need it:
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There are two thyroid hormones, thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3).

T4 is a pro-hormone, meaning it’s a precursor to another hormone. The body processes T4 into T3.

T4 is a much weaker thyroid hormone than T3.
T4 can be converted to T3 in the thyroid (intrathyroidal conversion) or in other organs such as the liver, kidneys, and muscles (peripheral conversion). 80% of T4 → T3 conversion is peripheral.
Thyroid hormones (TH) can either be bound, by thyroxine-binding proteins, or free in the blood (free TH). Free TH is the active form, it can travel through the blood, around the body, and into cells.
Ordinarily, 99.97 percent of thyroid hormone is bound, whilst 0.03% is free and active.
Certain chemicals can regulate amounts of thyroxine-binding proteins, altering your ratio of bound and free TH.
Estrogen increases thyroxine-binding proteins. Testosterone, on the other hand, decreases thyroxine-binding proteins. Simply put, thyroxine-binding proteins up↑ = free TH down↓. Thyroxine-binding proteins down↓ = free TH up↑.
Your total thyroid hormone still remains the same.
TSH – Thyroid stimulating hormone, TSH, tells your body to produce more thyroid hormones.

If you are hypothyroid, your doctor has most likely put you on a synthetic form of T4, expecting your body to convert enough of it to T3. To be healthy, you need appropriate levels of both T4 and T3.
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Fenugreek
Study:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1899905108
PANDA, S., TAHILIANI, P. and KAR, A., 1999. INHIBITION OF TRIIODOTHYRONINE PRODUCTION BY FENUGREEK SEED EXTRACT IN MICE AND RATS. Pharmacological Research, 40(5), pp.405-409.
Relevant extracts and graph:
“From the results, it is evident that fenugreek seed extract decreases serum T3 concentration both in mice and rats. The significant decrease in serum T3 concentration following the administration of fenugreek seed extract indicates that T3 synthesis is inhibited by the plant extract.
It therefore appears that, in the present study, decreased serum T3 concentrations following the seed extract administration may be the result of the inhibition in peripheral conversion of T4 to T3 in extrathyroidal tissues. This is further evidenced by a decreased T3:T4 ratio in treated mice and rats. Of course the possibility that fenugreek seed extract also decreases intrathyroidal conversion of T4 to T3 cannot be ruled out. Interestingly T4 concentration was found to be more in treated animals. This is understandable, as it is known that T4 acts as a prohormone or substrate for T3 formation and obviously its availability in circulation is expected to be more when T4to T3 conversion becomes less.
Graph:
https://imgur.com/a/b0kSF5G